Gynnsthetonic
Well-Known Member
Well you've just said it
Well you've just said itDoes anyone in the UK actually say "leftist"?
It's like those who say period rather than full stop.Well you've just said it
If you believe what you read on twitter rather than what's reported, then politely, your opinion counts for shit.
Unlike the fat bloke down the pub you're listening to for your facts, journalists generally do proper research. If you can prove the article to be incorrect, then feel free to put your own links up.
All you're actually doing here is proving that your own prejudice trumps actual facts. It's a really common mistake for fans of far right rhetoric in general.
So, prove me wrong , as a man once said. Put some evidence of your own up, or quit feckin' whining about "left wing rags" when you're faced with an uncomfortable fact.
Thing is, if we go any of the way the US is heading, people like that guy at the front, would end up out of the country. They are talking about heritage rather than birthright aren't they.
I was on the last one and no trouble, a few mates went no trouble. They'll always be a few who want trouble same as a football match. On the whole it was a peaceful day. From actual people who were there. Pensioners, women, people of colour. If you want to just believe what's said in the Guardian and your Blue Sky then crack on. Your in the minority.
The facts were around Notting Hill and the way arrests are just brushed aside.
The police were looking for people to arrest is just a bizarre statement. Why take knives and sell drugs?
Even at the Palestine action protest 17 were arrested for assaulting the police. Don’t tell me - they are just to justify arresting 800 other law breakers.
I simply cannot get my head around why anyone would support Timmy Robinson.I just want facts mate. Again, you can read the Guardian article for yourself. Based on actual police data. Can you disprove it or not, simple question?
If you don't answer it's fair to assume you're just wibbling.
As for marches organised by a lying, racist, serial criminal, resulting in violence, fuck me, why would that surprise anyone given his history? You're ok with Tommy though, obviously...
Let's not forget Bannon's salute as well. The guy's a scumbag.Thing is, if we go any of the way the US is heading, people like that guy at the front, would end up out of the country. They are talking about heritage rather than birthright aren't they.
Glad those people seem happy and smiley. The downside side is the speakers they had on the platform, who are so filled with hate (Katie Hopkins, Laurence Fox, Steve Bannon, Brian Tamaki etc.)
For it to be more valid, they need sensible, respected orators onboard.
Bannon has a criminal record, Robinson has a criminal record, Katie Hopkins mocked disabled people and Brian Tamaki, said that earthquakes could be caused by homosexuality. Not sure what the latest on Laurence Fox is, but hasn't he been charged for sharing upskirt photos?
Many of people who are speaking are either criminal, or just vile people.
If it's all supposed to be about love and community, let's have some loving people on the podiums and not hear the likes of Musk saying stuff like fight or die.
I am sure there were many just normal, every day folk at this rally, but unfortunately, simply by association, they will be labelled as fascist and far right.
If they are decent people at the rally, get decent people up on the podiums.
I won't be reading the Guatdian as it's all one sided to the left. Yes I'm OK with Tommy RobinsonI just want facts mate. Again, you can read the Guardian article for yourself. Based on actual police data. Can you disprove it or not, simple question?
If you don't answer it's fair to assume you're just wibbling.
As for marches organised by a lying, racist, serial criminal, resulting in violence, fuck me, why would that surprise anyone given his history? You're ok with Tommy though, obviously...
If you believe what you read on twitter rather than what's reported, then politely, your opinion counts for shit.
Unlike the fat bloke down the pub you're listening to for your facts, journalists generally do proper research. If you can prove the article to be incorrect, then feel free to put your own links up.
All you're actually doing here is proving that your own prejudice trumps actual facts. It's a really common mistake for fans of far right rhetoric in general.
So, prove me wrong , as a man once said. Put some evidence of your own up, or quit feckin' whining about "left wing rags" when you're faced with an uncomfortable fact.
Thing is, if we go any of the way the US is heading, people like that guy at the front, would end up out of the country. They are talking about heritage rather than birthright aren't they.
Glad those people seem happy and smiley. The downside side is the speakers they had on the platform, who are so filled with hate (Katie Hopkins, Laurence Fox, Steve Bannon, Brian Tamaki etc.)
For it to be more valid, they need sensible, respected orators onboard.
Bannon has a criminal record, Robinson has a criminal record, Katie Hopkins mocked disabled people and Brian Tamaki, said that earthquakes could be caused by homosexuality. Not sure what the latest on Laurence Fox is, but hasn't he been charged for sharing upskirt photos?
Many of people who are speaking are either criminal, or just vile people.
If it's all supposed to be about love and community, let's have some loving people on the podiums and not hear the likes of Musk saying stuff like fight or die.
I am sure there were many just normal, every day folk at this rally, but unfortunately, simply by association, they will be labelled as fascist and far right.
If they are decent people at the rally, get decent people up on the podiums.
I just want facts mate. Again, you can read the Guardian article for yourself. Based on actual police data. Can you disprove it or not, simple question?
If you don't answer it's fair to assume you're just wibbling.
As for marches organised by a lying, racist, serial criminal, resulting in violence, fuck me, why would that surprise anyone given his history? You're ok with Tommy though, obviously...
She's not is she? Seriously?I am amazed Katie Hopkins now is a stand up comedian and sells out venues every year
She's not is she? Seriously?
I even put in that it is over a couple of days.So just to provide some balance, at Notting Hill the police went geared up to arrest people.
So they were using knife detecting archways and facial recognition etc., and actively looking for drug dealing etc..
Also the carnival is over two days and has over two million attendees.
At the Tommy Robinson support march, the police weren't interested in making arrests. Just in maintaing public order, or trying to. So no knife arches, no facial recognition, no searching for drugs, outstanding warrants, etc. etc..
I also don't believe there was any concerted attempt to attack the police at Notting Hill. There clearly was at the Tommy march.
Basically then, and as politely as I can put it, this is a fatuous argument - you're comparing apples with oranges.
Let's not bullshit each other. Violence at rallies organised by Tommy and his ilk is absolutely par for the course. Trying to minimise it by saying, but look at Notting Hill, is a pretty weak argument.
As it turns out, people who violently kick off at the police, and immigrants etc., seem to have a remarkably disproportionate record of previous offending, particularly when it comes to domestic abuse.
Does flag shagging lead to wife beating, I wonder, or is it the other way around?
Two in five arrested for last summer’s UK riots had been reported for domestic abuse
Police data indicates overlaps between public violent disorder and domestic violence and abusewww.theguardian.com
He said yesterday he’d be happy with a trans ‘woman’ in a ladies toilet @duffer is a weirdo. I know if I had a daughter I wouldn’t want a biological man in the same toilet as her. It’s called a safe space for biological women for a reasonNot sure why anyone replies to him, he's an absolute nause.
‘The police went geared up to arrest people’ so you think the police shouldn’t have actively been looking for people with knives or drugs then? Angry little weirdo. Making a right clown of yourself this morning mr dufferSo just to provide some balance, at Notting Hill the police went geared up to arrest people.
So they were using knife detecting archways and facial recognition etc., and actively looking for drug dealing etc..
Why are you ok being led by such a flawed violent manI won't be reading the Guatdian as it's all one sided to the left. Yes I'm OK with Tommy Robinson
I'm not being led by him, I don't agree with everything he's spouts, it's his opinions and some I agree with. I'm not a knuckle dragging neanderthal either. I'm a hard working family guy with white and ethnic friends and acquaintances. Look at the pictures of the people in the rally on Saturday. You'd be surprisedWhy are you ok being led by such a flawed violent man
This is completely bizarreI mean, nothing represents Uniting Britain/Tackling the channel boats more than.....
....Maori's ripping up a Palestinian flag!?!?
I don’t think so if 1 in 3 are voting for them of course that includes all of usI'm not being led by him, I don't agree with everything he's spouts, it's his opinions and some I agree with. I'm not a knuckle dragging neanderthal either. I'm a hard working family guy with white and ethnic friends and acquaintances. Look at the pictures of the people in the rally on Saturday. You'd be surprised
I'm quite proud that this country, our flags and identity still mean something to peopleWhy are you ok being led by such a flawed violent man
So just to provide some balance, at Notting Hill the police went geared up to arrest people.
So they were using knife detecting archways and facial recognition etc., and actively looking for drug dealing etc..
Also the carnival is over two days and has over two million attendees.
At the Tommy Robinson support march, the police weren't interested in making arrests. Just in maintaing public order, or trying to. So no knife arches, no facial recognition, no searching for drugs, outstanding warrants, etc. etc..
I also don't believe there was any concerted attempt to attack the police at Notting Hill. There clearly was at the Tommy march.
Basically then, and as politely as I can put it, this is a fatuous argument - you're comparing apples with oranges.
Let's not bullshit each other. Violence at rallies organised by Tommy and his ilk is absolutely par for the course. Trying to minimise it by saying, but look at Notting Hill, is a pretty weak argument.
As it turns out, people who violently kick off at the police, and immigrants etc., seem to have a remarkably disproportionate record of previous offending, particularly when it comes to domestic abuse.
Does flag shagging lead to wife beating, I wonder, or is it the other way around?
Two in five arrested for last summer’s UK riots had been reported for domestic abuse
Police data indicates overlaps between public violent disorder and domestic violence and abusewww.theguardian.com
I’m hugely proud of our country never really understood the flag stuff apart from maybe major sporting eventsI'm quite proud that this country, our flags and identity still mean something to people
This the twat who railed against "the fascist regime" and then voted for one?View attachment 46069Sums you up
You were typically rude about someones level of intelligence in their argument 'like a 6th form report'. Thanks for confirmation that A levels are not always a good measure of intelligence, common sense and decency.3 Charles. Why do you ask?
She is not funny and just outright nasty. Brings in the coffers from her disciples though.I am amazed Katie Hopkins now is a stand up comedian and sells out venues every year
The Union Jack and St George's Cross, Welsh Dragon, ScotiSoltire are part of our identity, same as every other countries flag. Why people feel the need to tear them down stamp on them set fire to them absolutely amazes me.I’m hugely proud of our country never really understood the flag stuff apart from maybe major sporting events
That pride is not about isolating us from the challenges around the rest of the world though or showing itself in aggressive masculinity
But what about his criminal record, (and tbe fact he's a Luton fan?).I'm quite proud that this country, our flags and identity still mean something to people
If someone put up a Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish flag on a lampost in Tile Hill, I know what the response would be.The Union Jack and St George's Cross, Welsh Dragon, ScotiSoltire are part of our identity, same as every other countries flag. Why people feel the need to tear them down stamp on them set fire to them absolutely amazes me.
She is not funny and just outright nasty. Brings in the coffers from her disciples though.
No did you see her somewhere? I wish Id gone to see how bad it is. The 'jokes' are so cringe and unfunny it's bizzare why people part with their cash. Most with 3 A-levels in Sevenoaks would be embarrassed they hosted her.Did you attend the Sevenoaks gig Charles? Not impressed?
Taking the piss out of someone with 3 a-levels, I thought you were this kind loving caring human who has ‘decency’ I do feel sorry for someone that is as hateful as yourselfNo did you see her somewhere? I wish Id gone to see how bad it is. The 'jokes' are so cringe and unfunny it's bizzare why people part with their cash. Most with 3 A-levels in Sevenoaks would be embarrassed.
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