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ccfcmustang

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #71
hahaha, i love this site.

people need to read all of my posts regarding Conor Thomas as ive already said things that dispell what some of you are saying.

Someone please describe him as a footballer, something other than 'he has stamina and gives his all for 90 mins' can someone please tell me what he is good at?
 
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ccfcmustang

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #72
hill83 said:
Read that sentence again. You come across a twat. That's a fair part of the reason why you've got a backlash. You can tap dance around it all day. And then you going on one about who you played for and your age. Ironically, you are a kid who thinks he's better than everyone else because he's had a couple of trials.

Where's Beadle?

ENOUGH SAID
RANT OVER
PROUD MUMMY
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No hill, ive already said it and ill say it again. I was saying that because people on here were telling me i dont know anything about football. i know a lot about football. If i wanted to gloat about having 'trials' (even though i was at acadamies from the age of 10) i would have brought this up a long time ago. and if i had made it i certainly wouldnt be sat posting on this forum. if im being told i dont know anything about football of course i will defend myself
 

Otis

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #73
ccfcmustang said:
hahaha, i love this site.

people need to read all of my posts regarding Conor Thomas as ive already said things that dispell what some of you are saying.

Someone please describe him as a footballer, something other than 'he has stamina and gives his all for 90 mins' can someone please tell me what he is good at?
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If you read all my posts you will see that I am not Conor Thomas' biggest fan by a long chalk, so I don't need to 'take the next left out of his arse.'

He is doing a good job at the moment though and the system is working. We have now gone 8 matches in total unbeaten. Credit where criedit is due and he deserves his place in the side right now.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #74
good cardio
good presser
good passer
good ball control
big lad
willing to play box to box

thats quite a few good traits,and like otis i am not in his fanclub either.

noone is saying he must play, just saying no point dropping him whilst we are winning.
 
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ccfcmustang

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #75
Otis, thank you for actually talking some sense rather than attacking me. Im going to just put my point accross. take it as you will.


From reading posts people are saying he is a box to box midfielder. A box to box midfielder in MY OPINION is a jack of all trades so to speak with a great engine and is like an extra body in whatever phase of play the ball is in. This means they contribute in all areas; goalscoring, assists, good tackler, strong on and off the ball, bit of pace, a competent passer of the ball and a very good communicator.

According to this website http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/conor-thomas/leistungsdaten/spieler/131980 in 99 appearances for the club he has scored 1 goal and has assisted 1 goal. I think Jim O'Brien has a better engine than him for a start. His passing ability isnt greatand i think he can be very weak on and off the ball. I think his concentration is poor and i dont really see him communicating well.


I suppose it will be better to put it this way, Conor Thomas does not offer the team anything that we dont already have.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #76
ccfcmustang said:
Otis, thank you for actually talking some sense rather than attacking me. Im going to just put my point accross. take it as you will.


From reading posts people are saying he is a box to box midfielder. A box to box midfielder in MY OPINION is a jack of all trades so to speak with a great engine and is like an extra body in whatever phase of play the ball is in. This means they contribute in all areas; goalscoring, assists, good tackler, strong on and off the ball, bit of pace, a competent passer of the ball and a very good communicator.

According to this website http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/conor-thomas/leistungsdaten/spieler/131980 in 99 appearances for the club he has scored 1 goal and has assisted 1 goal. I think Jim O'Brien has a better engine than him for a start. His passing ability isnt greatand i think he can be very weak on and off the ball. I think his concentration is poor and i dont really see him communicating well.


I suppose it will be better to put it this way, Conor Thomas does not offer the team anything that we dont already have.
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He assisted with the goal against Gillingham didn't he? Put a delightful ball out that went over to Haynes for the cross for Nouble to bang it in.

In fact, against Gillingham in that first half I thought he was excellent. Best I have ever seen him play. His touch was deft, he kept it simple and ticking along and showed some lovely touches.

2nd half he ran out of steam mind.
 

covcity4life

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #77
Otis said:
He assisted with the goal against Gillingham didn't he? Put a delightful ball out that went over to Haynes for the cross for Nouble to bang it in.

In fact, against Gillingham in that first half I thought he was excellent. Best I have ever seen him play. His touch was deft, he kept it simple and ticking along and showed some lovely touches.

2nd half he ran out of steam mind.
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agreed first half he was excellent.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #78
Otis said:
He assisted with the goal against Gillingham didn't he? Put a delightful ball out that went over to Haynes for the cross for Nouble to bang it in.

In fact, against Gillingham in that first half I thought he was excellent. Best I have ever seen him play. His touch was deft, he kept it simple and ticking along and showed some lovely touches.

2nd half he ran out of steam mind.
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O Brian provided that pass.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #79
Grendel said:
O Brian provided that pass.
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Thomas played a swift forward pass to O'Brien then O'Brien to Haynes .
 

stupot07

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #80
ccfcmustang said:
Otis, thank you for actually talking some sense rather than attacking me. Im going to just put my point accross. take it as you will.


From reading posts people are saying he is a box to box midfielder. A box to box midfielder in MY OPINION is a jack of all trades so to speak with a great engine and is like an extra body in whatever phase of play the ball is in. This means they contribute in all areas; goalscoring, assists, good tackler, strong on and off the ball, bit of pace, a competent passer of the ball and a very good communicator.

According to this website http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/conor-thomas/leistungsdaten/spieler/131980 in 99 appearances for the club he has scored 1 goal and has assisted 1 goal. I think Jim O'Brien has a better engine than him for a start. His passing ability isnt greatand i think he can be very weak on and off the ball. I think his concentration is poor and i dont really see him communicating well.


I suppose it will be better to put it this way, Conor Thomas does not offer the team anything that we dont already have.
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A couple of points need to be made when assessing his appearances:

1) he made a third of those aged what 16-17, in the league above and in a relegation season in a team full of kids

2) he missed virtually the whole of 2012/13 out with injury so has had his development stunted.

3) last season both he and fleck were asked to do a particular job to sit deep and let the front 4 and fullbacks attack, fleck scored just once. Yes he made a few assists, but then he's a) a different type of player and b) he took corners and freekicks

How many goals and assists did Claude Makele score/make in his career?

You're 19.....did conor Thomas get picked ahead of you at the academy??

Box-to-box midfielder is a jack of all trades.....ha ha a bit like steven gerrard in his prime, or Bryan robson.

[and I'm not saying he is Makele, gerrard or robson, or even busquest because he's no, he's just an average league one footballer, I can however appreciate what he does for the team]

As a side note There was interesting interview with Alonso basically saying that carrick gets completely overlooked because he's not flashy enough but is what he called an 'enabler' within a team, who allows others to do their job

In other words, don't waste 10 years trying to crowbar Gerrard and Frank Lampard into the team. Alonso dodges the bullet. "Hey," he says. "That's a press debate. I'm not saying that. But the collective ideal hasn't always been there. Paul Scholes maybe hasn't had the international career he should have. Or Michael Carrick: he makes those around him better, regardless of the fact that he's not the one who scores the most goals, or a great tackler."

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
 
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hill83

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #81
wingy said:
Thomas played a swift forward pass to O'Brien then O'Brien to Haynes .
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Worth nothing in fantasy football so not interested
 

Otis

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #82
wingy said:
Thomas played a swift forward pass to O'Brien then O'Brien to Haynes .
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Yes, exactly. Thomas definitely played a part in that goal.
 

speedie87

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #83
I was always taught there are 3 elements to playing football.1. When your team has the ball and you need to either make yourself available to whoever has the ball to give them an option or create space for others with your movement. 2. When you have the ball and 3. When the opposition has the ball

I'd say Thomas excels at point 3

Reminds me a bit of Carlton palmer and Kevin Richardson in that he makes the other players better by doing the unseen side of the game well
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #84
speedie87 said:
I was always taught there are 3 elements to playing football.1. When your team has the ball and you need to either make yourself available to whoever has the ball to give them an option or create space for others with your movement. 2. When you have the ball and 3. When the opposition has the ball

I'd say Thomas excels at point 3

Reminds me a bit of Carlton palmer and Kevin Richardson in that he makes the other players better by doing the unseen side of the game well
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Totally agree Speedie.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #85
speedie87 said:
I was always taught there are 3 elements to playing football.1. When your team has the ball and you need to either make yourself available to whoever has the ball to give them an option or create space for others with your movement. 2. When you have the ball and 3. When the opposition has the ball

I'd say Thomas excels at point 3

Reminds me a bit of Carlton palmer and Kevin Richardson in that he makes the other players better by doing the unseen side of the game well
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And most fans only take note of point 2. When the player has the ball.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #86
stupot07 said:
A couple of points need to be made when assessing his appearances:

1) he made a third of those aged what 16-17, in the league above and in a relegation season in a team full of kids

2) he missed virtually the whole of 2012/13 out with injury so has had his development stunted.

3) last season both he and fleck were asked to do a particular job to sit deep and let the front 4 and fullbacks attack, fleck scored just once. Yes he made a few assists, but then he's a) a different type of player and b) he took corners and freekicks

How many goals and assists did Claude Makele score/make in his career?

You're 19.....did conor Thomas get picked ahead of you at the academy??

Box-to-box midfielder is a jack of all trades.....ha ha a bit like steven gerrard in his prime, or Bryan robson.

[and I'm not saying he is Makele, gerrard or robson, or even busquest because he's no, he's just an average league one footballer, I can however appreciate what he does for the team]

As a side note There was interesting interview with Alonso basically saying that carrick gets completely overlooked because he's not flashy enough but is what he called an 'enabler' within a team, who allows others to do their job

In other words, don't waste 10 years trying to crowbar Gerrard and Frank Lampard into the team. Alonso dodges the bullet. "Hey," he says. "That's a press debate. I'm not saying that. But the collective ideal hasn't always been there. Paul Scholes maybe hasn't had the international career he should have. Or Michael Carrick: he makes those around him better, regardless of the fact that he's not the one who scores the most goals, or a great tackler."

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
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Totally agreed. Or another name from the past, Didier Deschamps, "The Water Carrier": http://soccerlens.com/blessed-are-the-water-carriers/1380/
 
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ccfcmustang

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  • Sep 16, 2014
  • #87
Please please please don't tell me you think Thomas is an enabler? Please don't tell me you think he he makes other players look better. As I've stated, my opinion is my opinion Conor Thomas has no strengths, he is very weak for a centre midfielder and I don't think his passing ability is great. Someone said Claude makalele but he was a natural born winner. Can you say Conor Thomas is any of those things? He's just not.
 
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