Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
What do you mean?
"nd wave of vaccines isn't looking good
I know it’s bullshit - a week of remote learning and everyone is safe at Xmas.As it is I now can’t see any family over Christmas so here’s to being alone on the day.
Not sure its a huge issue. Better to have decent quality control than push on with vaccines that may not work or have side effects, or as in the case of the UoQ one have a knock on effect in public health due to triggering HIV false positives. We're way ahead of where we were expecting to be in terms of vaccines, to expect every vaccine in development to fly through testing with no issues isn't realistic.The vaccines that are meant to be coming in behind the current crop like GSK and the UoQ ones are either being delayed or cancelled
Not sure its a huge issue. Better to have decent quality control than push on with vaccines that may not work or have side effects, or as in the case of the UoQ one have a knock on effect in public health due to triggering HIV false positives. We're way ahead of where we were expecting to be in terms of vaccines, to expect every vaccine in development to fly through testing with no issues isn't realistic.
In the case of the UoQ vaccine it won't actually mean there is less doses in circulation as their manufacturer, CSL, will now produce 20 million doses of the Astra vaccine for use in Australia. And GSK are still expecting to be ready to manufacture in 2021.
Yeah makes me more confident of the ones that workNot sure its a huge issue. Better to have decent quality control than push on with vaccines that may not work or have side effects, or as in the case of the UoQ one have a knock on effect in public health due to triggering HIV false positives. We're way ahead of where we were expecting to be in terms of vaccines, to expect every vaccine in development to fly through testing with no issues isn't realistic.
In the case of the UoQ vaccine it won't actually mean there is less doses in circulation as their manufacturer, CSL, will now produce 20 million doses of the Astra vaccine for use in Australia. And GSK are still expecting to be ready to manufacture in 2021.
As soon as London were placed into tier 2 after lockdown you could tell it was all for MP's self interest. Now they are putting special measures in place to prevent London going into tier 3 when they couldn't be arsed with other areas. All this government cares about is London and not the north.
I know it’s bullshit - a week of remote learning and everyone is safe at Xmas.
the admissions decrease is starting to flatten and in some places sharply increase
It has never dropped below 1k a day, it hit a low point on 28th November and has been on its way back up since i think. It's just completely unsustainable
Might’ve mentioned previously, I keep an eye on hospital Covid figures if you’re interested Fernando (DOD and others). It’s only England though. If you scan down to daily admissions (which will have latest date on - currently yesterday 10 Dec) and then on spreadsheet down to No 6 (Total patients) it has breakdown of the total currently in hospital with Covid in each of the regions
Statistics » COVID-19 Hospital Activity
A number of data collections have been implemented to support incident management. The collections were activated at short notice and the content of the collections has evolved as the incident has developed. The data collected is classified as management information. It has been collected on a...www.england.nhs.uk
Numbers have crept up a little this week but been steady around 13k-14k for a while.
Might’ve mentioned previously, I keep an eye on hospital Covid figures if you’re interested Fernando (DOD and others). It’s only England though. If you scan down to daily admissions (which will have latest date on - currently yesterday 10 Dec) and then on spreadsheet down to No 6 (Total patients) it has breakdown of the total currently in hospital with Covid in each of the regions
Statistics » COVID-19 Hospital Activity
A number of data collections have been implemented to support incident management. The collections were activated at short notice and the content of the collections has evolved as the incident has developed. The data collected is classified as management information. It has been collected on a...www.england.nhs.uk
Numbers have crept up a little this week but been steady around 13k-14k for a while.
21,672 cases today, 424 deaths.
17.7% increase week on week case wise. We're not far off the figures being posted when we went into lockdown. Test rates up 7.3% but the growth in positives outstrips that. The R rate now seems to have crept up to 0.9 - 1. I wonder what state we will be in once the Xmas festivities get under way. I also wonder what sort of carnage January could bring.
And death for about 20kJanuary is another lockdown or at least tier 3 for most
That one is called a White RussianCovid: Trials to test combination of Oxford and Sputnik vaccines - this is why we need as many different vaccines as possible
Is there an article?The app really didn't do much did it
Seen these types of stats before wingy. Frightening. To be fair some will be work related (ie can’t afford to self isolate) but they’ll be plenty of others that won’t be. I just hope they at least steered clear of elderly and higher riskSurprised to hear that Only 10% isolate after coming into contact with infectious person and 20% of those infected.
Thought we'd been data or Gov't statement's suggesting around 60% compliance.
Even allowing for that extrapolation we've hit over 100k per day in both wave's.We're much worse off here than the first wave and also seemingly in comparison to the UK.
Putting our numbers into context (UK population 7 times bigger) would have us with daily deaths well over a 1000 and new infections around the 35-45000 mark.
Main difference in circumstances from first wave (weather aside) are non-essential shops still open (although not busy) and schools for the under 14s still open.
We're much worse off here than the first wave and also seemingly in comparison to the UK.
Putting our numbers into context (UK population 7 times bigger) would have us with daily deaths well over a 1000 and new infections around the 35-45000 mark.
Main difference in circumstances from first wave (weather aside) are non-essential shops still open (although not busy) and schools for the under 14s still open.
Health care at capacity. Good medical staff but poor facilities which is why curfews, masks etc came in so much earlier here (and other East European countries). But have same problem that focus is on COVID and other serious health conditions are not able to get the attention they need due to lack of beds etc. What they have done here is give over whole hospitals to COVID rather than having wards etc. in multiple hospitals.Even allowing for that extrapolation we've hit over 100k per day in both wave's.
Luckily the novel treatments appear to have reduced mortality by over a third, maybe up to 50%
Edit:- how is the health provision coping over there?
My mum pretty much continuing as normal shes 79 with copd regularly getting the bus into town to see friend and go shopping. Blows my mindSeen these types of stats before wingy. Frightening. To be fair some will be work related (ie can’t afford to self isolate) but they’ll be plenty of others that won’t be. I just hope they at least steered clear of elderly and higher risk
It’s why the track and trace stuff is pretty futile ! I know the government has had a fair few f*ck ups during this (as have most nations) but there has got to be an large element of personal responsibility as well.
hopefully reduction in isolation time will increase compliance
My Old Man’s not dissimilar.My mum pretty much continuing as normal shes 79 with copd regularly getting the bus into town to see friend and go shopping. Blows my mind
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