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David O'Day

David O'Day

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pusbccfc said:
“We sold 50,000 seats at Wembley last year for our Vertu Trophy final. We had 22,000 people live on the phone waiting to buy tickets when the last ticket was sold.

“So the demand is there. We don’t need to sell 62,000 every single game in year one.

“But I bet we will every Saturday, and we’d do it in the Championship.”

Genuinely mental.
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Did he really say they'd sell 62k every week in this league? fucking bald weirdo and folk like our new pet bluenose shallow that shite?
 
pusbccfc

pusbccfc

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David O'Day said:
Did he really say they'd sell 62k every week in this league? fucking bald weirdo and folk like our new pet bluenose shallow that shite?
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Yes, but don't forget they took 45,000 to Wembley once! 😉
 
Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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Bluestalk said:
Long-time reader, first-time poster and all that. I’ve been waiting a good while to post this, fully aware of the reactions the stadium will provoke.

Love the “11% interest charged on loans” comment, by the way — only it’s not quite the gotcha you think it is. Knighthead Capital Management ($16+ billion AUM) offered a loan facility to the previous Hong Kong owners as a way for them to diversify their business, secured against the outstanding ownership percentage the Chinese group held in BCFC.

I’ve seen plenty of comments questioning the financing, usually from people who only understand the classic “loan plus interest” model where the lender pockets interest, everyone nods along. Fair enough, that’s the limit of most people’s experience.

But Wagner spelled it out at the open house, Blues are tied into Knighthead’s life insurance and annuity arm ($6+ billion). Suddenly it all makes a bit more sense for anyone with even a passing grasp of finance. Insurance companies are tightly regulated on the liabilities they can take on, and their trick is the age-old “investing the float” strategy — using premiums until claims are due and making money in the meantime. And here’s the clever bit, that float isn’t just idle cash, it’s used to grow the assets inside the insurance company (BCFC), which in turn lets them shoulder more liabilities, expand further, and ultimately add value for the owners. Hardly rocket science, it’s what the big insurance players across the globe have been doing for decades.

“bUt tHe oWnErS WiLl wAnT pAyInG bAcK”

NFL? Why would the NFL come to Birmingham when Tottenham already have the UK games? The original 10-year Spurs contract runs out in 2028, but it’s not long been extended to 2030. Meanwhile, Wagner and Tom Brady have an $800–900 million investment in the Las Vegas Raiders. Just a coincidence, I’m sure. NFL European expansion league, anyone?

For those insisting the plans will never get approved now that would be a pretty embarrassing outcome for a team of around 75 people working alongside Birmingham City Council, fully funded by Knighthead Capital. Eighteen months of effort binned? That would sting, wouldn’t you think?

The exterior of the stadium won’t be everyone’s cup of tea, but one thing’s certain: it’s iconic. The stadium bowl is as steep as regulations allow, and it’ll be the only UK stadium with both a retractable roof and pitch.

Laugh, joke, sneer, and poke fun all you like — but when serious businessmen make investment pledges of this scale, it’s not to keep the squad’s financing stuck in the status quo. The entire sports quarter revenue flows into BCFC’s coffers, making PSR an issue only the Villa blokes cry about.

Enjoy your current ride in the Championship — I genuinely hope you make it to the Prem. FYI, Mike Ashley was perfectly happy owning the Ricoh, as it gave him a tidy return on his initial investment plus all the non-football revenue (concerts, etc.). But I know for a fact there’s already been a meeting about what’s about to be built just down the road in Brum. Which means the Ricoh Arena and Villa Park will be collecting their last few concerts before the Powerhouse opens in 2030.

You can keep the Enemy gigs though.

Why all this effort, you may ask? Because Mike (English teacher) ex–brother-in-law who thought my sister was a punching bag is a regular poster on here, and I know full well the “love” he has for the real Blues. Petty? Absolutely. Do I care? Not in the slightest.

1st and last post, Keep Right On….. (JB)
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Mind the gap…
 
JSL

JSL

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Those chimneys aren't chimneys after all. it turns out that they are Wi-Fi masts. Maybe not so daft after all
 
SKYBLUES90

SKYBLUES90

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Bluestalk said:
Long-time reader, first-time poster and all that. I’ve been waiting a good while to post this, fully aware of the reactions the stadium will provoke.

Love the “11% interest charged on loans” comment, by the way — only it’s not quite the gotcha you think it is. Knighthead Capital Management ($16+ billion AUM) offered a loan facility to the previous Hong Kong owners as a way for them to diversify their business, secured against the outstanding ownership percentage the Chinese group held in BCFC.

I’ve seen plenty of comments questioning the financing, usually from people who only understand the classic “loan plus interest” model where the lender pockets interest, everyone nods along. Fair enough, that’s the limit of most people’s experience.

But Wagner spelled it out at the open house, Blues are tied into Knighthead’s life insurance and annuity arm ($6+ billion). Suddenly it all makes a bit more sense for anyone with even a passing grasp of finance. Insurance companies are tightly regulated on the liabilities they can take on, and their trick is the age-old “investing the float” strategy — using premiums until claims are due and making money in the meantime. And here’s the clever bit, that float isn’t just idle cash, it’s used to grow the assets inside the insurance company (BCFC), which in turn lets them shoulder more liabilities, expand further, and ultimately add value for the owners. Hardly rocket science, it’s what the big insurance players across the globe have been doing for decades.

“bUt tHe oWnErS WiLl wAnT pAyInG bAcK”

NFL? Why would the NFL come to Birmingham when Tottenham already have the UK games? The original 10-year Spurs contract runs out in 2028, but it’s not long been extended to 2030. Meanwhile, Wagner and Tom Brady have an $800–900 million investment in the Las Vegas Raiders. Just a coincidence, I’m sure. NFL European expansion league, anyone?

For those insisting the plans will never get approved now that would be a pretty embarrassing outcome for a team of around 75 people working alongside Birmingham City Council, fully funded by Knighthead Capital. Eighteen months of effort binned? That would sting, wouldn’t you think?

The exterior of the stadium won’t be everyone’s cup of tea, but one thing’s certain: it’s iconic. The stadium bowl is as steep as regulations allow, and it’ll be the only UK stadium with both a retractable roof and pitch.

Laugh, joke, sneer, and poke fun all you like — but when serious businessmen make investment pledges of this scale, it’s not to keep the squad’s financing stuck in the status quo. The entire sports quarter revenue flows into BCFC’s coffers, making PSR an issue only the Villa blokes cry about.

Enjoy your current ride in the Championship — I genuinely hope you make it to the Prem. FYI, Mike Ashley was perfectly happy owning the Ricoh, as it gave him a tidy return on his initial investment plus all the non-football revenue (concerts, etc.). But I know for a fact there’s already been a meeting about what’s about to be built just down the road in Brum. Which means the Ricoh Arena and Villa Park will be collecting their last few concerts before the Powerhouse opens in 2030.

You can keep the Enemy gigs though.

Why all this effort, you may ask? Because Mike (English teacher) ex–brother-in-law who thought my sister was a punching bag is a regular poster on here, and I know full well the “love” he has for the real Blues. Petty? Absolutely. Do I care? Not in the slightest.

1st and last post, Keep Right On….. (JB)
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Remember when you lot all were kicking off about £45 tickets the other month?

Careful what you wish for…stadium Looks great 😂 shame you won’t fill it.

Least you can use the ticket prices as an excuse though eh.
 
Sky Blue Goblin

Sky Blue Goblin

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Bluestalk said:
Long-time reader, first-time poster and all that. I’ve been waiting a good while to post this, fully aware of the reactions the stadium will provoke.

Love the “11% interest charged on loans” comment, by the way — only it’s not quite the gotcha you think it is. Knighthead Capital Management ($16+ billion AUM) offered a loan facility to the previous Hong Kong owners as a way for them to diversify their business, secured against the outstanding ownership percentage the Chinese group held in BCFC.

I’ve seen plenty of comments questioning the financing, usually from people who only understand the classic “loan plus interest” model where the lender pockets interest, everyone nods along. Fair enough, that’s the limit of most people’s experience.

But Wagner spelled it out at the open house, Blues are tied into Knighthead’s life insurance and annuity arm ($6+ billion). Suddenly it all makes a bit more sense for anyone with even a passing grasp of finance. Insurance companies are tightly regulated on the liabilities they can take on, and their trick is the age-old “investing the float” strategy — using premiums until claims are due and making money in the meantime. And here’s the clever bit, that float isn’t just idle cash, it’s used to grow the assets inside the insurance company (BCFC), which in turn lets them shoulder more liabilities, expand further, and ultimately add value for the owners. Hardly rocket science, it’s what the big insurance players across the globe have been doing for decades.

“bUt tHe oWnErS WiLl wAnT pAyInG bAcK”

NFL? Why would the NFL come to Birmingham when Tottenham already have the UK games? The original 10-year Spurs contract runs out in 2028, but it’s not long been extended to 2030. Meanwhile, Wagner and Tom Brady have an $800–900 million investment in the Las Vegas Raiders. Just a coincidence, I’m sure. NFL European expansion league, anyone?

For those insisting the plans will never get approved now that would be a pretty embarrassing outcome for a team of around 75 people working alongside Birmingham City Council, fully funded by Knighthead Capital. Eighteen months of effort binned? That would sting, wouldn’t you think?

The exterior of the stadium won’t be everyone’s cup of tea, but one thing’s certain: it’s iconic. The stadium bowl is as steep as regulations allow, and it’ll be the only UK stadium with both a retractable roof and pitch.

Laugh, joke, sneer, and poke fun all you like — but when serious businessmen make investment pledges of this scale, it’s not to keep the squad’s financing stuck in the status quo. The entire sports quarter revenue flows into BCFC’s coffers, making PSR an issue only the Villa blokes cry about.

Enjoy your current ride in the Championship — I genuinely hope you make it to the Prem. FYI, Mike Ashley was perfectly happy owning the Ricoh, as it gave him a tidy return on his initial investment plus all the non-football revenue (concerts, etc.). But I know for a fact there’s already been a meeting about what’s about to be built just down the road in Brum. Which means the Ricoh Arena and Villa Park will be collecting their last few concerts before the Powerhouse opens in 2030.

You can keep the Enemy gigs though.

Why all this effort, you may ask? Because Mike (English teacher) ex–brother-in-law who thought my sister was a punching bag is a regular poster on here, and I know full well the “love” he has for the real Blues. Petty? Absolutely. Do I care? Not in the slightest.

1st and last post, Keep Right On….. (JB)
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Okay feck it I’ll bite.

On the design. I don’t like it, think it’s way too much and if you wanted to have the chimney theme, you should of looked at the old Chelsea Battersea design inside of just adding eight chimneys onto the hill dickensen and calling it a day.

On the second point, hope it works four you sake but I’m very cynical of any owner who comes. selling the world and delivering a stadium of that size in this country.

Coventry had Arena 2000 plans for a 45,000 stadium which got pushed back and back to the CBS. In our exile, we were promised a new arena I think four times with concept art released.

Truthfully think your owners should walk before they run, currently their record is one promotion and one relegation. Why not focus on getting the team up and building the demand?
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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SKYBLUES90 said:
Remember when you lot all were kicking off about £45 tickets the other month?

Careful what you wish for…stadium Looks great 😂 shame you won’t fill it.

Least you can use the ticket prices as an excuse though eh.
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it doesn't look great
 
Shannerz

Shannerz

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Ccfcisparks said:
Lets be honest, part of us is slightly envious.
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Not in the slightest.

Even if their wildest dreams come true, they build their ridiculous stadium, find the fans to fill it and have success on the pitch, they've still lost what they were. A community club followed by a (good) number of die-hard supporters. Something they could identify with and genuinely feel a part of.

They'd be a plaything for someone genuinely cringeworthy and full of 'supporters' who'd never heard of them 10 years previously.

If I wanted to support a mega-club, I'd fuck off and support Real Madrid. That just doesn't appeal. If that's what Coventry City were, then Coventry City would never have caught my imagination.

I want success, but not at the cost of what we are.
 
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AJB1983

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One thing I would say is that only more recently have new stadium designers really thought about the non-corporate fan experience. In respect of the environment and facilities.

The CBS being one example, but others built in a similar era, the fan concourses and that aren’t great. Essentially just ‘newer’ versions of what went before. Even the Emirates I recall wasn’t great at least in the away end.

What you see with the likes of Spurs, Everton and with this Blues one, that if you have the money you can make the place a nice and unique place to go and it at least looks like that’s what they are trying to do here.

it won’t look like that ultimately will it - it’s far too big - I reckon they may get four chimneys at most and not that height.
 
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