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David O'Day

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #736
covcity4life said:
Yeah I was just surprised he went rennes. Not a bad team but not great either. Do think perhaps they sold a project to him though at time
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No, they were the best team to want him. He didn't really play for them and they have binned him off after 6 months.
 
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Lamps

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #737
covcity4life said:
He was class at Celtic and not really sure why they sold him tbh

I wonder if its a matter of time till Brum go up considering their backing
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They have been backed financially yes. But they will still be playing catchup with a bunch of strangers and players from League 1 where if they don't start strongly will be up against it. I honestly think they will be OK this season then become a side with a good chance in another year.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #738
Lamps said:
They have been backed financially yes. But they will still be playing catchup with a bunch of strangers and players from League 1 where if they don't start strongly will be up against it. I honestly think they will be OK this season then become a side with a good chance in another year.
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Ya I agree , kinda what I meant by a matter of time

Maybe same for Wrexham too

But we will give it a go this year so hopefully it's our time and we are established prem team by time they join us
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #739
covcity4life said:
Ya I agree , kinda what I meant by a matter of time

Maybe same for Wrexham too

But we will give it a go this year so hopefully it's our time and we are established prem team by time they join us
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No, Blues need a quick promotion as there is no way they are going be able to pass PSR.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #740
David O'Day said:
No, Blues need a quick promotion as there is no way they are going be able to pass PSR.
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Ya I dunno how the psr works in championship tbf. Hopefully it's not something they can bypass
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #741
covcity4life said:
Ya I dunno how the psr works in championship tbf. Hopefully it's not something they can bypass
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Only if they get promoted.

People also have to remember all their spending last year was from a loan at 12% interest from their owners
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #742
Brum sign another Japanese player from La Liga. Kanya Fujimoto no.10
 

Lamps

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #743
David O'Day said:
Only if they get promoted.

People also have to remember all their spending last year was from a loan at 12% interest from their owners
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The loan can go both ways. Being the owners they owe the money to themselves.
 

Cobi Jones's Dreads

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #744
Would love us to sign anotherJapanese player, preferably a centre mid, would help Tats a lot and also just think most are really classy creative players.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #745
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Brum sign another Japanese player from La Liga. Kanya Fujimoto no.10
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Preimera Liga, not La Liga

26 and not a full international
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #746
David O'Day said:
Preimera Liga, not La Liga

26 and not a full international
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Ah yes…
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #747
Wilder to the knicker stitchers?
 

SBAndy

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #748
Lamps said:
The loan can go both ways. Being the owners they owe the money to themselves.
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Regardless, the interest accrued goes against their PSR capacity.
 

SleepyGinger

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #749
Knight head are in it for the long run at blues, bought the Birmingham wheels site with plans to build a 60k seater stadium on it. I don’t claim to know a lot about how PSR works but surely wouldn’t risk putting Birmingham into financial trouble?
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #750
SleepyGinger said:
Knight head are in it for the long run at blues, bought the Birmingham wheels site with plans to build a 60k seater stadium on it. I don’t claim to know a lot about how PSR works but surely wouldn’t risk putting Birmingham into financial trouble?
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Not sure if PL PSR rules are different from the Championship, but stadium building costs (ie 'club infrastructure'), for example for Everton, were exempt from PSR.
 

blunted

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #751
Danceswithhorses said:
Not sure if PL PSR rules are different from the Championship, but stadium building costs (ie 'club infrastructure'), for example for Everton, were exempt from PSR.
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Wenger said building a new ground put Arsenal back years as they could no longer compete on transfers. 60k is peanuts for a ground these days. Most big projects go way over budget as well.
Many new grounds have put clubs in trouble. Ours did. Think the Madejski Stadium was a particularly classic example of owner screwing a club. Dodgy owners who lump all the debt on the club are particularly bad when it comes to new grounds.
Don't know anything about the Brum owners but 12% interest on loans seems they are in it for big profit in the long run.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #752
SleepyGinger said:
Knight head are in it for the long run at blues, bought the Birmingham wheels site with plans to build a 60k seater stadium on it. I don’t claim to know a lot about how PSR works but surely wouldn’t risk putting Birmingham into financial trouble?
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They're a hedge fund looking for a quick promotion to the PL by overspending and then trying to make the money back on a quick sale.

Heard that story before?
 
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Lamps

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  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #753
Liquid Gold said:
They're a hedge fund looking for a quick promotion to the PL by overspending and then trying to make the money back on a quick sale.

Heard that story before?
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It's going to be interesting to see how they start. I know Ipswich went up to the Prem on their first attempt, but they started with a settled side. Brum will start with a team of strangers not knowing each others strengths. To be able to come in the top 2 you need at least a decent start. The top 2 sides don't normally lose many games so once there's a gap it's hard to close it. So they would then be joining the lottery of the playoffs at best.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #754
Cobi Jones's Dreads said:
Would love us to sign anotherJapanese player, preferably a centre mid, would help Tats a lot and also just think most are really classy creative players.
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How would it help him?
 

Winny the Bish

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #755
Apparently the fee Wednesday want for Gassama is only £2.5m. Could be the bargain of the century.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #756
What is Birmingham’s net spending at from last summer to now?
 

Cobi Jones's Dreads

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  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #757
Sick Boy said:
How would it help him?
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Thought it would be fairly self explanatory but having someone who speaks his native language around the squad, to help him settle and be even more happy at the club and in the area.

I’s public knowledge, how he struggled at the start with the language barrier and how the club have funded extra English lessons and asked for native Japanese speakers within the local area to help him.
 

SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #758
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What is Birmingham’s net spending at from last summer to now?
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Figures taken from Transfermarkt (hence in Euros) - net spend of €34.21m.
 
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Lamps

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  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #759
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What is Birmingham’s net spending at from last summer to now?
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More importantly how much have they spent on transfers that counts towards this seasons accounts. They're allowed to run at a loss of 39m over a rolling 3 year period in the Championship. Their time in League 1 were more to do with players wages. Could it be they go for it this season then struggle to keep within the rules after 1 season?
 
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SkyBluePower

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #760
SBAndy said:
Figures taken from Transfermarkt (hence in Euros) - net spend of €34.21m.
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Wow. Even given a bit of inaccuracy from transfrmarkt that’s still some net sum- and they haven’t finished yet. That’s parachute payment type spending.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #761
Lamps said:
More importantly how much have they spent on transfers that counts towards this seasons accounts. They're allowed to run at a loss of 39m over a rolling 3 year period in the Championship. Their time in League 1 were more to do with players wages. Could it be they go for it this season then struggle to keep within the rules after 1 season?
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Essentially yes. They can play slightly fast and loose in season 1. With some very creative accounting they might be able to go through 2 years. After that, without promotion, they will be fucked.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #762
Liquid Gold said:
Essentially yes. They can play slightly fast and loose in season 1. With some very creative accounting they might be able to go through 2 years. After that, without promotion, they will be fucked.
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Or they could try and do a Leicester

How would selling their ground change things? They paid £51 recently for the land to build a new stadium. They have received grants of nearly £20m for clearing the ground which is contaminated. The work has already started.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #763
Lamps said:
Or they could try and do a Leicester

How would selling their ground change things? They paid £51 recently for the land to build a new stadium. They have received grants of nearly £20m for clearing the ground which is contaminated. The work has already started.
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£51 for land is a bargain even with a £20m cleaning bill
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #764
Knight head will be making 120k for every 1m they spend.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #765
David O'Day said:
Knight head will be making 120k for every 1m they spend.
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Why?
 

SBAndy

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  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #766
David O'Day said:
Knight head will be making 120k for every 1m they spend.
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And as we saw there won’t be the cash flow to service the interest so it’ll compound until it reaches a horrifying figure.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #767
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Why?
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£100m facility agreement which has a fixed interest rate of nearly £12% attached.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2025
  • #768
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Why?
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Because it's a loan payable with interest, BCFC have been spending a big load the owners gave them and it doesn't look like it is the kind of loan lots of owners do when they just right it off.

I may have the maths wrong but the owners are charging the club a not insignificant interest rate for money they spend.

They may in future earn enough to not do this but apart from waffle from the chairman there's no evidence that is happening yet.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 8, 2025
  • #769
Anybody seen Tyler Bindon's ' Hi Blades' post to Sheffield Utd fans ? Camp barely sums it up. Know little about the lad, but you wouldn't have him down as a Central defender, listening to that!
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jul 8, 2025
  • #770
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Anybody seen Tyler Bindon's ' Hi Blades' post to Sheffield Utd fans ? Camp barely sums it up. Know little about the lad, but you wouldn't have him down as a Central defender, listening to that!
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Its his accent I think
 
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