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  • Start date Oct 28, 2017
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Nick

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #141
skybluesam66 said:
coming from town, the junction before sainsburys to the right
In my childhood I won the World cup, FA cup etc there

Google Maps
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Ah yeah thats the one. School on one side and then the shops on the other?

Is a fair bit of land there but not sure the houses would be too happy.

In the summer there as usually hundreds of blokes making their own matches on the grass, they have kits and everything.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #142
Nick said:
Ah yeah thats the one. School on one side and then the shops on the other?

Is a fair bit of land there but not sure the houses would be too happy.

In the summer there as usually hundreds of blokes making their own matches on the grass, they have kits and everything.
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Even Bigi was coaching some refugees I think.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #143
wingy said:
Even Bigi was coaching some refugees I think.
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Fair play to them, there's usually loads of people gather up there for a kickabout.

I hope he was teaching them Wembley Doubles.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #144
Starting my search but have to fit it in around my actual work.

Am I right in saying the search zone is a 9 mile buffer around the council house? I seem to recall fisher saying that’s where it had to be.
 

Otis

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #145
shmmeee said:
Here's the TRU site: 43.6 acres and freehold owned by TRU so maybe a good shout.

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Bloody hell that is some expansion. Earlier today it was only 4.72 acres.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #146
Otis said:
Bloody hell that is some expansion. Earlier today it was only 4.72 acres.
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That’s the warehouse and surrounding land that is included in the title.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #147
Did they even own the site.
Seem to recall they've trying to negotiate rents down or Holidays.
Most likely part of someone's portfolio.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #148
Toys R Us one just put a bit of fake grass down and theres an indoor academy
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #149
Nick said:
Toys R Us one just put a bit of fake grass down and theres an indoor academy
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I worked there years ago. Wasps can have it for their kicking barn, the high racks will work as rugby posts
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #150
fernandopartridge said:
I worked there years ago. Wasps can have it for their kicking barn, the high racks will work as rugby posts
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Sounded like you were busy
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #151
Stage 1: All registered land, over 15 acres, within 9 miles of the Council House:



Bad news for those that want a city centre stadium.

Do we think 15 acres is too large?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #152
Is that the Marconi / Copsewood site there just about Willenhall, guessing the pink roads are Binley Rd and Allard Way. There would be good.

shmmeee said:
Stage 1: All registered land, over 15 acres, within 9 miles of the Council House:



Bad news for those that want a city centre stadium.

Do we think 15 acres is too large?
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #153
fernandopartridge said:
Is that the Marconi / Copsewood site there just about Willenhall, guessing the pink roads are Binley Rd and Allard Way. There would be good.
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Been sent home early because of snow. Will have a look on Monday.

Worth remembering that I’ve done no ownership filtering so may include large plots still owned by housing developers or whatever Paragon Park between Foleshill Rd and Stoney Stanton is there for example. Once I’ve got the size and location down I’ll start whittling it down.

Also those titles are about 6 months out of date, but I’ll fix that too.
 
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Ricketts

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #154
The Toys R Us warehouse site would be perfect.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #155
Ricketts said:
The Toys R Us warehouse site would be perfect.
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Right time to make an offer as well.

Knowing Sisu they’d just buy TRU and restructure the debt
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #156
Thinking about putting a max size on there too. Say 15-50 acres. Presumably some level of excess is best to allow the club to sell to retailers or whatever next door?
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #157
Liquid Gold said:
If I was chairman I'd be in touch with Wetherspoon to build the first multi use pub/stadium complex.
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Get a Nandos in there as well and we'd have our pick of the British players.
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #158
Ricketts said:
The Toys R Us warehouse site would be perfect.
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I've said before the site over the road from that, so south from the business park would be decent. Farmland at the moment I think. TRU would be even better.
 

Wheelfass

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  • Mar 5, 2018
  • #159
Otis said:
Cheers for that.

Now can you zoom in a bit and see if you can see me and my dog.
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You can see my house.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 5, 2018
  • #160
shmmeee said:
Right. My day job is partly searching for land for companies to buy and develop. Let’s get this sorted. What are the specs we need for a stadium? What sort of acreage? What sort of location? What sort of existing uses?

I’m going to pull off a list of potential sites with the addresses of the owners and send it to Fisher.
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I hesitate to blow smoke but... could be the best thing to actually happen, show him the choices, force a decision... whatever it is!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 5, 2018
  • #161
shmmeee said:
Stage 1: All registered land, over 15 acres, within 9 miles of the Council House:



Bad news for those that want a city centre stadium.

Do we think 15 acres is too large?
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Not great for city centre, no. But at least reassuring that there are sites, and we don't *have* to be welded to the Ricoh.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2018
  • #162
Busy today so no updates. Did update my title plots today though which’ll help.

Really not sure how to proceed once I’ve done location and size. Probably remove flood plain stuff, look for stuff near a main road I guess.

What else do you need other than a given size?
 

Otis

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  • Mar 5, 2018
  • #163
shmmeee said:
Busy today so no updates. Did update my title plots today though which’ll help.

Really not sure how to proceed once I’ve done location and size. Probably remove flood plain stuff, look for stuff near a main road I guess.

What else do you need other than a given size?
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The likelihood of resident objections.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Mar 5, 2018
  • #164
shmmeee said:
Stage 1: All registered land, over 15 acres, within 9 miles of the Council House:



Bad news for those that want a city centre stadium.

Do we think 15 acres is too large?
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Don't tell Tim.
 

Frank Sidebottom

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 6, 2018
  • #165

How about this site... just shy of 6 acres, But I reckon it would be suitable for roughly a 20k stadium. Fairly near town, Downside is there would need to be a few compulsory purchases made.
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 6, 2018
  • #166
Timperley said:
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How about this site... just shy of 6 acres, But I reckon it would be suitable for roughly a 20k stadium. Fairly near town, Downside is there would need to be a few compulsory purchases made.
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That's quite close to our old stadium isn't it? Gosford Green area.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 6, 2018
  • #167
shmmeee said:
Busy today so no updates. Did update my title plots today though which’ll help.

Really not sure how to proceed once I’ve done location and size. Probably remove flood plain stuff, look for stuff near a main road I guess.

What else do you need other than a given size?
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I wouldn't even say lack of a main road is an obstacle...

If the club were to do it properly.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 6, 2018
  • #168
For those interested there are roughly 1,400 sites in that first image. So remember that when people say there’s nowhere to build. Gonna try to get it down to 100 or so. Will probably focus on stuff owned by a company.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 6, 2018
  • #169
Also: it costs about 40p to write to someone in bulk. £3 to find the owner of a private site. Likely roughly half of them are private, so for a total outgoing of about £2600 (plus time) you could write a letter to the owners of each site asking if they would sell for a stadium.

What I’m saying is: for less than a month of Stuart Beavon we could find a new ground.

I’m also saying: I’ve clocked this with a total effort of about three hours. What has Tim been doing for four years?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 6, 2018
  • #170
shmmeee said:
Also: it costs about 40p to write to someone in bulk. £3 to find the owner of a private site. Likely roughly half of them are private, so for a total outgoing of about £2600 (plus time) you could write a letter to the owners of each site asking if they would sell for a stadium.

What I’m saying is: for less than a month of Stuart Beavon we could find a new ground.

I’m also saying: I’ve clocked this with a total effort of about three hours. What has Tim been doing for four years?
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tbf it's probably a little more difficult than that but... I do get your point.

Also, to stop the circular arguments, probably best we all acknowledge here and now we know the stadium from SISU is a red herring. The frustrating thing is they have taken a kernal of truth, that every club really should have their own ground. Going forward... I hope any future owners remember and recognise that. Even if it isn't attainable immediately, I hope they have it on their radar to at least try for!
 

Captain Dart

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  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #171
Otis said:
That's quite close to our old stadium isn't it? Gosford Green area.
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shmmeee said:
Also: it costs about 40p to write to someone in bulk. £3 to find the owner of a private site. Likely roughly half of them are private, so for a total outgoing of about £2600 (plus time) you could write a letter to the owners of each site asking if they would sell for a stadium.

What I’m saying is: for less than a month of Stuart Beavon we could find a new ground.

I’m also saying: I’ve clocked this with a total effort of about three hours. What has Tim been doing for four years?
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I dare not say.
 
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Hobo

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  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #172
Otis said:
That's quite close to our old stadium isn't it? Gosford Green area.
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It's even got a road already named after an ex manager Mowbray Street
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #173
Hobo said:
It's even got a road already named after an ex manager Mowbray Street
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Not one called Bottler Street?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #174
Otis said:
Not one called Bottler Street?
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I drove past a business yesterday in Derby called "Complete Bottling".

Will get a picture if I go again to send the squad if they mess things up
 
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Cov kid 55

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  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #175
Otis said:
Not one called Bottler Street?
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I’m amazed - it’s been an hour and a half since you posted this, and CC4L hasn’t hammered you yet. Hope he’s ok!
 
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