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Travs

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  • Today at 10:09 AM
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I think its pretty universally regarded that American influence in UK/European football is a bad thing.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 10:11 AM
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skybluecam said:
Again, it’s not Wrexham doing it is it though. They could’ve picked basically any club and done the same. There is nothing about Wrexham itself that has driven that growth, as you say it’s just a vehicle for the owners to grow their brand.
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And if they'd picked us we'd all be going to games dressed as deadpool and drinking in Paddys pub (formerly the Anecdote)
 
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viridisman

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  • Today at 10:15 AM
  • #18,798
skybluecam said:
Again, it’s not Wrexham doing it is it though. They could’ve picked basically any club and done the same. There is nothing about Wrexham itself that has driven that growth, as you say it’s just a vehicle for the owners to grow their brand.
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The second those two sell the club, sponsor appeal falls out it's arse. Along with their TV show, which wouldn't exist if not for a sweetener deal for Reynolds from Disney
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Today at 10:17 AM
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Just seen lots of punters are lumping on Ipswich to win the title after Saturdays results!! No wonder you never see a poor bookie
 
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skybluecam

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  • Today at 10:23 AM
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viridisman said:
100%
The second those two sell the club, sponsor appeal falls out it's arse. Along with their TV show, which wouldn't exist if not for a sweetener deal for Reynolds from Disney
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Yeah if Rob and Ryan pulled out tomorrow it would collapse like a house of cards.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 10:41 AM
  • #18,801
skybluecam said:
Yeah if Rob and Ryan pulled out tomorrow it would collapse like a house of cards.
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That could be said for a lot of clubs with rich owners, though I doubt the Roberts family would allow it to collapse, though they may have to revise their ambitions
 
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Shannerz

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  • Today at 11:02 AM
  • #18,802
Liquid Gold said:
Albuquerque
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I hope I'm not the only this gives ear-worm to.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 11:06 AM
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skybluecam said:
Again, it’s not Wrexham doing it is it though. They could’ve picked basically any club and done the same. There is nothing about Wrexham itself that has driven that growth, as you say it’s just a vehicle for the owners to grow their brand.
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Quite possibly. But no club is able to succeed on its own so your point is largely redundant. The owner is pretty much always the catalyst behind whatever success is achieved.

Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford wouldn't be anywhere near the PL if it wasn't for wealthy benefactors pumping money in.

Man City or Chelsea wouldn't have won the trophies they have done over the past 20 years without their owners. I'd throw Leicester into that mix as well.

skybluecam said:
Yeah if Rob and Ryan pulled out tomorrow it would collapse like a house of cards.
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In the most recent full reporting cycle (2023/24 financial year), only 15 out of 92 pro english clubs made a profit. That means if every owner from England's top four divisions pulled out tomorrow nearly 85% of those clubs within those leagues wouldn't be able to continue operating.

While it's within Reynold's and McElhenney's interest to ensure the staggering commercial revenue Wrexham generates continues, they seem to be looking to use it as a vehicle to achieving success rather than be permanently reliant on it long-term. I suspect there's a lot going on in the background to ensure that if it did dip they wouldn't be completely caught out in the short term.

Hence why they've started bringing in external investors.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Today at 11:11 AM
  • #18,804
To be fair to deadpool their income must be within the club to count - the fact that they already have 11 ty billion followers in the US - should they reach the Prem their tickets will become golden tickets for those visiting from across the pond
 

clint van damme

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  • Today at 11:23 AM
  • #18,805
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Quite possibly. But no club is able to succeed on its own so your point is largely redundant. The owner is pretty much always the catalyst behind whatever success is achieved.

Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford wouldn't be anywhere near the PL if it wasn't for wealthy benefactors pumping money in.

Man City or Chelsea wouldn't have won the trophies they have done over the past 20 years without their owners. I'd throw Leicester into that mix as well.



In the most recent full reporting cycle (2023/24 financial year), only 15 out of 92 pro english clubs made a profit. That means if every owner from England's top four divisions pulled out tomorrow nearly 85% of those clubs within those leagues wouldn't be able to continue operating.

While it's within Reynold's and McElhenney's interest to ensure the staggering commercial revenue Wrexham generates continues, they seem to be looking to use it as a vehicle to achieving success rather than be permanently reliant on it long-term. I suspect there's a lot going on in the background to ensure that if it did dip they wouldn't be completely caught out in the short term.

Hence why they've started bringing in external investors.
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If King brings in partners akin to the two fellas at Wrexham, (and I'm sure he's looking for investment), and we stay up as a result I doubt too many on here would complain.

I'm genuinely bemused by what some people on here deem as acceptable owners.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 11:26 AM
  • #18,806
clint van damme said:
If King brings in partners akin to the two fellas at Wrexham, (and I'm sure he's looking for investment), and we stay up as a result I doubt too many on here would complain.

I'm genuinely bemused by what some people on here deem as acceptable owners.
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Well I think its more the circus around it.

If King brought in Adam Sandler as an investor and we got him commentating on our games on Sky I'd be embarrassed.
 
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Calista

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  • Today at 11:33 AM
  • #18,807
Travs said:
I think its pretty universally regarded that American influence in UK/European football is a bad thing.
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This is the opening line in Channel 5’s edgy new production of Pride and Prejudice.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 11:34 AM
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Ccfcisparks said:
Well I think its more the circus around it.

If King brought in Adam Sandler as an investor and we got him commentating on our games on Sky I'd be embarrassed.
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So would I. Its a ludicrous idea.
But a broadcaster is going to put out content that gets watched, that's obviously the sort of shit the new breed of supporter want.

But there's a far bigger picture than that drivel.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 11:48 AM
  • #18,809
clint van damme said:
So would I. Its a ludicrous idea.
But a broadcaster is going to put out content that gets watched, that's obviously the sort of shit the new breed of supporter want.

But there's a far bigger picture than that drivel.
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The new age of football fan wants to be closer to the players, ownership, and have more behind access to the club they support. Generating engagement through direct to consumer methods is now key to getting more numbers on socials, clicks, shares etc.

So people might think it's cringe, and it is, but there's a reason why they did that. It's a perfect vehicle to generate more exposure, especially for what was deemed as a 'Welsh derby', which means more eyes on Wrexham which keeps their commercial partners happy and is easy PR for the club.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Today at 11:48 AM
  • #18,810
Maybe it's just me but I'd never heard of them Wrexham owners before they took over.
 
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Ccfcsj

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  • Today at 11:52 AM
  • #18,811
Sick Boy said:
Maybe it's just me but I'd never heard of them Wrexham owners before they took over.
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I am the same
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 11:53 AM
  • #18,812
Sick Boy said:
Maybe it's just me but I'd never heard of them Wrexham owners before they took over.
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Seriously?
 

Gint11

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  • Today at 11:54 AM
  • #18,813
Ccfcisparks said:
Well I think its more the circus around it.

If King brought in Adam Sandler as an investor and we got him commentating on our games on Sky I'd be embarrassed.
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Content, eyes, engagement = £££
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • 59 minutes ago
  • #18,814
Gint11 said:
Content, eyes, engagement = £££
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‘Content’
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • 51 minutes ago
  • #18,815
Brighton Sky Blue said:
‘Content’
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You joke but there are thousands of fans in the US that have an annual subscription to watch Wrexham games live. They'll lap that kind of content up.
 

Shannerz

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  • 34 minutes ago
  • #18,816
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
You joke but there are thousands of fans in the US that have an annual subscription to watch Wrexham games live. They'll lap that kind of content up.
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Which is fair enough, but it's not what I'd want my club to become.
 

Grendel

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  • 33 minutes ago
  • #18,817
Shannerz said:
Which is fair enough, but it's not what I'd want my club to become.
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Then you don’t want us to be that successful
 
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Shannerz

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  • 33 minutes ago
  • #18,818
Sick Boy said:
Maybe it's just me but I'd never heard of them Wrexham owners before they took over.
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I'd heard of Deadpool (I've not seen it, but can picture the character), but I wouldn't have been able to put a name to the actor.

I know their names through football.
 
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Shannerz

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  • 32 minutes ago
  • #18,819
Grendel said:
Then you don’t want us to be that successful
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I don't want success at any price.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • 25 minutes ago
  • #18,820
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
You joke but there are thousands of fans in the US that have an annual subscription to watch Wrexham games live. They'll lap that kind of content up.
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‘Content’, I just cringe at the word.
 
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skybluecam

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  • 20 minutes ago
  • #18,821
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Quite possibly. But no club is able to succeed on its own so your point is largely redundant. The owner is pretty much always the catalyst behind whatever success is achieved.

Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford wouldn't be anywhere near the PL if it wasn't for wealthy benefactors pumping money in.

Man City or Chelsea wouldn't have won the trophies they have done over the past 20 years without their owners. I'd throw Leicester into that mix as well.



In the most recent full reporting cycle (2023/24 financial year), only 15 out of 92 pro english clubs made a profit. That means if every owner from England's top four divisions pulled out tomorrow nearly 85% of those clubs within those leagues wouldn't be able to continue operating.

While it's within Reynold's and McElhenney's interest to ensure the staggering commercial revenue Wrexham generates continues, they seem to be looking to use it as a vehicle to achieving success rather than be permanently reliant on it long-term. I suspect there's a lot going on in the background to ensure that if it did dip they wouldn't be completely caught out in the short term.

Hence why they've started bringing in external investors.
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So it’s not genuine revenue growth then is it. That’s my entire point.
 
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shmmeee

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  • 19 minutes ago
  • #18,822
skybluecam said:
You said Wrexham genuinely grew their revenues. How is their growth any more genuine than an owner just pumping in money?
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Because there are real people who follow them. Unlike the teams I mentioned that would have trouble packing out a minibus. You may not like how those people came to be fans but they exist.
 

shmmeee

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  • 19 minutes ago
  • #18,823
skybluecam said:
So it’s not genuine revenue growth then is it. That’s my entire point.
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Fucking hell
 

fernandopartridge

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  • 18 minutes ago
  • #18,824
Shannerz said:
I hope I'm not the only this gives ear-worm to.
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Yes, hot dog!
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • 18 minutes ago
  • #18,825
skybluecam said:
So it’s not genuine revenue growth then is it. That’s my entire point.
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I'm at a loss someone please interject I don't have the patience.
 

skybluecam

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  • 7 minutes ago
  • #18,826
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I'm at a loss someone please interject I don't have the patience.
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The revenue growth is completely tied to the owners. It’s basically no different to them just plowing money in themselves. How am I wrong?
 
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