The Taming of the Flu?
The Taming of the Flu?
First jab administered in UHCW! Can we go to the pub now? Nice bit of history for Cov.
Just imagine the emotions going around UHCW at the moment, patients and staff, and for the families of the people in there.
To have that tangible hope of belief that their loved ones will soon be administered this vaccine must be an amazing feeling.
Hats off to all involved and today is a metaphorical shot in the arm for all of us.
You'd hope so jhfc,but the option was there for the last ht,it was advised but passed up.So.....5 weeks since schools went back after HT and infection rates still dropping in most parts of the country......with notable exceptions where high level of household & social mixing occuring.....
....some of us said its not all about the schools & they were right to keep them open!
Hopefully, as a belt & braces approach, they'll coordinate the inevitable 3rd national lockdown to roll into the February HT.
You'd hope so jhfc,but the option was there for the last ht,it was advised but passed up.
Retrospectively the current reduction as acknowledged today by the pm was due to the November lockdown .
Why was it that October wasn't deemed the appropriate moment to introduce as advised?
Don't get me wrong Wingy mate....I'm not defending the twats in charge.....just having a little friendly poke at some of the posters on here who were campaigning for the schools to be closed as they were convinced they were the superspreader centres.....clearly, after another 5 weeks of schools being open throughout the 2nd wave, with infection rates still falling, I think we can finally put that myth to bed.
Did you miss the national lockdown for a month or....?
His point is the schools were still open during that period. The lockdown seems to have worked despite apparent "superspreaders (schools)" still being open.Did you miss the national lockdown for a month or....?
...were the schools closed?
First person in the world vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine .I've thought of a headline for the Sun "Covrid!" - Coventry becomes the first place in the world to vaccinate a person against Covid
His point is the schools were still open during that period. The lockdown seems to have worked despite apparent "superspreaders (schools)" still being open.
It isn't a myth though, there is a clear correlation between schools returning and the second wave gaining traction. I suspect that many school aged children may have contracted it during this period (asymptomatic or otherwise) and thus within schools there is possibly a degree of immunity, and as such the spread within schools has slowed. November's lockdown has then helped to reduce transmission amongst the wider community.
Acknowledged.Don't get me wrong Wingy mate....I'm not defending the twats in charge.....just having a little friendly poke at some of the posters on here who were campaigning for the schools to be closed as they were convinced they were the superspreader centres.....clearly, after another 5 weeks of schools being open throughout the 2nd wave, with infection rates still falling, I think we can finally put that myth to bed.
His point is the schools were still open during that period. The lockdown seems to have worked despite apparent "superspreaders (schools)" still being open.
...were the schools closed?
Fair enough..."myth" was a particularly bad choice of word given the levels of denial surrounding Covid.
The point I was trying to make, which @Rich has nicely summarised, is that lockdowns can work without closing schools, which IMO should remain open at nearly all costs, 2nd only the NHS facilities.
The damage done by schools closing for 6 months was catastrophic, especially in deprived areas. We must never do that again.
They'd have fallen quicker if closed as well, and that would have given more wriggle room going forward.Don't get me wrong Wingy mate....I'm not defending the twats in charge.....just having a little friendly poke at some of the posters on here who were campaigning for the schools to be closed as they were convinced they were the superspreader centres.....clearly, after another 5 weeks of schools being open throughout the 2nd wave, with infection rates still falling, I think we can finally put that myth to bed.
They'd have fallen quicker if closed as well, and that would have given more wriggle room going forward.
It's never been an argument (from me, at least) that closing other things and not schools will have no effect, it's whether there's a point to the mild effect not supressing it sufficiently that you can relax restrictions to the level they are, fairly confident that it won't come back to bite in Jan / Feb / March.
As for schools open at all costs - what's more unfair? Some pupils having to isolate while others go in, some teachers off while others aren't... or the same equitable teaching product available to all? What would be far better would have been to plan how to deliver education in the nine monts we've had since the first lockdown began.
First person in the world vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine .
Crocodile tears if ever I've seen them. Should have told him MP's wouldn't be getting their pay rise and we would have seen something more realistic.
Just when you thought Mancock couldn't make himself look anymore of a twat.
Lockdown was really just doing what they experts had been saying all summer. If you want to open up schools something else has to close to offset it. So we kept schools open but closed bars, restaurants etc.Fair enough..."myth" was a particularly bad choice of word given the levels of denial surrounding Covid.
The point I was trying to make, which @Rich has nicely summarised, is that lockdowns can work without closing schools, which IMO should remain open at nearly all costs, 2nd only the NHS facilities.
The damage done by schools closing for 6 months was catastrophic, especially in deprived areas. We must never do that again.
Just when you thought Mancock couldn't make himself look anymore of a twat.
Lockdown was really just doing what they experts had been saying all summer. If you want to open up schools something else has to close to offset it. So we kept schools open but closed bars, restaurants etc.
One for the teachers on here. With the huge numbers of students and staff off, and with some schools seeing who year groups sent home or even schools shut completely are kids actually getting their full education or is there going to need to be a lot of going back over things when we're back to normal?
It's nice that Bill Shakespeare was rolled out for the cameras to get a jab but think of poor Harry Shipman in the same ward who's been told to fuck off
Lockdown was really just doing what they experts had been saying all summer. If you want to open up schools something else has to close to offset it. So we kept schools open but closed bars, restaurants etc.
One for the teachers on here. With the huge numbers of students and staff off, and with some schools seeing who year groups sent home or even schools shut completely are kids actually getting their full education or is there going to need to be a lot of going back over things when we're back to normal?
Jack Tripper was left out again I see
How will it work then? If huge chunks of students have been missing weeks and there's no time to catch up on that work then surely if you grade in the same way as other years there's going to be a problem.No time to go back over things, I will do well to finish the GCSE course as it is.
How will it work then? If huge chunks of students have been missing weeks and there's no time to catch up on that work then surely if you grade in the same way as other years there's going to be a problem.
Or are we just accepting that the main aim of exam results is to push people through to the next stage (ie: GCSE results to get you on Levels, ALevel results to get you into uni etc) and it doesn't really matter if results year to year aren't equitable as long as you have the right number of people moving onto the next stage?
Obviously not an easy answer as any plan will have its flaws but it does rather negate the 'keep schools open at all costs' mantra if kids still aren't getting taught the full curriculum.
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