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Chaplin Disallowed Goal (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Sep 16, 2018
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Otis

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #36
Adge said:
And there you have it-the best referees are always in the stands and know best.
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No, totally disagree. Not at all and I am not one of these always screaming at the ref and I never feel I always know best.

The player clearly took the ball out of play though. No idea how the linesman didn't see it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #37
jordan210 said:
If you take a screenshot from the match and put a line across. about a 5th of his head is offside. So very very tight and you would not have seen it with a naked eye. Linesman should have given benefit to striker.
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Surely his arm would have been off rather than the top of his head?
 

Bertola

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #38
Nick said:
Surely his arm would have been off rather than the top of his head?
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Isn't the rule, that it has to be part of the body that you can play the ball with? If that's the case then an arm can't be offside (although a shoulder could)
 
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Amcoventry

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #39
who cares, we won
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #40
I keep seeing people use this as the main example for 'poor refereeing'. I *think* it's onside but it's very close. As someone previously mentioned, the ball that went about a foot and a half out for a goal kick was much worse officiating.
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #41
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
I keep seeing people use this as the main example for 'poor refereeing'. I *think* it's onside but it's very close. As someone previously mentioned, the ball that went about a foot and a half out for a goal kick was much worse officiating.
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Agree.

I haven't had a moan about the Chaplin 'goal' because you can see it was a close call and can see why the official flagged.

The ball over the line was just very bad officiating.
 

jordan210

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #42
Nick said:
Surely his arm would have been off rather than the top of his head?
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I’m just going by the image. But arm can’t be offside as you can play the ball using an arm. Has to be a playable part of the body.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #43
I just meant the line, it isn't going in the right perspective.
 

jordan210

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #44
Nick said:
I just meant the line, it isn't going in the right perspective.
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I used the goal line. As the constant. the only straight line on that camera angle. Shows the linesman would not have had a clue
 
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Sicov11

Member
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #45
offside or not, he fouled two of their players in the build up so overall the correct outcome. Cracking finish though
 

Mcbean

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #46
Goal for me - Lino flagging the ref as his hamstring went and he was using for balance - too embarrassed to back down
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #47
Let's move on, getting all Notts County. We won the game.
 

Adge

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #48
Otis said:
No, totally disagree. Not at all and I am not one of these always screaming at the ref and I never feel I always know best.

The player clearly took the ball out of play though. No idea how the linesman didn't see it.
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You have just answered it there-how can he give it if he didn’t see it!
 
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Nick

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #49
Adge said:
You have just answered it there-how can he give it if he didn’t see it!
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In which case, why didn't he see it?
 

Otis

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #50
Nick said:
In which case, why didn't he see it?
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Exactly.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #51
Nick said:
In which case, why didn't he see it?
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I actually never criticise officials but the guy who ran that like was just terrible. He was forever behind play and just was totally incompetent
 

Otis

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #52
Grendel said:
I actually never criticise officials but the guy who ran that like was just terrible. He was forever behind play and just was totally incompetent
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Agree. He had a very bad game.
 

Nick

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #53
Grendel said:
I actually never criticise officials but the guy who ran that like was just terrible. He was forever behind play and just was totally incompetent
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They were all pretty bad, could tell in the warmup they were all pretty unfit as well.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #54
Nick said:
They were all pretty bad, could tell in the warmup they were all pretty unfit as well.
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Yeah, noticed that. A lot of puffing and panting.
 

Adge

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #55
Nick said:
In which case, why didn't he see it?
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Because they are human.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #56
Adge said:
Because they are human.
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In which case they weren't doing their job properly, it's pretty simple to watch whether a ball crosses a line or not isn't it?

Maybe if the 3 of them laid off the food they would have kept up with the game a bit better.
 

Adge

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #57
Nick said:
In which case they weren't doing their job properly, it's pretty simple to watch whether a ball crosses a line or not isn't it?

Maybe if the 3 of them laid off the food they would have kept up with the game a bit better.
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Again, another blinkered view from the stands. Have you ever tried or thought about taking up the whistle?
 
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MatthewWallis

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #58
Nick said:
In which case they weren't doing their job properly, it's pretty simple to watch whether a ball crosses a line or not isn't it?

Maybe if the 3 of them laid off the food they would have kept up with the game a bit better.
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The lino in the wolves game yesterday clearly missed the ball going over the line despite being right next to it. The Lino in the Liverpool game didn’t flag for a goal because he didn’t think it crossed the line when it did. Both of them were fit, so sometimes it’s just human error.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #59
MatthewWallis said:
The lino in the wolves game yesterday clearly missed the ball going over the line despite being right next to it. The Lino in the Liverpool game didn’t flag for a goal because he didn’t think it crossed the line when it did. Both of them were fit, so sometimes it’s just human error.
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We need a better class of human then.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #60
Adge said:
Again, another blinkered view from the stands. Have you ever tried or thought about taking up the whistle?
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What's blinkered about it?

I can understand if it's a goal line scramble with loads of bodies in the way but not the basics.

No, why would I want to be a ref when I would just play instead?
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #61
What about the corner given to Barnsley towards the end when it was clear their player touched it last!? The ref & assistant guessed Hyam touched it but in truth he wasn't even close. Could have cost us the game.
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #62
Nick said:
What's blinkered about it?

I can understand if it's a goal line scramble with loads of bodies in the way but not the basics.

No, why would I want to be a ref when I would just play instead?
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To still be involved in the game we all live and breathe when your playing days come to an end.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #63
jordan210 said:
If you take a screenshot from the match and put a line across. about a 5th of his head is offside. So very very tight and you would not have seen it with a naked eye. Linesman should have given benefit to striker.
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That line is proper squiffy, should be parallel with the goal are and penalty area lines.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #64
Can’t really tell either way from that camera angle but whether on or off side it was a close call. Took his shot well though which bodes well moving forward.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #65
Otis said:
No, you are reading me wrong, I am talking about the goalkick that should have been.

Not talking about the offside.
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My bad
 
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #66
Here's my line. It clearly shows Charlie is onside!
 
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #67
I've just played the video again. Definitely onside!
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sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #68
Adge said:
Again, another blinkered view from the stands. Have you ever tried or thought about taking up the whistle?
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I’d love to see Doyle have a go at officiating after he hangs up his playing boots! He’s spent his career reffing games from the midfield position, I’d love to see how he would actually get on as the actual man in the middle
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #69
sw88 said:
I’d love to see Doyle have a go at officiating after he hangs up his playing boots! He’s spent his career reffing games from the midfield position, I’d love to see how he would actually get on as the actual man in the middle
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Not just him mate-lots of “experts” who seem to know the Laws of the Games better than the officials and take as gospel what is said on the radio and pundits alike on Match of the day.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 17, 2018
  • #70
You must have played professional football then Adge if those who haven’t refereed before can’t comment on an officials peformance?
 
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