Championship thread 25/26! (2 Viewers)

David O'Day · 2025-06-20T09:40:42+0100

I think the Championship FFP is stricter than the lower leagues version as well, think I read something about how the rules on owner funding is a lot tighter etc.

Also noises coming out of Wrexham seem like they are not going all in this year and the signing of Hardie points at a more sensible approach for this league.

David O'Day · 2025-06-20T09:42:20+0100

Also remember the Bluenoses are buying everything on 12% tic

KenilworthSkyBlue · 2025-06-20T09:42:34+0100

fernandopartridge said:
Birmingham's operating losses for 2023 and 2024 combined are already £56m

I suspect they'll go hell for leather to try to get promoted this season and deal with the consequences later.

Their only real strategy for mitigating their likely still massive losses seems to be to drive commercial revenue to be on par with clubs receiving parachute payments - which Wagner hilariously seems highly confident of.

fernandopartridge · 2025-06-20T09:42:49+0100

Saw some nause Blues fan on Facebook claim that they were probably the most attractive club for a player outside of the PL

TomRad85 · 2025-06-20T09:43:49+0100

fernandopartridge said:
Saw some nause Blues fan on Facebook claim that they were probably the most attractive club for a player outside of the PL

They are a completely delusional, unbearable bunch of lunatics.

KenilworthSkyBlue · 2025-06-20T09:54:49+0100

fernandopartridge said:
Saw some nause Blues fan on Facebook claim that they were probably the most attractive club for a player outside of the PL

A symptom of having an owner that is genuinely on par with Trump with some of the sensationalist nonsense he comes out with.

David O'Day · 2025-06-20T09:57:56+0100

TomRad85 said:
They are a completely delusional, unbearable bunch of lunatics.

Anymore of that talk and some folk will get upset at you just because they rented us their pitch at the market value.

TomRad85 · 2025-06-20T10:01:30+0100

David O'Day said:
Anymore of that talk and some folk will get upset at you just because they rented us their pitch at the market value.

Anyone with their noses in the arses of those absolute wankers can get in the bin and if any such people are reading this, i'm ashamed we support the same club. Blues fans are fucking horrible, and stupid.

HJones23 · 2025-06-20T10:05:30+0100

fernandopartridge said:
Saw some nause Blues fan on Facebook claim that they were probably the most attractive club for a player outside of the PL

I find it bizarre they ignore it was the same ownership that took them from the play offs to be relegated. It's going to be really interesting to see how long they stick with Davies as manager when reality hits and they are not 10 points clear by October, I could seem them look to make another Hollywood appointment

Sky Blue Goblin · 2025-06-20T10:07:21+0100

fernandopartridge said:
Saw some nause Blues fan on Facebook claim that they were probably the most attractive club for a player outside of the PL

Would love to hear their reasoning as think it’s nonsense.

Players care mostly about three things, Coaching and Facilities, Match time, and Wages. Obviously Birmingham appear to have good facilities after buying wasps old training ground, but imagine other sides have better looking at Southampton, Sheffield United and Norwich as recent premiership teams which were there for a little bit of time.

Chris Davies for Me has a big season to prove himself as one of the better coaches since last year was heavily skewered by the funds given. Again if I was a player, Will Still, Kieran McKenna, Jon Eustace, Danny Rohl or Frank Lampard would all appeal for me over him.

Wages is again something they can definitely offer on the higher end but surely not as much as any of the parachute teams.

Brighton Sky Blue · 2025-06-20T10:13:05+0100

fernandopartridge said:
Saw some nause Blues fan on Facebook claim that they were probably the most attractive club for a player outside of the PL

Not even in the top 6 for that

procdoc · 2025-06-20T10:25:19+0100

I really hope it goes tits up at Birmingham and they completely implode

TomRad85 · 2025-06-20T10:27:39+0100

procdoc said:
I really hope it goes tits up at Birmingham and they completely implode

Seems to all revolve around HS2, which is weird. Hopefully that implodes and there is a chain reaction.

Brighton Sky Blue · 2025-06-20T10:27:54+0100

It’s almost like Harry Enfield predicted this exact eventuality. Birmingham fans now are basically clones of this

KenilworthSkyBlue · 2025-06-20T10:30:55+0100

procdoc said:
I really hope it goes tits up at Birmingham and they completely implode

I don't really see how it won't to be honest.

Everything Wagner has actually proposed from the 60k capacity stadium to claims that they're going to have the most revenue of any Championship club ever who hasn't received parachute payments is complete fantasy.

Balli001 · 2025-06-20T10:38:36+0100

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I don't really see how it won't to be honest.

Everything Wagner has actually proposed from the 60k capacity stadium to claims that they're going to have the most revenue of any Championship club ever who hasn't received parachute payments is complete fantasy.

The staidum looks a lot more viable now the government are on board with the surrounding infrastructure

KenilworthSkyBlue · 2025-06-20T10:45:09+0100

Balli001 said:
The staidum looks a lot more viable now the government are on board with the surrounding infrastructure

Agreed the government funding for the tram line suggests it's a lot more likely than previously thought. Assuming a stadium will indeed be built though it's categorically not going to be anywhere near a 60k capacity arena.

That's not at all viable.

fernandopartridge · 2025-06-20T11:05:11+0100

Balli001 said:
The staidum looks a lot more viable now the government are on board with the surrounding infrastructure

They've just delayed HS2 by two more years

Macca1987 · 2025-06-20T11:06:22+0100

I think it was mooted that the 60k Blues stadium was going to be 2028, at least they will be back in League 1 by then

Sky_Blue_Daz · 2025-06-20T11:20:33+0100

Rumours on X that Birmingham are trying to Sign Kyogo from Rennes not done much there but I was always impressed by him when he played for Celtic

David O'Day · 2025-06-20T11:26:13+0100

Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Rumours on X that Birmingham are trying to Sign Kyogo from Rennes not done much there but I was always impressed by him when he played for Celtic

be surprised if that happens, left Celtic as the Japan coach said he needed too show himself at a higher level than Celtic who are a champions league team.

Blues will be linked with load this summer, don't be shocked if they are convincing themselves Messi has a nan from Digbeth soon.

SBAndy · 2025-06-20T11:27:24+0100

David O'Day said:
I think the Championship FFP is stricter than the lower leagues version as well, think I read something about how the rules on owner funding is a lot tighter etc.

Also noises coming out of Wrexham seem like they are not going all in this year and the signing of Hardie points at a more sensible approach for this league.

It’s not so much the ‘owner contribution’ angle - L1 and L2 have restrictions on how much turnover can be spent on wages, that’s it. You could theoretically spend £500m on signing players as long as their wages were no more than 60% (L1) or 55% (L2) of your turnover. Stepping up to the Championship it becomes a full P&L focus so transfer fees, etc then form part of the calculation. An owner could still pump money in but the core of the club would need to be at least self-sufficient (including player trading) for it not to immediately throw the club into special measures.

TomRad85 · 2025-06-20T11:28:30+0100

David O'Day said:
be surprised if that happens, left Celtic as the Japan coach said he needed too show himself at a higher level than Celtic who are a champions league team.

Blues will be linked with load this summer, don't be shocked if they are convincing themselves Messi has a nan from Digbeth soon.

Tbf it doesn't look like he's done much in France and proves you need to be careful when spending big on a player from a league like the SPL. Adam Idah must have a similar scoring record to Kyogo at least?

David O'Day · 2025-06-20T11:29:16+0100

SBAndy said:
It’s not so much the ‘owner contribution’ angle - L1 and L2 have restrictions on how much turnover can be spent on wages, that’s it. You could theoretically spend £500m on signing players as long as their wages were no more than 60% (L1) or 55% (L2) of your turnover. Stepping up to the Championship it becomes a full P&L focus so transfer fees, etc then form part of the calculation. An owner could still pump money in but the core of the club would need to be at least self-sufficient (including player trading) for it not to immediately throw the club into special measures.

cheers, i knew they they were much stricter at this level

fernandopartridge · 2025-06-20T12:24:44+0100

Sky Blue Goblin said:
Would love to hear their reasoning as think it’s nonsense.

Players care mostly about three things, Coaching and Facilities, Match time, and Wages. Obviously Birmingham appear to have good facilities after buying wasps old training ground, but imagine other sides have better looking at Southampton, Sheffield United and Norwich as recent premiership teams which were there for a little bit of time.

Chris Davies for Me has a big season to prove himself as one of the better coaches since last year was heavily skewered by the funds given. Again if I was a player, Will Still, Kieran McKenna, Jon Eustace, Danny Rohl or Frank Lampard would all appeal for me over him.

Wages is again something they can definitely offer on the higher end but surely not as much as any of the parachute teams.

As much as Leicester have got their problems, they have got outstanding facilities that are way above the level of the ex college training pitch Wasps use and most teams in the country (not just the Championship). Just because Wasps called it an "elite training centre" doesn't mean it is.

https://mclarengroup.com/projects/leicesterfc/

Southampton:

Southampton Football Club Training Facility

Southampton Football Club’s Staplewood Training Club, by AFL Architects, provides state of the art facilities for the club’s first team and its youth academy.

www.afl-architects.com

Birmingham City

https://www.bcfc.com/pages/en/media-article/blues-extend-henley-in-arden-stay

Birmingham's place looks similar to Ryton in level of facility

Balli001 · 2025-06-20T12:29:12+0100

fernandopartridge said:
They've just delayed HS2 by two more years

Difference here is that Blues owners are more than happy to offer nice gifts to help them get permission

fernandopartridge · 2025-06-20T12:33:37+0100

Balli001 said:
Difference here is that Blues owners are more than happy to offer nice gifts to help them get permission

Gifts to whom - they can't buy planning permission

fatso · 2025-06-20T12:40:32+0100

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Agreed the government funding for the tram line suggests it's a lot more likely than previously thought. Assuming a stadium will indeed be built though it's categorically not going to be anywhere near a 60k capacity arena.

That's not at all viable.

It's only viable if they plan to rent it to us in the future

shepardo01 · 2025-06-20T18:42:44+0100

fernandopartridge said:
As much as Leicester have got their problems, they have got outstanding facilities that are way above the level of the ex college training pitch Wasps use and most teams in the country (not just the Championship). Just because Wasps called it an "elite training centre" doesn't mean it is.

https://mclarengroup.com/projects/leicesterfc/

Southampton:

Southampton Football Club Training Facility

Southampton Football Club’s Staplewood Training Club, by AFL Architects, provides state of the art facilities for the club’s first team and its youth academy.

www.afl-architects.com

Birmingham City

https://www.bcfc.com/pages/en/media-article/blues-extend-henley-in-arden-stay

Birmingham's place looks similar to Ryton in level of facility

Birmingham train at Wasps old facility that they nabbed off Warwickshire College Group.

shepardo01 · 2025-06-20T18:43:42+0100

More on Sheffield United's AI recruitment approach. Apparently a limit on overseas players - which I don't think I was aware of!?

shepardo01 · 2025-06-20T19:14:22+0100

Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Rumours on X that Birmingham are trying to Sign Kyogo from Rennes not done much there but I was always impressed by him when he played for Celtic

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