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Match Thread Chesterfield - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 2nd Sep (9 Viewers)

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Mr Panda

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #491
I think its difficult to blame the partnership of McNulty and Beavon, to me they're untested because we provide them with absolutely nothing from our midfield. No balls into their feet, no lay offs.

I really struggle to see what our game plan is, we haven't an identity.

Start Andreu, two clear cut chances created through him when he came on.

Never have Stokes and Vincenti on the same side, you can get away with it if your LB is completely useless on the ball but not if both the left sided players cannot pass.

Nothing in the middle, you have Doyle trying killer balls over the top for McNulty. We haven't recruited wisely in the middle of the park if we're expecting Doyle to be creative.

Get six points in our next two consecutive home games and we'll forget about this, not the end of the world.
 
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sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #492
skybluetony176 said:
Guy on the phone in saying if it wasn't for Lee Burge we'd have lost the game 1-0.
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To counter that, Lee made a great save to stop a shot equally as good from McNulty so without him it could have been 1-0 us, or perhaps 1-1 maybe?
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #492
Gazolba said:
Many said that at the start of last season and we got relegated!
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Yes heard the" we brought well this season"
Sorry get rid of the lot fuckin shit.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #493
ccfcway said:
Guy on Cwr "the fans booing at the final whistle today were not booing the players, they were booing the owners"

As if. The fans were booing the players and management. Nothing whatsoever to do with sisu
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Can you speak for all 1400 ?
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #494
Nick said:
Christ I am going to agree with you.

People surely understand this squad we have is more than good enough to be in the playoffs at least this season.
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Pure conjecture !
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #495
Ashdown said:
Pure conjecture !
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What's conjecture about it?

Are there 7 better squads in the league?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #496
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
Yet to see us this season due to operation can I ask those who went has the squad improved from last season or not?
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From what I've seen I would say we are worse.
And that really hurts to say
 

Otis

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #497
sw88 said:
How long should we give them? 10 games?

I get this is League Two. I get it's not going to be pretty. And I'd love to see 1-0 wins and lots of them. But to do that we have to score!

Add to that your main striking threat missing opportunities like McNulty did, you know straight off it's going to be a difficult, long, frustrating season
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Thing is, a couple of changes and that could alter everything.

Wasn't there, but talk is of a lack of width and no overlapping and little pace.

Just a simple thing like replacing Stokes with Camwell could change the dynamics. The lad is quick, likes to overlap and has a great cross on him. Just a small change like that could make a hell of a difference.

Also, as has been said. Going from two defensive holding midfielders could also alter the dynamics too.

Sounds like changes are needed, but it is amazing what a change of formation, team selection and tactics can do.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #498
Nick said:
What's conjecture about it?

Are there 7 better squads in the league?
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It's just too early to make sweeping statements. It's only the best squad if it contains ALL the ingredients for success. At the moment I can see serious weak points in goal, midfield and up front ?!
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #499
AlansEyes said:
According to Tony Cottee, we were by far the better side and McNulty was the best player on the pitch. I get the impression that this thread doesn't agree...
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I wouldn't panic just yet - none of the supposed 'front runners' have really got off to a good start either.

I'll take the positive that we kept another clean sheet. But, it's now 3 consecutive league games without a goal - something needs to change.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #500
Ashdown said:
It's just too early to make sweeping statements. It's only the best squad if it contains ALL the ingredients for success. At the moment I can see serious weak points in goal, midfield and up front ?!
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No, I am talking in terms of the list of players.

You could have the best ingredients from the finest sources but if your chef doesn't seem to know what to do with them they will still taste shite.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #501
skyblueindorset said:
Perhaps he just likes to use 3 substitutes.
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Or to get an appearance bonus?
 

pusbccfc

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #502
Mr Panda said:
I think its difficult to blame the partnership of McNulty and Beavon, to me they're untested because we provide them with absolutely nothing from our midfield. No balls into their feet, no lay offs.

I really struggle to see what our game plan is, we haven't an identity.

Start Andreu, two clear cut chances created through him when he came on.

Never have Stokes and Vincenti on the same side, you can get away with it if your LB is completely useless on the ball but not if both the left sided players cannot pass.

Nothing in the middle, you have Doyle trying killer balls over the top for McNulty. We haven't recruited wisely in the middle of the park if we're expecting Doyle to be creative.

Get six points in our next two consecutive home games and we'll forget about this, not the end of the world.
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Laughable to think we'll get 6 points.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #503
Nick said:
What's conjecture about it?

Are there 7 better squads in the league?
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No. Currently there are nine.
 

Hullinho87

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #504
Nick said:
No, I am talking in terms of the list of players.

You could have the best ingredients from the finest sources but if your chef doesn't seem to know what to do with them they will still taste shite.
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I acknowledge that this is hypothetical. But I am interested in your reasoning (not a loaded question here) but let's say we got a new manager now and we (despite/inspite of good performances) we finished, say, 13th ... then what??
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #505
I know Beavon has some fans on here and I understand his game is to bring others into play rather than be the main man but his goalscoring record for us is shocking and it seems from the comments he's not impacting the game at all so I wonder what Robins sees in him. He's played 26 times for us and scored 4 goals
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #506
Hullinho87 said:
I acknowledge that this is hypothetical. But I am interested in your reasoning (not a loaded question here) but let's say we got a new manager now and we (despite/inspite of good performances) we finished, say, 13th ... then what??
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Then we would need to watch and see what was happening then.

It's quite obvious the system and setup isn't working, especially against teams down to 10 men. The subs he made were just like for like again. No intent, nobody to drive forward 10 yards in midfield or make space.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #507
MR "I'll take the point and move on and we will get better for that"
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #508
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I know Beavon has some fans on here and I understand his game is to bring others into play rather than be the main man but his goalscoring record for us is shocking and it seems from the comments he's not impacting the game at all so I wonder what Robins sees in him. He's played 26 times for us and scored 4 goals
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When he first game he made a difference I thought, but recently has been anonymous.

Today he was only seen when evatt was heading away above him. Whether he would be better in the channels I don't know.
 

covcity4life

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #509
Mcnulty unlucky. Will come good

Not sure what robins gameplan is. 4231 with hoof? Seems so ublike him. 60 miks vs 10 men but at no point 2 strikets upfront. Would have been my.move anyway

Overall take the positives. 2 wins 2 loases 1 draw. We r average rohht noe whilst being pretty solid with our losses coming from gk errors. Once we change oir atyacking build up play we will be ok
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #510
Clive Eakin has just said on CWR , I haven't been talking about cricket much because l'm talking about football ! QUOTE : The BRUMMIES cricket team are playing .
Who gives a f**K , it's a sky blues phone in !
 

Otis

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #511
'Mark McNulty is too good a striker to keep missing. He won't keep missing cos he's a top striker. '

Words along those lines.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #512
Nick said:
No, I am talking in terms of the list of players.

You could have the best ingredients from the finest sources but if your chef doesn't seem to know what to do with them they will still taste shite.
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A list of players means very little. Besides we are lacking some critical ingredients to continue with your analogy........A confident goal keeper, a creative midfielder and a big lump up front !
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #513
Robins:

Can tell that we've been in a 3 game winless run

Little bit reticent

Passed without too much quality

Nervy encounter

Had good chances

Their keepers made a good save

Most fell to McNulty

Outstanding run for one of his chances but failed to hit far lost

Another was crossed behind him (header)

Need to pick up points at home

Chesterfield stopped shipping goals today but we helped with that!

McNulty too good a striker to keep missing.

Had 1 Goal disallowed

Hard fought game

Not saying it's good performance but will take the point and we will get better

Will work hard from here

Got anxiety of 3 defeats and it was clear

Jones - didn't get man sent off; it was a foul, 2nd yellow and therefore red

Jones had a decent game but still things to work on. Is asking right questions and coming out of shell

Jones was getting annoyed

Need to make pitches as big as we can but we were too laboured

Only 5 games in

If don't win all 5, you're an idiot

Really good / comfortable squad

Quality is there. Normally better than that

As soon as McNulty clicks he'll score more

Davies - aggressive. Need to bolster squad as have injuries

Willis took a whack

Doyle and Stokes became too anxious at the end

Rod Injury - been out for a while but is back on training field. Was expecting him to be out for 12 weeks due to initial diagnosis but since heard better news
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #514
Ashdown said:
A list of players means very little. Besides we are lacking some critical ingredients to continue with your analogy........A confident goal keeper, a creative midfielder and a big lump up front !
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We had both a creative midfielder and big striker on the bench.

We had 2 defensive midfielders and 2 small strikers on the pitch. We were expecting Doyle to make defence splitting passes though 6 of their players.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #515
Heard you on the texts Nick!

We haven't scored in however many hours and we're playing two holding mids. Madness.

Is Andreu not match fit or something?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #516
shmmeee said:
Heard you on the texts Nick!

We haven't scored in however many hours and we're playing two holding mids. Madness.

Is Andreu not match fit or something?
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Did they read it out? Think I just said why play 2 defensive midfielders when they go down to 10 and are holding on.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #517
Nick said:
We had both a creative midfielder and big striker on the bench.

We had 2 defensive midfielders and 2 small strikers on the pitch. We were expecting Doyle to make defence splitting passes though 6 of their players.
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Doyle.....I'm not sure I was Ha ha :joyful:
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #518
Nick said:
Did they read it out? Think I just said why play 2 defensive midfielders when they go down to 10 and are holding on.
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Yeah they did "from SKyBluesTalk"
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #519
I know it's all gloom and doom on here tonight and I myself didn't go to the game, but McNulty is missing quite a few chances.

Just him getting his shooting boots on could make a world of difference to our fortunes.

MR has faith he will come good. I still trust MR.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #520
Mr Panda said:
I think its difficult to blame the partnership of McNulty and Beavon, to me they're untested because we provide them with absolutely nothing from our midfield. No balls into their feet, no lay offs.

I really struggle to see what our game plan is, we haven't an identity.

Start Andreu, two clear cut chances created through him when he came on.

Never have Stokes and Vincenti on the same side, you can get away with it if your LB is completely useless on the ball but not if both the left sided players cannot pass.

Nothing in the middle, you have Doyle trying killer balls over the top for McNulty. We haven't recruited wisely in the middle of the park if we're expecting Doyle to be creative.

Get six points in our next two consecutive home games and we'll forget about this, not the end of the world.
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they did in the first 2 games and produced little apart from McNultys bit of opportunism against Grimsby.
Them 2 together isn't working out.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #521
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I know Beavon has some fans on here and I understand his game is to bring others into play rather than be the main man but his goalscoring record for us is shocking and it seems from the comments he's not impacting the game at all so I wonder what Robins sees in him. He's played 26 times for us and scored 4 goals
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But he also has to be able to score as no point in bringing others in that don't score either, to carry a player like him you needs goals from elsewhere. To me it was bizarre extending his contract his career record is disgraceful and getting worse here.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #522
Otis said:
I know it's all gloom and doom on here tonight
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Tonight ?. It's been like this since the 3rd game of the season
 

skybluedan

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #523
Ah well you win some you lose some


Edit or draw some
 

Monkeyface

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #524
ccfcway said:
Tonight ?. It's been like this since the 3rd game of the season
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I know. You can't understand some people can you? There is absolutely nothing to be frustrated about.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #525
sw88 said:
If don't win all 5, you're an idiot
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It is only 5 games but nobody was demanding no points dropped. Our last 3 results are 2 losses and a draw against 10 men. 0 scored and conceded 3. That has to be a cause for concern.

Over a season that would be 55 points, nowhere near top half let alone promotion. In fact teams have gone down on 50 and 51 points in the not too distant past.

We've got a huge problem scoring goals and if you look at the options we have to change things its hard to see where they're coming from unless Ponticelli comes in and bags 20.
 
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