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Ian1779

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  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,351
surely it is not true that Foodbanks are included in those classed as ‘non-essential’ retail?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,352
Ian1779 said:
surely it is not true that Foodbanks are included in those classed as ‘non-essential’ retail?
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That's got to be a mistake. The bit about closing places of worship says they can stay open if they're being used as food banks so would be very strange to close other food banks down.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,353
chiefdave said:
That's got to be a mistake. The bit about closing places of worship says they can stay open if they're being used as food banks so would be very strange to close other food banks down.
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That’s what I thought - I read it in an article, then I went to the .Gov website and unsurprisingly was none the wiser....

Article (maybe not the best place for news I know) but still more comprehensive than the government guidance.

Full list of 'essential shops' allowed to stay open in England from Thursday
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,354
Be interesting to see the figures tomorrow given the slow down in infections. Or does anyone know what the figure was last Monday
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,355
"Why can't pubs sell takeaway beer to go with their takeaway food," asks Conservative Mark Pawsey
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I feel ill, I agree with him. Why can't they?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,356
Deleted member 5849 said:
I feel ill, I agree with him. Why can't they?
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Because everything good has to be ruined
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,357
Deleted member 5849 said:
I feel ill, I agree with him. Why can't they?
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Mark Pawsey, the Conservative MP for Rugby has just asked Johnson the same question. The response, "There's a budget of measures that we need to bring together to get the R down and alas, when you start unpicking one bit, logically a lot of the rest of it comes undone.".
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,358
chiefdave said:
That's got to be a mistake. The bit about closing places of worship says they can stay open if they're being used as food banks so would be very strange to close other food banks down.
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The article is updated now that shows Foodbanks in the open category.... which is a relief at least.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,359
chiefdave said:
Mark Pawsey, the Conservative MP for Rugby has just asked Johnson the same question. The response, "There's a budget of measures that we need to bring together to get the R down and alas, when you start unpicking one bit, logically a lot of the rest of it comes undone.".
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Could have closed schools and not ruined businesses but he wanted to be a prick
 
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Ian1779

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  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,360
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Could have closed schools and not ruined businesses but he wanted to be a prick
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I love how these pricks pretend they give a fuck about education when they haven’t for the last 10 years.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,361
Ian1779 said:
I love how these pricks pretend they give a fuck about education when they haven’t for the last 10 years.
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Bit like the fuckers banging on about the effect of lock down on mental health who supported austerity which sent mental health issues sky rocketing and cut services and they never said a word about it
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,362
Why have I only noticed now that the head of the vaccines task force is married to a government minister?
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,363
Sky Blue Pete said:
Be interesting to see the figures tomorrow given the slow down in infections. Or does anyone know what the figure was last Monday
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Figures always slowdown on sat sun and mond then jump on Tuesday.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,364
Kieranp96 said:
Figures always slowdown on sat sun and mond then jump on Tuesday.
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I know I just wondered what figure was last Monday.

Checked it’s

Infections - 20890 so today is 2000 less from last monday
Deaths - 102 so an increase of 34 on last Monday

Interesting
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,365
David O'Day said:
Why have I only noticed now that the head of the vaccines task force is married to a government minister?
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To be honest at this point it would be a bigger shock if that wasn't the case.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,366
Sky Blue Pete said:
I know I just wondered what figure was last Monday.

Checked it’s

Infections - 20890 so today is 2000 less from last monday
Deaths - 102 so an increase of 34 on last Monday

Interesting
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Cases isn't usually lagged but deaths are. Hopefully the growth in cases is slowing now, just don't think it'll turn around to anywhere near the level needed in 4 weeks given how high the residual number of cases is. Hospital admissions still on the rise and now at 1500 a day which means big numbers of deaths pretty much locked in for a while yet.

Can't find the data but does anybody know what proportion of hospitalisations end up in ICU?
 
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Seamus1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,367
Sky Blue Pete said:
I know I just wondered what figure was last Monday.

Checked it’s

Infections - 20890 so today is 2000 less from last monday
Deaths - 102 so an increase of 34 on last Monday

Interesting
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I think it will be interesting to see what the data is in a week or ten days’ time, after we have had a week’s worth of data from children being back in school
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,368
Ian1779 said:
I love how these pricks pretend they give a fuck about education when they haven’t for the last 10 years.
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See also: mental health

Edit: beaten
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,369
shmmeee said:
See also: mental health

Edit: beaten
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Rishi Sunak openly lying in a twitter post about the government's supply of money. These cunts don't give a fuck about mental health, they're piling it on for Austerity on Stilts which will no doubt have major effects on mental health, physical health, education and everything else like the last 10 years has.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,370
fernandopartridge said:
Rishi Sunak openly lying in a twitter post about the government's supply of money. These cunts don't give a fuck about mental health, they're piling it on for Austerity on Stilts which will no doubt have major effects on mental health, physical health, education and everything else like the last 10 years has.
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Please direct me to this tweet.
 

speedie87

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  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,371
Many people on here who work in offices still expected to go into work thursday onwards?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2020
  • #35,372
SBAndy said:
Please direct me to this tweet.
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I assume this one:

 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,373
Just watched a Q and A with a scientist from Coventry(think that's correct) on bbc news and one of teh questions was why is it OK for my kids to go to school but not play football... And the answer basically was you could argue outdoor football was better and safer but school is more important to children.... Importance over safety... The universities being open is senseless too
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,374
Evo1883 said:
Just watched a Q and A with a scientist from Coventry(think that's correct) on bbc news and one of teh questions was why is it OK for my kids to go to school but not play football... And the answer basically was you could argue outdoor football was better and safer but school is more important to children.... Importance over safety... The universities being open is senseless too
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He’s right isn’t he?? There’s an argument for shutting everything as otherwise it’s too subjective and this argument plays out across swimming pools or gyms or places of worship. They are all important for fitness or wellbeing. Should have had a circuit breaker week before half term and half term and week after then go again
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,375
Sky Blue Pete said:
He’s right isn’t he?? There’s an argument for shutting everything as otherwise it’s too subjective and this argument plays out across swimming pools or gyms or places of worship. They are all important for fitness or wellbeing. Should have had a circuit breaker week before half term and half term and week after then go again
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The one I can't get my head around is universities... There is obviously a much greater risk of spread because of age, living together, parties etc.... When they can simply learn online can't they?

Universities should close
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,376
Evo1883 said:
The one I can't get my head around is universities... There is obviously a much greater risk of spread because of age, living together, parties etc.... When they can simply learn online can't they?

Universities should close
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Two reasons:

- Vice Chancellors scared of a funding crisis with students deferring rather than going online

- Tory donors being property investors with a heavy stake in the student lets market

So you’ve got unis that don’t want to (at the top) and a government that doesn’t want to either.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,377
Don't care if this is slightly off topic, but whilst everybody is going through this crap, I just received a call from my bank (guffaw) asking me to confirm authorisation of a payment. He started with a 'as you know your bank would never call you' at which point I lost my usual sarcastic tone and asked him to have a look in the mirror about ringing up vulnerable people (I'm not in terms of scammers) in the current circumstances. He persisted undeterred at which point I got increasingly hostile until he hung up. Boils my p*ss these people do. (I've had to 'recsue' my 86 year old stepfather from these people on a couple of occasions when the daft sod has authorised payments in the thousands (one of which was part purchase in a yacht, and he still never realised he was being scammed !
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,378
Woo hoo.....Mass rapid testing coming to Liverpool.....with the Army in attendance!


.....Only about 6 weeks too late to avoid the already over-run hospitals where potential life saving non-covid procedures are now being cancelled on a regular basis due to a lack of capacity......


Of course, all the non-maskers & deniers who are responsible for the community spread wont get tested.....all the good citizens will get tested, exposing the obvious high levels of asymptomatic cases........Net result will be EVERYTHING will get locked down proper until 2021.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,379
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Woo hoo.....Mass rapid testing coming to Liverpool.....with the Army in attendance!
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Good news but as ever this will only be effective with working track and trace.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,380
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Woo hoo.....Mass rapid testing coming to Liverpool.....with the Army in attendance!


.....Only about 6 weeks too late to avoid the already over-run hospitals where potential life saving non-covid procedures are now being cancelled on a regular basis due to a lack of capacity......


Of course, all the non-maskers & deniers who are responsible for the community spread wont get tested.....all the good citizens will get tested, exposing the obvious high levels of asymptomatic cases........Net result will be EVERYTHING will get locked down proper until 2021.
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I don't understand why the UK media, so willing to show overrun hospitals in Italy in February this year do so little to show what's going on in hospitals on Merseyside
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,381
fernandopartridge said:
I don't understand why the UK media, so willing to show overrun hospitals in Italy in February this year do so little to show what's going on in hospitals on Merseyside
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BBC last night
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,382
Evo1883 said:
The one I can't get my head around is universities... There is obviously a much greater risk of spread because of age, living together, parties etc.... When they can simply learn online can't they?

Universities should close
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Their argument is also access to facilities (labs, technology, documents, books etc) wouldn't be available if they locked down.

I agree btw, it's crazy, because as with everything and everybody else, it means adapting for a (relatively) short space of time... but that's the argument.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,383
I see former Cov legend David Icke has now got a bigger following with all the COVID conspiracy theorists. I can't believe lockdown has gotten to people that much that they are starting to believe his bull shit.
 
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Seamus1

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  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,384
Sky Blue Pete said:
BBC last night
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So much of the printed/online media is right wing though that they continue to snipe at the BBC. Even though it is the second biggest pile of crud on earth (closely behind Nigel Farage), the Mail Online gets a massive volume of clicks...it was even worse under the stewardship of Paul Dacre

I still think it can be linked to Brexit; got to show that Brits are tough and don’t need any help...that British is best
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 3, 2020
  • #35,385
Deleted member 5849 said:
Their argument is also access to facilities (labs, technology, documents, books etc) wouldn't be available if they locked down.
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But that argument falls apart when the government is pushing the universities to deliver courses entirely online but also not allow students to leave campus.
Ministers want to place universities in England into lockdown for two weeks before Christmas, with students told to remain on campus and all teaching carried out online, the Guardian has learned.

Under the government’s plan, which is in its early stages, universities would go into lockdown from 8 December until 22 December, when all students would be allowed to return to their home towns.

The move is designed to deliver on Boris Johnson’s pledge to “get students home safely for Christmas” but prevent the spread of the virus by limiting mixing between the student body and wider community in the weeks before more than a million students travel home.
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