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Cllr Jim O'Boyle about the council / land for stadium (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Aug 20, 2019
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 23, 2019
  • #106
ccfcway said:
both parties should be working together, not creating barriers.
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Like the barriers to Ricoh ownership put in the way by the council selling to wasps, despite the then Councillor Thompson telling the CT, when we returned from Northampton, that there was still a route to ownership of the stadium for CCFC. What happened weeks later- wasps. That was some barrier on that route!
 
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Skybluecraig

Member
  • Aug 23, 2019
  • #107
The man comes across as an arrogant prick. Two bob councillor, who does he think he is? Vote him out next opportunity.


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ccfcway

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  • Aug 23, 2019
  • #108
MalcSB said:
Like the barriers to Ricoh ownership put in the way by the council selling to wasps, despite the then Councillor Thompson telling the CT, when we returned from Northampton, that there was still a route to ownership of the stadium for CCFC. What happened weeks later- wasps. That was some barrier on that route!
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Exactly. CCC are still in Coventry, CCFC are not. Arguing with the council won’t help with that. They should be lobbying them to help find a site, asking what more info they need for woodlands site etc. Blaming the council whilst the city continues to vote these people in will get the club nowhere. The council have already made it clear they aren’t that bothered and have not suffered any loss, the club has
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Aug 23, 2019
  • #109
ccfcway said:
Exactly. CCC are still in Coventry, CCFC are not. Arguing with the council won’t help with that. They should be lobbying them to help find a site, asking what more info they need for woodlands site etc. Blaming the council whilst the city continues to vote these people in will get the club nowhere. The council have already made it clear they aren’t that bothered and have not suffered any loss, the club has
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CCFC will not be returning to Coventry if the rumours that are circulating are true we will be groundsharing with Birmingham City but not in Small Heath
 

ccfcway

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  • Aug 23, 2019
  • #110
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
CCFC will not be returning to Coventry if the rumours that are circulating are true we will be groundsharing with Birmingham City but not in Small Heath
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Alexandria stadium ?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Aug 23, 2019
  • #111
ccfcway said:
Alexandria stadium ?
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NEC
 

ccfcway

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  • Aug 23, 2019
  • #112
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
NEC
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A new stadium at nec ?, what would happen with SA and the new athletics stadium ?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Aug 23, 2019
  • #113
ccfcway said:
A new stadium at nec ?, what would happen with SA and the new athletics stadium ?
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Yes SA housing sold already apparantly
 

ccfcway

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  • Aug 23, 2019
  • #114
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Yes SA housing sold already apparantly
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Be interesting to see how that would go down with the fans, a lot closer to Coventry, will have the train links and parking without the pubs etc

Who owns it ?
 

clint van damme

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #115
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
CCFC will not be returning to Coventry if the rumours that are circulating are true we will be groundsharing with Birmingham City but not in Small Heath
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On a scale of 1 - 10, how much do you trust your source BHSB?
 
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covboy1987

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #116
clint van damme said:
On a scale of 1 - 10, how much do you trust your source BHSB?
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The club would not last 2 years in that scenario - the only way the club can survive long term is to play back in its home city -period - it would not be viable for the club owners and the next generation of fans would disappear
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #117
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
CCFC will not be returning to Coventry if the rumours that are circulating are true we will be groundsharing with Birmingham City but not in Small Heath
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Rumours from who?
 
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covboy1987

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #118
You wouldent think that the reason these people are councillors is that we the fans/people vote them in - cannot we find some councillors that will back the fans 100%
 
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covboy1987

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #119
Sky Blue Pete said:
Rumours from who?
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The last/latest rumour was that CCFC will be back playing at the Ricoh end of September early October
 

MalcSB

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #120
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
NEC
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covboy1987 said:
The club would not last 2 years in that scenario - the only way the club can survive long term is to play back in its home city -period - it would not be viable for the club owners and the next generation of fans would disappear
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according to google maps, it only takes 5 minutes longer to nec from city centre than to the Ricoh.

How have Brighton survived?
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #121
covboy1987 said:
The club would not last 2 years in that scenario - the only way the club can survive long term is to play back in its home city -period - it would not be viable for the club owners and the next generation of fans would disappear
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I don’t see it anyway but Jimmy Hill wanted to do it when he was chairman
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #122
clint van damme said:
On a sscale of 1 - 10, how much do you trust your source BHSB?
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Was a 1 when I was told but after heard the blues selling SA from someone else not connected to first source gone up to maybe a 3. Fact is that it would in theory still be in Coventry
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #123
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Was a 1 when I was told but after heard the blues selling SA from someone else not connected to first source gone up to maybe a 3. Fact is that it would in theory still be in Coventry
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Eh? Whereabouts are we talking? NEC isn’t Coventry, the boundary is about where Meriden is on the a45 (which I’m sure you know, hence my confusion).
 

Nick

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #124
I heard a while ago that brum owners wanted rid of sa but didn't think much of it.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #125
Nick said:
I heard a while ago that brum owners wanted rid of sa but didn't think much of it.
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There was years ago talk of building on the wheels site a multi purpose sports venue which came to nothing
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #126
Although I'm sceptical of this NEC idea, even for Birmingham let alone us, I suppose you could be around the M42/A45/A452. Unlikely but they could add in a station stop between Birm Int and Hampton in Arden. And of course the airport for all our jetsetting fans - maybe we'll get Birmingham Coventry Airport like Leeds Bradford?!

Could end up with Solihull there too how they're going lately.
 

covbromsgrove

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #127
ccfcway said:
A new stadium at nec ?, what would happen with SA and the new athletics stadium ?
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I believe it's being turned into a rugby stadium after the games and BCC are actively looking for a London team to relocate
 
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covbromsgrove

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #128
Living in Brum they have been talking about building a stadium near the NEC and Blues fans have been saying for years that they near a ground share because it would be too costly to run by themselves. When we knew we wouldn't be playing at the Ricoh I'm sure the Blues board took notice. This could actually be true and work.
 

Mcbean

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #129
currently NEC charges £12 for parking for an event - just highway robbery
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #130
Mcbean said:
currently NEC charges £12 for parking for an event - just highway robbery
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Isn’t that off highway robbery.
 
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covbromsgrove

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #131
IF a stadium was built next to the NEC it would possibly be able to have its own parking so they would charge less. Also, the train service is ideal.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #132
Mcbean said:
currently NEC charges £12 for parking for an event - just highway robbery
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It wouldn’t be actually at the NEC but where the national stadium was considered
 

Mcbean

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #133
Grendel said:
It wouldn’t be actually at the NEC but where the national stadium was considered
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Hopefully not a green stadium then as the Ricoh seems severely limited for people to get there - only 3000 or so they say parking places at £10 a shot for football but less for other events
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #134
ccfcway said:
Who owns it ?
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The NEC? Was owned by Birmingham council but they had to sell it to cover the cost of paying female staff the same as their male equivalents.

Sold it to Lloyds Bank for £300m in 2015. Lloyds have just sold it for £800m to an investment firm called Blackstone.

There's been some talk of a judicial review to see if price the council sold it at was too low, where have we heard that before? Doesn't seem much more than opposition councillors sounding off though.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #135
Surprised its taken this long for this to pop up on the radar. I guess Brum were hopeful they'd get a new ground out of the Commonwealth Games.

In many ways the NEC is ideal. You won't get a ground with better transport links. Over 16,500 parking spaces, even if its not strictly under the same ownership they'd open those up as its easy money. You've got Resorts World, a similar setup to the place next to Wembley, for pre and post match and they could even open up the Pavillon at the Arena as a fans zone.

Of course as much as there is that is good its not in Cov and also not in Brum and that overrides all the positives. Still other clubs do it and its not like we're spoilt for choice.
MalcSB said:
according to google maps, it only takes 5 minutes longer to nec from city centre than to the Ricoh.
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Less than 5 miles from the city boundary and less than 9 miles from the council house (would they still use that or would it be Friargate now - not that it makes much difference) which was the EFL's requirement, not that they would enforce that if it came to it.
MalcSB said:
How have Brighton survived?
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Last time we played at Brighton the official parking was in a random street miles away from the ground. You then had to get a bus!

Didn't seem to stop their fans turning up.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #136
Jcap said:
No in fact the opposite would be more effective. Have thousands of city fans descending on the council offices to remind them we are the city’s greatest sporting asset that they should be supporting - and then an hours worth of renditions of a certain none too complimentary song about the council, SISU & wasps. Oh and as a bonus as it’s at the council offices then you might even get the trust to turn up to do some hand shakes with their pal George.
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You can protest as much as you like, to the council it's water off a ducks back.

Because if they were BOTHERED they WOULDN'T have sold the Ricoh to the Rugby club.

 
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ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #137
Went to see lipzig v herta in Berlin last year. Very much felt a similar distance on the train from the central station to the ground than cov station to nec
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Aug 24, 2019
  • #138
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Eh? Whereabouts are we talking? NEC isn’t Coventry, the boundary is about where Meriden is on the a45 (which I’m sure you know, hence my confusion).
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Elmdon airport and land was owned by several councils and think it still is Coventry being one of them. From what I remember
 
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