Charlie Kirk Shot (15 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

Not kidding I've just seen 3 U.S flags hung near me.

Not sure if theres a correlation or I have some proud Americans near me

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Exactly my point. There wouldn't ever be a fascist society due to the heinous and vile crimes against humanity committed throughout history by fascist regimes.

Also, not all Conservatives are fascists.

It's still a credible example though that highlights the memory and acts of atrocity committed under communist regimes are still being whitewashed in the West.

Bit of a strange one considering that the West spent a good 45 years after WW2 engaged in proxy conflicts with either the USSR or China and was on the brink of nuclear war with the Soviets more than once. Agree it does need looking at.

 

[Grendel]

Whatever way they want to spin it they were communist.

The whole issue with communism it that it can never work because as a system it's intrinsically flawed.

It breeds corruption and authoritarianism which gives license to the ruling party to control and repress the population, squashes any form of dissent and basically allows leaders to accumulate both wealth and power for themselves at the expense of the general public.

By your own argument I can openly be a fascist but a nice one because I hate Hitler and Mussolini.

Left wing students in the 80’s used to have Mao T shirts and more famously the Cuban with a Frank Spencer beret (who said black people are sub human monkeys who get drunk everyday) - yet it was never challenged. I think if someone wore a Hitler t shirt or a swastika it might have been different

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

Don't see the expectation of an outpouring of grief for anyone else. Not sure why this guy, who had some pretty horrific views, should be different to anyone else.

But we have people who, if you don't act like the man was a saint, equate it to you celebrating his death.

Settle down Dave. Because some complete lunatic has shot him if anyone now highlights his views on stoning gays, or forcing 10 year old rape victims to give birth, then they're the problem apparently

 

[David O'Day]

Ah yes. Communists are always portrayed as being ‘good’.

Come on Terry you know Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot are always painted in the most positive of lights.

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Left wing students in the 80’s used to have Mao T shirts and more famously the Cuban with a Frank Spencer beret (who said black people are sub human monkeys who get drunk everyday) - yet it was never challenged. I think if someone wore a Hitler t shirt or a swastika it might have been different

Some Left wing people wear similar T-shirts now right? Che Guevara being the obvious ‘pin up’. I think there’s a certain irony in the capitalisation/commercialisation of such things.

Maybe it’s about the ideologies behind Communism that’s appealing. In practice it doesn’t look too good.

 

[Sick Boy]

Settle down Dave. Because some complete lunatic has shot him if anyone now highlights his views on stoning gays, or forcing 10 year old rape victims to give birth, then they're the problem apparently

The 10 year old rape victim stuff was genuinely twisted.

 

[Grendel]

Come on Terry you know Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot are always painted in the most positive of lights.

Mao is lauded in China and apparently did more good than harm

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Mao is lauded in China and apparently did more good than harm

I don’t know too much about it but wasn’t the area where China now is basically kicking the shit out of each other for centuries?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I've also seen Luigi Mangione being brought up a lot as an example of 'radical left' violence, on the basis of not much other than who he killed. His political views were actually all over the place, but it's very revealing that someone is assumed to be on the 'radical left' because his target was involved in private health insurance which ruins the lives of many over there regardless of political affiliation.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I've also seen Luigi Mangione being brought up a lot as an example of 'radical left' violence, on the basis of not much other than who he killed. His political views were actually all over the place, but it's very revealing that someone is assumed to be on the 'radical left' because his target was involved in private health insurance which ruins the lives of many over there regardless of political affiliation.

He's tagged with being radical left as he is a good looking gen z aged man

 

[David O'Day]

Mao is lauded in China and apparently did more good than harm

And? Is the whole world China or was I talking about the general world view on these people.

There's a section of Russian society that whitewashes Stalin but doesn't mean he isn't seen as monster by most of the world.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Bit of a strange one considering that the West spent a good 45 years after WW2 engaged in proxy conflicts with either the USSR or China and was on the brink of nuclear war with the Soviets more than once. Agree it does need looking at.

It's nothing more than anti-capitalist tripe pushed by the far left which is then propagandised to impressionable individuals which like to throw words around like fascist at people that have opposing views - again as I said despite not knowing what that even means.

Nor do they have a grasp or understanding of what communism is they just think it's cool to call themselves a 'commie' because they hate big corporations.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He's tagged with being radical left as he is a good looking gen z aged man

Not often that a murderer sets multiple fashion trends.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Not often that a murderer sets multiple fashion trends.

Very handsome compared to Kyle Rittenhouse

 

[Sick Boy]

It's nothing more than anti-capitalist tripe pushed by the far left which is then propagandised to impressionable individuals which like to throw words around like fascist at people that have opposing views - again as I said despite not knowing what that even means.

Nor do they have a grasp or understanding of what communism is they just think it's cool to call themselves a 'commie' because they hate big corporations.

Where do you meet all these people?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's nothing more than anti-capitalist tripe pushed by the far left which is then propagandised to impressionable individuals which like to throw words around like fascist at people that have opposing views.

Nor do they have a grasp or understanding of what communism is it's just cool to call themselves a 'commie' because they hate big corporations.

Again, I wouldn't take student politics all that seriously. Think for a lot it's something to get out of your system before getting a bit more serious later.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Very handsome compared to Kyle Rittenhouse

Ah I forgot about him. Probably because he wasn't as handsome.

 

[LarryGrayson]

And? Is the whole world China or was I talking about the general world view on these people.

There's a section of Russian society that whitewashes Stalin but doesn't mean he isn't seen as monster by most of the world.

it the culture of fear not the true believes

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Again, I wouldn't take student politics all that seriously. Think for a lot it's something to get out of your system before getting a bit more serious later.

I mean, seemingly, Charlie Kirk was killed by someone of 'student age', and if reports are indeed true of their motives and political persuasion, I think it's something that probably should be taken more seriously.

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

Apparently its impossible for me to a) think Stalin was a bloodthirsty mass murderer but also b) cast my vote for democratic parties of the left.

And my student days are fucking long gone so go figure

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I mean, seemingly, Charlie Kirk was killed by someone of 'student age', and if reports are indeed true of their motives and political persuasion, I think it's something that probably should be taken more seriously.

Can draw no conclusions until he's apprehended, but with evidence of decoys and what looks like a getaway plane, it looks like it'll be more complicated than a single rogue actor as was the case for Trump

 

[fatso]

The Colorado shooting was pushed down the headlines because of this

To be fair, an assassination is much bigger news. And also, there's been so many school shootings, it's like it's become the norm and certainly expected

This Kirk thing was totally unexpected

I didn't know anything about him, but now seeing his views on stuff, he seems like he was a pretty awful human being. His views on race for a start. Very racist opinions. But you have to debate these things out. You can't just go round shooting people you disagree with.

You have to talk them down and expose them for what they are and not make martyrs out of them

What did he say that you disagreed with out of interest?

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Where do you meet all these people?

I spend a lot of time down in London near Trafalgar Square and seen the Revolutionary Communist Party protesting about something likely irrelevant several times in recent years. One was only a few months ago.

 

[Sick Boy]

I spend a lot of time down in London near Trafalgar Square and seen the Revolutionary Communist Party protesting about something likely irrelevant several times in recent years. One was only a few months ago.

I see.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Can draw no conclusions until he's apprehended, but with evidence of decoys and what looks like a getaway plane, it looks like it'll be more complicated than a single rogue actor as was the case for Trump

Is there hard evidence? As you so aptly put you can't draw conclusions until all the facts are laid bare.

 

[David O'Day]

I spend a lot of time down in London near Trafalgar Square and seen the Revolutionary Communist Party protesting about something likely irrelevant several times in recent years. One was only a few months ago.

Is the RCP still going?

They all strangely got right wing and end up in the Brexit Party

 

[fatso]

Is this the thread where all the people who spend their day being racist and calling everyone who disagrees with them pedos decide that actually we should be nice to everyone? Decided civility in politics is good now actually?

Sorry if you’re a turbo c**t all day who advocates for oppressive laws on people just for the colour of their skin or sex people will in fact not be sad when you die.

I get why this is an upsetting message for a few on here.

Its funny how the political left preach tolerance etc, but are incredibly quick to cancel anyone who has a different political outlook, and if they cant cancel they'll imprison, and if that doesn't work they'll shoot the fuckers!!!

2 unsuccessful assassination attempts on president Trump (so far) and now the murder of a young family man who was More than willing to peacefully debate anyone at anytime.

No assassination attempts on president Biden though, strange that???

There's only one side of politics that wants to permanently shut down opposing voices, and crush freedom of speech, and its the side that reports to practice tolerance and acceptance!!!

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Is the RCP still going?

They all strangely got right wing and end up in the Brexit Party

Pretty sure it was them unless it was another Communist-led party. Either way in the protest a few months ago there were hundreds of people in attendance with massive red flags with the hammer and sickle emblem emblazoned on them.

 

[Sick Boy]

There's only one side of politics that wants to permanently shut down opposing voices, and crush freedom of speech, and its the side that reports to practice tolerance and acceptance!!!

Fucking hell.

 

[Briles]

Can draw no conclusions until he's apprehended, but with evidence of decoys and what looks like a getaway plane, it looks like it'll be more complicated than a single rogue actor as was the case for Trump

Christ

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

What did he say that you disagreed with out of interest?

Thought I'd chime in as I've watched a few clips of him recently.

The standout ones from what I've seen literally within the past 8 hours is he said that George Floyd died of a Fentanyl overdose not by being kneeled on for 10 minutes, why male suicide is increasing is because males are becoming more effeminate, that gun-related deaths have to be accepted if the Second Amendment is to be preserved etc, that if his daughter was raped that in line with his pro-life views said baby would be delivered.

The list could genuinely go on. His views were completely batshit.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Christ

Don’t think he did it

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Don’t think he did it

The culprits dont believe he is the son of God though.

 

[Briles]

Its funny how the political left preach tolerance etc, but are incredibly quick to cancel anyone who has a different political outlook, and if they cant cancel they'll imprison, and if that doesn't work they'll shoot the fuckers!!!

2 unsuccessful assassination attempts on president Trump (so far) and now the murder of a young family man who was More than willing to peacefully debate anyone at anytime.

No assassination attempts on president Biden though, strange that???

There's only one side of politics that wants to permanently shut down opposing voices, and crush freedom of speech, and its the side that reports to practice tolerance and acceptance!!!

Tbf there are 2 sides to the coin. On the far left, you have a plethora of people who are confused about their own identity and do not have the ability to articulate their feelings and therefore lash out at anyone who's not a minority. Then you have the far right, who embrace who they are and lash out at anyone who's different. Its a lovely world