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Confirmed - Gervane Kastaneer (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jun 20, 2019
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ccfc1234

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #141
cc84cov said:
I’m sure we’ve done our homework on this signing
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Balden and the recruitment team have put their balls on the line and if these players turn out to be poor we will need to assess their Thinking on what constitutes a good player. I am really hopeful they are the right people to find talented players but next season we should be in a position to take a view on their endeavours.

We still need bright in my view as no one we have signed looks like an out and out number 10.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #142
mark82 said:
I think the difference is now we have a recruitment team who are clearly doing in depth research. Doesn't mean every signing will work out but they should have more chance.
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Did they do that with Meyler?
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #143
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
We’ve gone full football manager mode this preseason with the signings
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It's like he's got one of those cheat scouts where you filter by height pace etc.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #144
Grendel said:
Did they do that with Meyler?
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Did they do that with Bright?
 

junglej13

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #145
One thing I will say about Chris Badlan is he was head of European scouting at Norwich before he came here. If any club plucked out some rough diamonds over the last 12 months or so it was Norwich.
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #146
Hadji and Chippo?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #147
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Did they do that with Bright?
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What has that to do with anything? He’s a loan player from a premier league club.

People can get oddly excited with any player we sign. Meyler was dross and anyone could see that

Name the last decent player we signed from an overseas club
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #148
Otis said:
Hadji and Chippo?
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The last two I’d say were Gunnarson and Misfud
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #149
Grendel said:
What has that to do with anything? He’s a loan player from a premier league club.

People can get oddly excited with any player we sign. Meyler was dross and anyone could see that

Name the last decent player we signed from an overseas club
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Meyler issue was fitness, not ability.
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #150
Grendel said:
The last two I’d say were Gunnarson and Misfud
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Yep. Forgot about them.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #151
skyblueelephant76 said:
Meyler issue was fitness, not ability.
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It wasn’t he’s a has been
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #152
covcity4life said:
Game of thrones
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Please stop this. Now.

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glasgowfan

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #153
Grendel said:
Name the last decent player we signed from an overseas club
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Willie Humphries. (is Ards classed as overseas?)
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #154
Otis said:
Hadji and Chippo?
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Source?
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #155
Grendel said:
The last two I’d say were Gunnarson and Misfud
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Mifsud was good until his ego got the better of him.

Something like 2 goals in his last 24 games if memory serves me correctly. I thought he was great initially but faded badly.
 

Otis

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #156
Better than Joe Cole, who faded badly before we even signed him.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #157
sw88 said:
After it didn’t work with Elery Cairo, can we give the ‘pass to the Dutchy on the left hand side’ another go?
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And singing that song in Birmingham 'pass the Dutchie on the left hand side ' will go down well with the locals, the song was sang by the Birmingham group Musical Youth .
 
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hopesprings

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #158
Grendel said:
Ah they got relegated from that league - he started 10 games. I’m sceptical given our shocking record with these sort of players
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These sort of players being.....? How many Dutch premier league players have we signed previously then ?
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #159
hill83 said:
We are going to win the World Cup I reckon
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We've got to win the group stage first.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #160
Grendel said:
What has that to do with anything? He’s a loan player from a premier league club.

People can get oddly excited with any player we sign. Meyler was dross and anyone could see that

Name the last decent player we signed from an overseas club
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We could probably dredge up some sceptical comments about Bright when he first joined. So it wasn’t immediately obvious he’d be a good player for us.

How many players have we signed from abroad since Gunnar and Mifsud?

Malaga, Slager and Manset (he was at Reading and Carlisle before us)? How many appearances had these players made in a decent league?

Comparatively, Jobello and Kastaneer have played international age group football, have played the majority of their career in Ligue 2 and Eredivisie.

Off the bat, comparing these kinds of players you see the current signings have good pedigree. As opposed to the past policy of taking a punt on a cheap oversees player.

Let me stress that this doesn’t guarantee they’ll be good for us as they may struggle to adapt. But, there’s cause for optimism.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #161
Otis said:
Hadji and Chippo?
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A pleasure to watch.

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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #162
Big Mo was pretty decent!
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #163
Mucca Mad Boys said:
We could probably dredge up some sceptical comments about Bright when he first joined. So it wasn’t immediately obvious he’d be a good player for us.

How many players have we signed from abroad since Gunnar and Mifsud?

Malaga, Slager and Manset (he was at Reading and Carlisle before us)? How many appearances had these players made in a decent league?

Comparatively, Jobello and Kastaneer have played international age group football, have played the majority of their career in Ligue 2 and Eredivisie.

Off the bat, comparing these kinds of players you see the current signings have good pedigree. As opposed to the past policy of taking a punt on a cheap oversees player.

Let me stress that this doesn’t guarantee they’ll be good for us as they may struggle to adapt. But, there’s cause for optimism.
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I guess you’d have been thrilled many years ago if you’d been at a club that signed a premier league superstar by the name of Paul Telfer
 
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josh43

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #164
Anyone have any idea how much was paid for him ?
Having seen him a few times he’ll do ok if he can be motivated. Dutch League 1 is actually 3 leagues in one. Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord could compete in the PL, the middle is top league one/ bottom Championship. The bottom (where this guy came from) is no better than League one. Technically they like the ball on the ground and pass the cover off the ball. Kastaneer is reasonably big,fast and in the right place should be ok, if motivated. If it gets Jordi up on the shoulder of the defence it’s worth it for that alone. NAC fans suffered cr*p manager far longer than uk would this season and sold out every game at home.
 
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mark82

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #165
Grendel said:
Did they do that with Meyler?
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I suspect he was signed on talent rather than anything else, was clearly unfit though.

You can find the negative in anything though. Bet it's lots of fun for you.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 20, 2019
  • #166
Grendel said:
I guess you’d have been thrilled many years ago if you’d been at a club that signed a premier league superstar by the name of Paul Telfer
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Probably would be if I was a supporter of a 3rd division team.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 21, 2019
  • #167
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Probably would be if I was a supporter of a 3rd division team.
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You’ll be telling me Roy o Donovan should make a comeback soon
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 21, 2019
  • #168
hopesprings said:
These sort of players being.....? How many Dutch premier league players have we signed previously then ?
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I can think of two off the top of my head - they were both shite
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 21, 2019
  • #169
Grendel said:
You’ll be telling me Roy o Donovan should make a comeback soon
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You’re just being silly now.
 

higgs

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  • Jun 21, 2019
  • #170
Grendel said:
I can think of two off the top of my head - they were both shite
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George boateng was good for us

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Grendel

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  • Jun 21, 2019
  • #171
Mucca Mad Boys said:
You’re just being silly now.
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Why? He played 17 premier league games.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 21, 2019
  • #172
Grendel said:
Why? He played 17 premier league games.
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1 season and we signed him years after then. Using the most ridiculous examples is just counterproductive.

Scepticism is good, they are risks. Just as all signings are.

A quick check on google for Jobello and Kastaneer demonstrates why O’Donovan is a v poor example.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 21, 2019
  • #173
Mucca Mad Boys said:
1 season and we signed him years after then. Using the most ridiculous examples is just counterproductive.

Scepticism is good, they are risks. Just as all signings are.

A quick check on google for Jobello and Kastaneer demonstrates why O’Donovan is a v poor example.
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I disagree
 

Ranjit Bhurpa

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  • Jun 21, 2019
  • #174
hopesprings said:
These sort of players being.....? How many Dutch premier league players have we signed previously then ?
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Roger Van Gool?
Martin Jol ?
Hertz Van Rental?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 21, 2019
  • #175
Grendel in being a weirdo shocker.

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