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Championship thread 25/26! (29 Viewers)

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mmttww

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,031
Ccfcisparks said:
and would be an option in the prem.
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that's the only angle which would make sense to me. Haven't you been banging the drum pretty hard to go after players to get us over the line, though? Asking a bit much for the club to do that and in the same window, take a punt on a striker from Swedish league that might have the potential to cut it if we went up.
 
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Trueskyblue20

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,032
Ccfcisparks said:
His ceiling is a lot higher than any of the 3 strikers we have, and would be an option in the prem.
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I don’t think any of our strikers would be a good option in the Prem. BTA has been brilliant but doesn’t play as a proper 9 anyway, more of a Winger/AM.

I’d be tempted to take a punt on Jovon Makama (young prospect) and another (main striker) if we did go up. He looks a real prospect and has the physicality and pace to match. Not to mention being 6ft5 always helps


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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,033
mmttww said:
that's the only angle which would make sense to me. Haven't you been banging the drum pretty hard to go after players to get us over the line, though? Asking a bit much for the club to do that and in the same window, take a punt on a striker from Swedish league that might have the potential to cut it if we went up.
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Well I'm just being realistic, ideally we would be doing both but I know that Doug is very tight with his money.

Therefore the priority would be getting those to get us over the line.

Ideally we should be signing the likes of Priske alongside those to get us over.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 15, 2026
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,035
Whoscored seems to be a team rating as much as a player rating from this so our players being at the top is hardly surprising or evidence of much on an individual level.

https://www.whoscored.com/explanations
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,036
shmmeee said:
Whoscored seems to be a team rating as much as a player rating from this so our players being at the top is hardly surprising or evidence of much on an individual level.

https://www.whoscored.com/explanations
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We're a good team because we have players performing at a good level?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,037
shmmeee said:
Whoscored seems to be a team rating as much as a player rating from this so our players being at the top is hardly surprising or evidence of much on an individual level.

https://www.whoscored.com/explanations
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Torp is second to Luaza in Fotmob ratings, these are based on statistics
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,038

FotMob

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www.fotmob.com
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,039
fernandopartridge said:

FotMob

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www.fotmob.com
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Some of our other shite players showing up quite well in that list too.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,040
TomRad85 said:
Some of our other shite players showing up quite well in that list too.
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Indeed.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,041
fernandopartridge said:

FotMob

FotMob is the essential app for matchday. Get live scores, fixtures, tables, match stats, and personalised news from over 500 football leagues around the world.
www.fotmob.com
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Not sure how this disproves what I’m saying. They both use Opta stats in some unspecified way. Torp scores lots because he plays in a team that was breaking scoring records. Torp in another team would have worse stats.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,042
shmmeee said:
Not sure how this disproves what I’m saying. They both use Opta stats in some unspecified way. Torp scores lots because he plays in a team that was breaking scoring records. Torp in another team would have worse stats.
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Yes, same as any other player
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,043
fernandopartridge said:
Yes, same as any other player
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Yes. Which is why I don’t think individual player scores are worth much without knowing what they’re trying to aggregate.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,044
shmmeee said:
Yes. Which is why I don’t think individual player scores are worth much without knowing what they’re trying to aggregate.
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Individual player performance drives team performance not the other way around
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,045
fernandopartridge said:
Individual player performance drives team performance not the other way around
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I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here tbh. If it’s that by being in a winning team you must be a better player I’d refer you to Philosoraptors graphs on here and this page which has our best players by PPG including KKH and Rapha.

Coventry City - Squad statistics (Detailed view)

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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,046
shmmeee said:
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here tbh. If it’s that by being in a winning team you must be a better player I’d refer you to Philosoraptors graphs on here and this page which has our best players by PPG including KKH and Rapha.

Coventry City - Squad statistics (Detailed view)

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It's not scientific, it is a fact that team performance is an aggregate of player performance.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,047
fernandopartridge said:
It's not scientific, it is a fact that team performance is an aggregate of player performance.
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Sorry I’m really not sure what any of this has to do with whoscored/fotmob ratings.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,048
shmmeee said:
Sorry I’m really not sure what any of this has to do with whoscored/fotmob ratings.
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You said that Torp was scoring lots because the team was. It's the other way around.
 

skybluecam

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,049
shmmeee said:
Not sure how this disproves what I’m saying. They both use Opta stats in some unspecified way. Torp scores lots because he plays in a team that was breaking scoring records. Torp in another team would have worse stats.
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The team generally scores more when Torp’s in it
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,050
skybluecam said:
The team generally scores more when Torp’s in it
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The team generally wins more points when Rapha is in it. Recall him immediately.

Using team stats like wins to assess players gets you in some silly positions.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,051
fernandopartridge said:
You said that Torp was scoring lots because the team was. It's the other way around.
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What?
 

skybluecam

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,052
shmmeee said:
The team generally wins more points when Rapha is in it. Recall him immediately.

Using team stats like wins to assess players gets you in some silly positions.
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Yeah because those sample sizes are very comparable
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,053
shmmeee said:
What?
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Championship thread 25/26!

and would be an option in the prem. that's the only angle which would make sense to me. Haven't you been banging the drum pretty hard to go after players to get us over the line, though? Asking a bit much for the club to do that and in the same window, take a punt on a striker from Swedish...
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,054
skybluecam said:
Yeah because those sample sizes are very comparable
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KKH then. Say what you like measuring team metrics and applying them to individuals is stupid.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,055
shmmeee said:
What?
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Even I understood that !!!!
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,056
shmmeee said:
KKH then. Say what you like measuring team metrics and applying them to individuals is stupid.
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KKH has started 4 games and we’ve won none of them…
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,057
skybluecam said:
KKH has started 4 games and we’ve won none of them…
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And yet (this is what happens why you add random constraints like “started” to get the result you want an not what the data says)


And literally it doesn’t matter what you say because statistics measured for one thing are not applicable to another.
 

skybluecam

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  • Jan 15, 2026
  • #9,058
shmmeee said:
And yet (this is what happens why you add random constraints like “started” to get the result you want an not what the data says)
View attachment 48349View attachment 48348

And literally it doesn’t matter what you say because statistics measured for one thing are not applicable to another.
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Just a ridiculous point
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2026
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skybluecam said:
Just a ridiculous point
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Then drop it. Points per game is not a player statistic. You might as well judge them by average attendance.
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Jan 16, 2026
  • #9,060
Come on West Brom


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jas365

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  • Jan 16, 2026
  • #9,061
Fergusons_Beard said:
Come on West Brom


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They are awful atm, easy Boro win
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jan 16, 2026
  • #9,062
jas365 said:
They are awful atm, easy Boro win
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New manager bounce though.
 

Hutch11

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  • Jan 16, 2026
  • #9,063
jas365 said:
They are awful atm, easy Boro win
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To be fair they were far better than lesser just got done by a last minute screamer
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jan 16, 2026
  • #9,064
West Broms home results aren't actually that bad. I have a feeling they get something.
 

SkyBlueStallion_89

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  • Jan 16, 2026
  • #9,065
Hopefully the new American managers arrival gives them a boost and they beat Boro
 
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