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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,211
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Fully accurate Boris told jokes and a pack of lies and the cap doffers fell in line. It's the Conservatives' purpose to con people into voting against their own self interest so their mates can accumulate privilege and influence. The Republicans do the same in the US and there are American versions of you who argue against things that are objectively better and more popular when partisan affiliation is removed
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I think it’s pretty clear that Cummings and Gove are undermining Boris. Cummings is really Goves man and I don’t think Boris in the top job was ever part of their plan. Hence the continued leaks, witnessed again today. We’ll just be changing the clown, Cummings is the ring master.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,212
Someone found the keys to the fridge.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,213
skybluetony176 said:
I think it’s pretty clear that Cummings and Gove are undermining Boris. Cummings is really Goves man and I don’t think Boris in the top job was ever part of their plan. Hence the continued leaks, witnessed again today. We’ll just be changing the clown, Cummings is the ring master.
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Gove is dreaming, he's probably the most disliked of them all
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,214
fucking state of this
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,215
These graphs are a mess and Whitty should resign
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,216
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Gove is dreaming, he's probably the most disliked of them all
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Doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Look at Boris. The least qualified in every way PM we’ve ever had who in any other per era in politics wouldn’t have had a political career full stop based solely on his chaotic personal life and his dishonesty connected to it. He was a second rate journalist and even that was above what should have been the pinnacle of his career.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,217
skybluetony176 said:
Doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Look at Boris. The least qualified in every way PM we’ve ever had who in any other per era in politics wouldn’t have had a political career full stop based solely on his chaotic personal life and his dishonesty connected to it. He was a second rate journalist and even that was above what should have been the pinnacle of his career.
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Johnson has charisma and acting like a bumbling clown gets a huge majority. Gove looks like a snivelling weasel and won’t be enough to con the North a second time
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,218
So basically Boris has just said that all the tiers did was kick the can down the road of the inevitable lockdown that was needed weeks ago. Not in those words obviously but that’s what he was saying in reality.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,219
Just say what you’re going to do!
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,220
This is painful
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,221
I am livid. I’m not going to get into a debate with anyone but they just said on the briefing about 4k of deaths a day (as mentioned in the media) IF the R rate continues to increase...when they know its decreasing !!!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,222
He still wants schools and unis to spread it all around. What a prick
 
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Walsgrave

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,223
Thank goodness furlough has been extended, it will be a lifeline for hospitality. Seems like it will be too late for those who were made redundant recently.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,224
Deleted member 5849 said:
Other way round, treasury didn't want lockdown.
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I know that's what we think and expect but it came across opposite to me.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,225
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Fully accurate Boris told jokes and a pack of lies and the cap doffers fell in line. It's the Conservatives' purpose to con people into voting against their own self interest so their mates can accumulate privilege and influence. The Republicans do the same in the US and there are American versions of you who argue against things that are objectively better and more popular when partisan affiliation is removed
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Other than Cameron what other Tory leader fits the stereotype?
 

Ian1779

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,226
CCFCSteve said:
I am livid. I’m not going to get into a debate with anyone but they just said on the briefing about 4k of deaths a day (as mentioned in the media) IF the R rate continues to increase...when they know its decreasing !!!
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The R rate is higher than those graphs suggest. It’s just manipulated statistics.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,227
wingy said:
I know that's what we think and expect but it came across opposite to me.
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That's what they said, though.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,228
Grendel said:
Other than Cameron what other Tory leader fits the stereotype?
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All of them, the aim is to speak posh, use long words and talk about tax cuts without explaining who they’re for. Johnson got an especially large majority because he has charisma and tells jokes
 

Great_Expectations

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,229
Grendel said:
Other than Cameron what other Tory leader fits the stereotype?
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Weren’t you signing off this thread nearly two hours ago as you (and ‘nobody’) cared about it?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,230
Walsgrave said:
Thank goodness furlough has been extended, it will be a lifeline for hospitality. Seems like it will be too late for those who were made redundant recently.
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Said a while ago they'd probably u-turn on ending furlough right before the end but I was expecting a bit more notice than 4.5 hours!
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,231
Brighton Sky Blue said:
All of them, the aim is to speak posh, use long words and talk about tax cuts without explaining who they’re for. Johnson got an especially large majority because he has charisma and tells jokes
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No most since the 60’s have not like you had the benefit of a fee paid school you are more privileged than most
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,232
Walsgrave said:
Thank goodness furlough has been extended, it will be a lifeline for hospitality. Seems like it will be too late for those who were made redundant recently.
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Of course, you can't pay people in the south 67% That was just for the northerners.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,233
Grendel said:
No most since the 60’s have not like you had the benefit of a fee paid school you are more privileged than most
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And through my job I do my best to pay it back. Nice way of sidestepping the point
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,234
Grendel said:
Other than Cameron what other Tory leader fits the stereotype?
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Grendel said:
Other than Cameron what other Tory leader fits the stereotype?
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Ian Duncan Smith, Michael Howard, William Hague.
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,235
Walsgrave said:
Thank goodness furlough has been extended, it will be a lifeline for hospitality. Seems like it will be too late for those who were made redundant recently.
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also nothing for the self employed again
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,236
Great_Expectations said:
Weren’t you signing off this thread nearly two hours ago as you (and ‘nobody’) cared about it?
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Kenny didn’t pick up
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,237
Didn't Jim the Gateman log off 2 hours ago?
 
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Walsgrave

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,238
chiefdave said:
Said a while ago they'd probably u-turn on ending furlough right before the end but I was expecting a bit more notice than 4.5 hours!
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Probably cynical of me to think as this lockdown appears to be in response to yesterday's data rather than an attempt to screw over people affected by potential redundancy, but part of me felt the same. I doubt that anyone made redundant already will be accepted onto the scheme, which is a real shame, as the justification will be that such people have 'unviable jobs', or whatever the hawks want to call it.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,239
So from the teacher on been earlier today 2%of secondary and1% of primary children have had Corona since September.
50k+16k.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,240
chiefdave said:
Said a while ago they'd probably u-turn on ending furlough right before the end but I was expecting a bit more notice than 4.5 hours!
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I find this difficult to understand as the replacement scheme is pretty much the same anyway and as an employer whose already agreed with staff regarding the new scheme I am somewhat puzzled ng that comment
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,241
Skybluefaz said:
Of course, you can't pay people in the south 67% That was just for the northerners.
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Its 74% and is hardly any different regarding the open scheme and actually better than the October furlough
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,242
wingy said:
So from the teacher on been earlier today 2%of secondary and1% of primary children have had Corona since September.
50k+16k.
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Including asymptomatic?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,243
wingy said:
So from the teacher on been earlier today 2%of secondary and1% of primary children have had Corona since September.
50k+16k.
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This is why schools should be closed. They might not be getting ill but they sure as hell transmit it.
 
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Seamus1

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,244
It’s very much a Catch-22 situation with this Government and Cabinet. It would be very very difficult to sack or table a motion of no confidence in Boris Johnson as he is popular amongst a significant percentage of the electorate simply because he was the Prime Minister who got Brexit done. To many, Brexit seems even more important than COVID.

Johnson though cannot really sack any members of the Cabinet as they became pretty much bulletproof when they lined up behind the PM when it came to the Cummings saga. I think it was only Priti Patel who did not herself post the hastily penned template on Twitter...merely retweeting from (I believe) Dominic Raab.

Credit where it is due to the extension of the furlough scheme.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 31, 2020
  • #35,245
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Including asymptomatic?
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Wouldn't know
Doubt it.
 
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