Championship thread 25/26! (46 Viewers)

[Travs]

I think its pretty universally regarded that American influence in UK/European football is a bad thing.

 

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[clint van damme]

Again, it’s not Wrexham doing it is it though. They could’ve picked basically any club and done the same. There is nothing about Wrexham itself that has driven that growth, as you say it’s just a vehicle for the owners to grow their brand.

And if they'd picked us we'd all be going to games dressed as deadpool and drinking in Paddys pub (formerly the Anecdote)

 

[viridisman]

Again, it’s not Wrexham doing it is it though. They could’ve picked basically any club and done the same. There is nothing about Wrexham itself that has driven that growth, as you say it’s just a vehicle for the owners to grow their brand.

100%
The second those two sell the club, sponsor appeal falls out it's arse. Along with their TV show, which wouldn't exist if not for a sweetener deal for Reynolds from Disney

 

[robbiethemole]

Just seen lots of punters are lumping on Ipswich to win the title after Saturdays results!! No wonder you never see a poor bookie

 

[skybluecam]

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The second those two sell the club, sponsor appeal falls out it's arse. Along with their TV show, which wouldn't exist if not for a sweetener deal for Reynolds from Disney

Yeah if Rob and Ryan pulled out tomorrow it would collapse like a house of cards.

 

[clint van damme]

Yeah if Rob and Ryan pulled out tomorrow it would collapse like a house of cards.

That could be said for a lot of clubs with rich owners, though I doubt the Roberts family would allow it to collapse, though they may have to revise their ambitions

 

[Shannerz]

Albuquerque

I hope I'm not the only this gives ear-worm to.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Again, it’s not Wrexham doing it is it though. They could’ve picked basically any club and done the same. There is nothing about Wrexham itself that has driven that growth, as you say it’s just a vehicle for the owners to grow their brand.

Quite possibly. But no club is able to succeed on its own so your point is largely redundant. The owner is pretty much always the catalyst behind whatever success is achieved.

Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford wouldn't be anywhere near the PL if it wasn't for wealthy benefactors pumping money in.

Man City or Chelsea wouldn't have won the trophies they have done over the past 20 years without their owners. I'd throw Leicester into that mix as well.

Yeah if Rob and Ryan pulled out tomorrow it would collapse like a house of cards.

In the most recent full reporting cycle (2023/24 financial year), only 15 out of 92 pro english clubs made a profit. That means if every owner from England's top four divisions pulled out tomorrow nearly 85% of those clubs within those leagues wouldn't be able to continue operating.

While it's within Reynold's and McElhenney's interest to ensure the staggering commercial revenue Wrexham generates continues, they seem to be looking to use it as a vehicle to achieving success rather than be permanently reliant on it long-term. I suspect there's a lot going on in the background to ensure that if it did dip they wouldn't be completely caught out in the short term.

Hence why they've started bringing in external investors.

 

[Mcbean]

To be fair to deadpool their income must be within the club to count - the fact that they already have 11 ty billion followers in the US - should they reach the Prem their tickets will become golden tickets for those visiting from across the pond

 

[clint van damme]

Quite possibly. But no club is able to succeed on its own so your point is largely redundant. The owner is pretty much always the catalyst behind whatever success is achieved.

Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford wouldn't be anywhere near the PL if it wasn't for wealthy benefactors pumping money in.

Man City or Chelsea wouldn't have won the trophies they have done over the past 20 years without their owners. I'd throw Leicester into that mix as well.



In the most recent full reporting cycle (2023/24 financial year), only 15 out of 92 pro english clubs made a profit. That means if every owner from England's top four divisions pulled out tomorrow nearly 85% of those clubs within those leagues wouldn't be able to continue operating.

While it's within Reynold's and McElhenney's interest to ensure the staggering commercial revenue Wrexham generates continues, they seem to be looking to use it as a vehicle to achieving success rather than be permanently reliant on it long-term. I suspect there's a lot going on in the background to ensure that if it did dip they wouldn't be completely caught out in the short term.

Hence why they've started bringing in external investors.

If King brings in partners akin to the two fellas at Wrexham, (and I'm sure he's looking for investment), and we stay up as a result I doubt too many on here would complain.

I'm genuinely bemused by what some people on here deem as acceptable owners.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

If King brings in partners akin to the two fellas at Wrexham, (and I'm sure he's looking for investment), and we stay up as a result I doubt too many on here would complain.

I'm genuinely bemused by what some people on here deem as acceptable owners.

Well I think its more the circus around it.

If King brought in Adam Sandler as an investor and we got him commentating on our games on Sky I'd be embarrassed.

 

[Calista]

I think its pretty universally regarded that American influence in UK/European football is a bad thing.

This is the opening line in Channel 5’s edgy new production of Pride and Prejudice.

 

[clint van damme]

Well I think its more the circus around it.

If King brought in Adam Sandler as an investor and we got him commentating on our games on Sky I'd be embarrassed.

So would I. Its a ludicrous idea.
But a broadcaster is going to put out content that gets watched, that's obviously the sort of shit the new breed of supporter want.

But there's a far bigger picture than that drivel.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

So would I. Its a ludicrous idea.
But a broadcaster is going to put out content that gets watched, that's obviously the sort of shit the new breed of supporter want.

But there's a far bigger picture than that drivel.

The new age of football fan wants to be closer to the players, ownership, and have more behind access to the club they support. Generating engagement through direct to consumer methods is now key to getting more numbers on socials, clicks, shares etc.

So people might think it's cringe, and it is, but there's a reason why they did that. It's a perfect vehicle to generate more exposure, especially for what was deemed as a 'Welsh derby', which means more eyes on Wrexham which keeps their commercial partners happy and is easy PR for the club.

 

[Sick Boy]

Maybe it's just me but I'd never heard of them Wrexham owners before they took over.

 

[Ccfcsj]

Maybe it's just me but I'd never heard of them Wrexham owners before they took over.

I am the same

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Maybe it's just me but I'd never heard of them Wrexham owners before they took over.

Seriously?

 

[Gint11]

Well I think its more the circus around it.

If King brought in Adam Sandler as an investor and we got him commentating on our games on Sky I'd be embarrassed.

Content, eyes, engagement = £££

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Content, eyes, engagement = £££

‘Content’

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

‘Content’

You joke but there are thousands of fans in the US that have an annual subscription to watch Wrexham games live. They'll lap that kind of content up.

 

[Shannerz]

You joke but there are thousands of fans in the US that have an annual subscription to watch Wrexham games live. They'll lap that kind of content up.

Which is fair enough, but it's not what I'd want my club to become.

 

[Grendel]

Which is fair enough, but it's not what I'd want my club to become.

Then you don’t want us to be that successful

 

[Shannerz]

Maybe it's just me but I'd never heard of them Wrexham owners before they took over.

I'd heard of Deadpool (I've not seen it, but can picture the character), but I wouldn't have been able to put a name to the actor.

I know their names through football.

 

[Shannerz]

Then you don’t want us to be that successful

I don't want success at any price.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You joke but there are thousands of fans in the US that have an annual subscription to watch Wrexham games live. They'll lap that kind of content up.

‘Content’, I just cringe at the word.

 

[skybluecam]

Quite possibly. But no club is able to succeed on its own so your point is largely redundant. The owner is pretty much always the catalyst behind whatever success is achieved.

Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford wouldn't be anywhere near the PL if it wasn't for wealthy benefactors pumping money in.

Man City or Chelsea wouldn't have won the trophies they have done over the past 20 years without their owners. I'd throw Leicester into that mix as well.



In the most recent full reporting cycle (2023/24 financial year), only 15 out of 92 pro english clubs made a profit. That means if every owner from England's top four divisions pulled out tomorrow nearly 85% of those clubs within those leagues wouldn't be able to continue operating.

While it's within Reynold's and McElhenney's interest to ensure the staggering commercial revenue Wrexham generates continues, they seem to be looking to use it as a vehicle to achieving success rather than be permanently reliant on it long-term. I suspect there's a lot going on in the background to ensure that if it did dip they wouldn't be completely caught out in the short term.

Hence why they've started bringing in external investors.

So it’s not genuine revenue growth then is it. That’s my entire point.

 

[shmmeee]

You said Wrexham genuinely grew their revenues. How is their growth any more genuine than an owner just pumping in money?

Because there are real people who follow them. Unlike the teams I mentioned that would have trouble packing out a minibus. You may not like how those people came to be fans but they exist.

 

[shmmeee]

So it’s not genuine revenue growth then is it. That’s my entire point.

Fucking hell

 

[fernandopartridge]

I hope I'm not the only this gives ear-worm to.

Yes, hot dog!

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

So it’s not genuine revenue growth then is it. That’s my entire point.

I'm at a loss someone please interject I don't have the patience.

 

[skybluecam]

I'm at a loss someone please interject I don't have the patience.

The revenue growth is completely tied to the owners. It’s basically no different to them just plowing money in themselves. How am I wrong?

 

[skybluecam]

Because there are real people who follow them. Unlike the teams I mentioned that would have trouble packing out a minibus. You may not like how those people came to be fans but they exist.

Doesn’t make any sense, real people follow Bournemouth. Wrexham averaged like 5k attendance before the takeover. If you build it, people will come.

 

[Sick Boy]

‘Content’, I just cringe at the word.

Especially when it’s those video bloggers walking into pubs holding them.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Doesn’t make any sense, real people follow Bournemouth. Wrexham averaged like 5k attendance before the takeover. If you build it, people will come.

People follow Bournemouth because the owners put in 100s of millions

 

[skybluecam]

People follow Bournemouth because the owners put in 100s of millions

Why do they follow Wrexham then