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Confirmed! - Michael Rose - Ayr (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jan 20, 2019
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #36
skybluegod said:
Yep as long as they offered him a contact on same or better terms, which he has rejected, because he's under age of 23 they still get comp
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I always thought the compo was to cover early training costs so surely it should go to Aberdeen?
 

Nick

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #37
skybluegod said:
Yep as long as they offered him a contact on same or better terms, which he has rejected, because he's under age of 23 they still get comp
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Even though they had signed him from somebody else? I thought they had to go through their academy.

Does that work with players like Allisanni from us?
 

ceetee

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #38
Surely Ayr would have paid compo to Aberdeen
If Aberdeen dumped him on to Ayr then presumably they waived their right to compo.
Alternatively Aberdeen may have let him go free to Ayr on condition that compo was paid if there was a subsequent move.
There are several possibilities.
And as for us agreeing to ongoing payments, perhaps other clubs just want to grab him for free, and CCFC did the decent thing by offering consideration for a pre-contract agreement.
There was something similar with Rangers and John Fleck
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #39
ceetee said:
Surely Ayr would have paid compo to Aberdeen
If Aberdeen dumped him on to Ayr then presumably they waived their right to compo.
Alternatively Aberdeen may have let him go free to Ayr on condition that compo was paid if there was a subsequent move.
There are several possibilities.
And as for us agreeing to ongoing payments, perhaps other clubs just want to grab him for free, and CCFC did the decent thing by offering consideration for a pre-contract agreement.
There was something similar with Rangers and John Fleck
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Surely a pre contract would be down to whoever is going to give the player the best deal and nothing to do with the club if he is out of contract?
 

skybluegod

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #40
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I always thought the compo was to cover early training costs so surely it should go to Aberdeen?
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Nick said:
Even though they had signed him from somebody else? I thought they had to go through their academy.

Does that work with players like Allisanni from us?
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I may be wrong, but im 99% sure that it still counts, it isn't necessarily due to him coming from the youth team, it is a development fee, so because he has been there from age 20-23, they still had a part in his development, and so are entitled to compensation.

That's my understanding, and pretty sure i'm right on that...
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #41
skybluegod said:
I may be wrong, but im 99% sure that it still counts, it isn't necessarily due to him coming from the youth team, it is a development fee, so because he has been there form age 20-23, they still had a part in his development, and so are entitled to compensation.

That's my understanding, and pretty sure i'm right on that...
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So if we offered Allisanni or players like him a contract and they wanted to move we would get some money?
 

skybluegod

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #42
Nick said:
So if we offered Allisanni or players like him a contract and they wanted to move we would get some money?
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Yep, it is normally a very nominal fee in cases where they haven't been at the club long, or weren't brought through the youth teams, hence why we probably agreed to a sell on... as long as they are under the age of 24, think the amount of money will increase dependent on number of appearances, etc.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #43
Compo is on a sliding scale based on how long they've had him. We're normally in a good position because most of our players start with us when really young so we're owed more. One of the reasons Thomas' move to Leicester took ages. If he's been there for a year or so then they wont be owed much. To be honest as we're a different country they might not be owed anything.
 

Nick

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #44
Liquid Gold said:
Compo is on a sliding scale based on how long they've had him. We're normally in a good position because most of our players start with us when really young so we're owed more. One of the reasons Thomas' move to Leicester took ages. If he's been there for a year or so then they wont be owed much. To be honest as we're a different country they might not be owed anything.
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Fuck em, just say Brexit and hang up.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #45

Out of contract in Summer & signed pre-contract agreement.
 

Nick

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #46
Captain Dart said:
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Out of contract in Summer & signed pre-contract agreement.
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Can you update us on Julian Gray and Freddie Eastwood? I hope they sign for us.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #47
Just ask the Honest Men what's happened.
 

Nick

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #48
Liquid Gold said:
Just ask the Honest Men what's happened.
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Do you think they never dive or appeal for corners that aren't theirs?

I used to play football with a bloke who was too honest. If he was offside he would stop and hold his hands up or tell the ref if it came off him last and should be a corner.

A really nice honest bloke but really not cut out for Sunday League rules of appeal for everything and anything.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #49
Nick said:
Can you update us on Julian Gray and Freddie Eastwood? I hope they sign for us.
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My reason for posting was quite reasonable and sensible, it is the only picture in of the guy the thread.
Julian sends his regards and no one has seen Freddy since he went off to 'look at a horse'.

PS Try to be a better person.
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #50
Captain Dart said:
My reason for posting was quite reasonable and sensible, it is the only picture in of the guy the thread.
Julian sends his regards and no one has seen Freddy since he went off to 'look at a horse'.

PS Try to be a better person.
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It was (as usual) reposting stuff that has already been said.

PS. Enjoy your day at Wembley with Cov United and the rest of the anti CCFC frothers. Let's hope you aren't charged per alias as you would all be forking out a fair bit.

PPS. Have a nice day. Watch yourself on the Ice. Don't eat yellow snow.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #51
In other news has anybody heard of this Michael Rose fella?
 

Nick

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #52
Liquid Gold said:
In other news has anybody heard of this Michael Rose fella?
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He plays for Ayr and is signing for us in the Summer mate.

His 2 goals from this season:



Both decent headers!

A cheeky assist as well:

 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #53
maybe we should go in for Shankland instead. Let me find something on twitter first.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #54
It's like Shank Land watching our strikers shoot!

It's on the official now:
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #55
I know players go where the money is but surely his agent must have asked if we're going to have somewhere to play next season and been satisfied with the response.
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #56
chiefdave said:
I know players go where the money is but surely his agent must have asked if we're going to have somewhere to play next season and been satisfied with the response.
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The same as Drysdale who has just signed.

They seem confident enough about it.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #57
we could just lie to them of course
 

vow

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #58
Nick said:
It's like Shank Land watching our strikers shoot!

It's on the official now:
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Can you update us on Julian Gray and Freddie Eastwood? I hope they sign for us.


layful:ompus::emoji_smiling_imp:
 

vow

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #59
Nick said:
The same as Drysdale who has just signed.

They seem confident enough about it.
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Who? Signed for City?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #60
vow said:
Who? Signed for City?
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Yeah

TRANSFER: Declan Drysdale Joins Sky Blues
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #61
chiefdave said:
I know players go where the money is but surely his agent must have asked if we're going to have somewhere to play next season and been satisfied with the response.
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It's all up in the Ayr at the moment
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #62
fernandopartridge said:
It's all up in the Ayr at the moment
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Off we go on this thread. Punalicious!

 

vow

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #63
Nick said:
Yeah

TRANSFER: Declan Drysdale Joins Sky Blues
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Ah yeah, remember it now....forgive me, I've slept since then!
 

Spurs 'City Away Kit' Kit

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #64
Nick said:
He plays for Ayr and is signing for us in the Summer mate.

His 2 goals from this season:



Both decent headers!

A cheeky assist as well:

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All we need to do now is take a decent corner!!!
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #65
Cant believe people are getting so excited about a centre half from the sweaty sock league because he has scored twice. Hardly a massive signing to sought out the main problem of having a team who cant score
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #66
Nick said:
Do you think they never dive or appeal for corners that aren't theirs?

I used to play football with a bloke who was too honest. If he was offside he would stop and hold his hands up or tell the ref if it came off him last and should be a corner.

A really nice honest bloke but really not cut out for Sunday League rules of appeal for everything and anything.
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So we HAVE actually met then!
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #67
Signing for a team with no home or possible future after May, does he know something we don't?
 

Nick

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #68
skybluebeduff said:
Signing for a team with no home or possible future after May, does he know something we don't?
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Probably.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #69
Clearly MR took my advice to scout Ayr but somehow ‘sign Shankland’ was misunderstood
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 23, 2019
  • #70
marcusp said:
Cant believe people are getting so excited about a centre half from the sweaty sock league because he has scored twice. Hardly a massive signing to sought out the main problem of having a team who cant score
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More likely that Willis or Davies is not renewing
 
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