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Greggs

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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Who is out of contract in the summer? Moore, O'hare, Palmer?
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #2
Palmer has another year.

I make it Moore, Fadz, Kelly, O’Hare.
 
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Greggs

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #3
SBAndy said:
Palmer has another year.

I make it Moore, Fadz, Kelly, O’Hare.
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Shame. His wages could be used nicely elsewhere.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #4
O’hare’s Definitely going right?
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #5
Terry_dactyl said:
O’hare’s Definitely going right?
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I'd be amazed if he doesn't go tbh.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #6
Nuskyblue said:
I'd be amazed if he doesn't go tbh.
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Yeah, me too. It’s rubbish but hopefully we’ll get a couple of quid for him and buy a decent replacement.
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #7
Terry_dactyl said:
Yeah, me too. It’s rubbish but hopefully we’ll get a couple of quid for him and buy a decent replacement.
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I don't know think he'll go on a free.

I'd have offered him a new contract when he got injured. The kid is dynamite
 
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skybluecam

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #8
Terry_dactyl said:
Yeah, me too. It’s rubbish but hopefully we’ll get a couple of quid for him and buy a decent replacement.
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We won’t get anything if he leaves in the summer…

I wouldn’t mind Doug dipping into the piggy bank and splurging a bit on a contract offer. As much for his status as a fan favourite as his football ability.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #9
Nuskyblue said:
I'd be amazed if he doesn't go tbh.
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Where to? Listening to him on CWR driving home last night he loves being in the local area with his mates. I know money talks but I think if the offer is decent, he will stay.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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ccfc1234 said:
Where to? Listening to him on CWR driving home last night he loves being in the local area with his mates. I know money talks but I think if the offer is decent, he will stay.
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Depends on his performances. He was all but off to Burnley before he got injured.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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O’Hare doing the right thing 100% get himself fit, back in the squad half hour here half hour there, back to 2022. levels. Contract talks next fully focused.
Don’t see a problem.
 
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long way home

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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If he goes he will leave with the same level of respect and feeling towards him by fans that Hamer got and gets. He sounds a real good lad and someone who has always give his all to the team. It will not be an easy decision for him, but in my opinion he will get an offer that we will be unable to match.

We can probably offer a very good contract and guarantee playing time, but im not sure that will be enough. We just have to enjoy what he gives us now and hope we reach his ambition to be able to offer the contract his talent deserves. We have been lucky to have seen him grow and develop into a very special player he is.

Wish the lad every success no matter what his future holds.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #13
He's only been back five minutes, far too early to decide he's definitely going or staying!
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #14
long way home said:
If he goes he will leave with the same level of respect and feeling towards him by fans that Hamer got and gets. He sounds a real good lad and someone who has always give his all to the team. It will not be an easy decision for him, but in my opinion he will get an offer that we will be unable to match.

We can probably offer a very good contract and guarantee playing time, but im not sure that will be enough. We just have to enjoy what he gives us now and hope we reach his ambition to be able to offer the contract his talent deserves. We have been lucky to have seen him grow and develop into a very special player he is.

Wish the lad every success no matter what his future holds.
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I’d put him on par with Vik levels of respect rather than Hamer.
 
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long way home

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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Sick Boy said:
I’d put him on par with Vik levels of respect rather than Hamer.
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We have been lucky to see Vik, Hamer and COH all 3 are very special players that don't come round very often. Credit to Robins and his staff for seeing it and developing it.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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Worth noting with O'Hare when he came to us on a free we wouldn't have been his only option at that point, so he didn't cost us anything in the first place either.
 
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aloisiwouldhavescored

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #17
Thought Bidwell's contract up at the end of the season too. The way he's playing at the moment he deserves a new one. Please!
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #18
O’Hare has the option to just let his contract run down and pick a decent offer from elsewhere. Just enjoy watching a talented player while we can
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #19
Sick Boy said:
I’d put him on par with Vik levels of respect rather than Hamer.
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Nah. Vik was up front, lying about not being offered a new contract and giving it the old love the club shtick is much more Gus.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Worth noting with O'Hare when he came to us on a free we wouldn't have been his only option at that point, so he didn't cost us anything in the first place either.
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Obviously just wants to keep his song.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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shmmeee said:
Nah. Vik was up front, lying about not being offered a new contract and giving it the old love the club shtick is much more Gus.
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Player statements to the press are not delivered under oath
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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DrPoolittle said:
Player statements to the press are not delivered under oath
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And neither are club ones TBF but he’s got far more reason to lie about it.
 
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junglej13

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #23
Generally murmurings seem to indicate O'Hare will be off and sounds like Burnley were prepared to pretty much treble (or more) his wages here last summer. The one thing that may go in our favour with him having missed pretty much a years football is simply the fact he will play here.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #24
I hope he stays, seems a nice lad. Big decision for him though. I'm sure we will offer a good deal to keep him but I reckon he could get a big payday elsewhere. Off the back of a couple of terrible injuries that would be hard to resist.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #25
junglej13 said:
Generally murmurings seem to indicate O'Hare will be off and sounds like Burnley were prepared to pretty much treble (or more) his wages here last summer. The one thing that may go in our favour with him having missed pretty much a years football is simply the fact he will play here.
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What’s he on?

Surely we could offer him a decent amount.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2023
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skybluecam said:
What’s he on?

Surely we could offer him a decent amount.
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Wants £25k+ it seems. Dunno what he’s on.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 11, 2023
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shmmeee said:
Wants £25k+ it seems. Dunno what he’s on.
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Whatever he signed before was 'unsustainable'.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Whatever he signed before was 'unsustainable'.
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Under Sisu every contract was unsustainable TBF.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Dec 11, 2023
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25+ is too much. I love O'Hare but we can't go offering him that sort of money after a year out injured.

There must be a way to structure a shorter term deal (1.5 years added?) with the proviso we look again a bigger wage boost in the summer or add an easier exit if a suitable offer comes in end of the season. Something that covers us for losing him for free but also covered him if he breaks down again but allows him to gain fitness and sharpness and prove his value.

I know Haji will be on a fair whack but that will always be the case with big money signings. O'Hare has had 1 good game after a year out.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 11, 2023
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shmmeee said:
Under Sisu every contract was unsustainable TBF.
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Was specifically said by Mr Believer though, that the contracts he and Hamer signed were expressly with a view to somebody being flogged to pay for the others. Now tbf we have done the flogging, but how far upwards we have to go...?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Was specifically said by Mr Believer though, that the contracts he and Hamer signed were expressly with a view to somebody being flogged to pay for the others. Now tbf we have done the flogging, but how far upwards we have to go...?
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Id argue if we’ve got £25k/wk to chuck at Haji Wright and we haven’t for O’Hare then Doug needs some budgeting lessons. £1.3M/year or £3.9m over three with the possibility of making more than that back. Frankly I’d rather spend that than £5m on a CM of those are the options.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 11, 2023
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shmmeee said:
Id argue if we’ve got £25k/wk to chuck at Haji Wright and we haven’t for O’Hare then Doug needs some budgeting lessons. £1.3M/year or £3.9m over three with the possibility of making more than that back. Frankly I’d rather spend that than £5m on a CM of those are the options.
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There's arguably more risk with O'Hare after a serious injury or two. Par to what he's currently on seems fair, maybe with some healthy performance related bonuses so if he stays fit he gets his rise as such, but it's a risk to give a wage rise just after a return from such a serious layoff.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #33
Alkhen said:
25+ is too much. I love O'Hare but we can't go offering him that sort of money after a year out injured.

There must be a way to structure a shorter term deal (1.5 years added?) with the proviso we look again a bigger wage boost in the summer or add an easier exit if a suitable offer comes in end of the season. Something that covers us for losing him for free but also covered him if he breaks down again but allows him to gain fitness and sharpness and prove his value.

I know Haji will be on a fair whack but that will always be the case with big money signings. O'Hare has had 1 good game after a year out.
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25k/w is 1.3m a year. £3.9m for 3 years or £5.2 for 4.

You think we can replace even his previous output for that sort of money (fee+wages)?
 

Greggs

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #34
skybluecam said:
25k/w is 1.3m a year. £3.9m for 3 years or £5.2 for 4.

You think we can replace even his previous output for that sort of money (fee+wages)?
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25 grand a week would get you a lot, certainly wouldn't be happy if we signed a bloke who has just returned from 18 months out for that sort of money. Imagine the outrage.
 

skybluecam

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  • Dec 11, 2023
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Greggs said:
25 grand a week would get you a lot, certainly wouldn't be happy if we signed a bloke who has just returned from 18 months out for that sort of money. Imagine the outrage.
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Relies on the right free agent being available though... and comes with the same risk as any other new player.
 
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