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David O'Day

David O'Day

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I think the Championship FFP is stricter than the lower leagues version as well, think I read something about how the rules on owner funding is a lot tighter etc.

Also noises coming out of Wrexham seem like they are not going all in this year and the signing of Hardie points at a more sensible approach for this league.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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fernandopartridge said:
Birmingham's operating losses for 2023 and 2024 combined are already £56m
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I suspect they'll go hell for leather to try to get promoted this season and deal with the consequences later.

Their only real strategy for mitigating their likely still massive losses seems to be to drive commercial revenue to be on par with clubs receiving parachute payments - which Wagner hilariously seems highly confident of.
 
TomRad85

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David O'Day said:
Anymore of that talk and some folk will get upset at you just because they rented us their pitch at the market value.
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Anyone with their noses in the arses of those absolute wankers can get in the bin and if any such people are reading this, i'm ashamed we support the same club. Blues fans are fucking horrible, and stupid.
 
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HJones23

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fernandopartridge said:
Saw some nause Blues fan on Facebook claim that they were probably the most attractive club for a player outside of the PL :ROFLMAO:
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I find it bizarre they ignore it was the same ownership that took them from the play offs to be relegated. It's going to be really interesting to see how long they stick with Davies as manager when reality hits and they are not 10 points clear by October, I could seem them look to make another Hollywood appointment
 
Sky Blue Goblin

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fernandopartridge said:
Saw some nause Blues fan on Facebook claim that they were probably the most attractive club for a player outside of the PL :ROFLMAO:
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Would love to hear their reasoning as think it’s nonsense.

Players care mostly about three things, Coaching and Facilities, Match time, and Wages. Obviously Birmingham appear to have good facilities after buying wasps old training ground, but imagine other sides have better looking at Southampton, Sheffield United and Norwich as recent premiership teams which were there for a little bit of time.

Chris Davies for Me has a big season to prove himself as one of the better coaches since last year was heavily skewered by the funds given. Again if I was a player, Will Still, Kieran McKenna, Jon Eustace, Danny Rohl or Frank Lampard would all appeal for me over him.

Wages is again something they can definitely offer on the higher end but surely not as much as any of the parachute teams.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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procdoc said:
I really hope it goes tits up at Birmingham and they completely implode
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I don't really see how it won't to be honest.

Everything Wagner has actually proposed from the 60k capacity stadium to claims that they're going to have the most revenue of any Championship club ever who hasn't received parachute payments is complete fantasy.
 
Balli001

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I don't really see how it won't to be honest.

Everything Wagner has actually proposed from the 60k capacity stadium to claims that they're going to have the most revenue of any Championship club ever who hasn't received parachute payments is complete fantasy.
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The staidum looks a lot more viable now the government are on board with the surrounding infrastructure
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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Balli001 said:
The staidum looks a lot more viable now the government are on board with the surrounding infrastructure
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Agreed the government funding for the tram line suggests it's a lot more likely than previously thought. Assuming a stadium will indeed be built though it's categorically not going to be anywhere near a 60k capacity arena.

That's not at all viable.
 
Sky_Blue_Daz

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Rumours on X that Birmingham are trying to Sign Kyogo from Rennes not done much there but I was always impressed by him when he played for Celtic
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Rumours on X that Birmingham are trying to Sign Kyogo from Rennes not done much there but I was always impressed by him when he played for Celtic
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be surprised if that happens, left Celtic as the Japan coach said he needed too show himself at a higher level than Celtic who are a champions league team.

Blues will be linked with load this summer, don't be shocked if they are convincing themselves Messi has a nan from Digbeth soon.
 
SBAndy

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David O'Day said:
I think the Championship FFP is stricter than the lower leagues version as well, think I read something about how the rules on owner funding is a lot tighter etc.

Also noises coming out of Wrexham seem like they are not going all in this year and the signing of Hardie points at a more sensible approach for this league.
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It’s not so much the ‘owner contribution’ angle - L1 and L2 have restrictions on how much turnover can be spent on wages, that’s it. You could theoretically spend £500m on signing players as long as their wages were no more than 60% (L1) or 55% (L2) of your turnover. Stepping up to the Championship it becomes a full P&L focus so transfer fees, etc then form part of the calculation. An owner could still pump money in but the core of the club would need to be at least self-sufficient (including player trading) for it not to immediately throw the club into special measures.
 
TomRad85

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David O'Day said:
be surprised if that happens, left Celtic as the Japan coach said he needed too show himself at a higher level than Celtic who are a champions league team.

Blues will be linked with load this summer, don't be shocked if they are convincing themselves Messi has a nan from Digbeth soon.
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Tbf it doesn't look like he's done much in France and proves you need to be careful when spending big on a player from a league like the SPL. Adam Idah must have a similar scoring record to Kyogo at least?
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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SBAndy said:
It’s not so much the ‘owner contribution’ angle - L1 and L2 have restrictions on how much turnover can be spent on wages, that’s it. You could theoretically spend £500m on signing players as long as their wages were no more than 60% (L1) or 55% (L2) of your turnover. Stepping up to the Championship it becomes a full P&L focus so transfer fees, etc then form part of the calculation. An owner could still pump money in but the core of the club would need to be at least self-sufficient (including player trading) for it not to immediately throw the club into special measures.
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cheers, i knew they they were much stricter at this level
 
fernandopartridge

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Sky Blue Goblin said:
Would love to hear their reasoning as think it’s nonsense.

Players care mostly about three things, Coaching and Facilities, Match time, and Wages. Obviously Birmingham appear to have good facilities after buying wasps old training ground, but imagine other sides have better looking at Southampton, Sheffield United and Norwich as recent premiership teams which were there for a little bit of time.

Chris Davies for Me has a big season to prove himself as one of the better coaches since last year was heavily skewered by the funds given. Again if I was a player, Will Still, Kieran McKenna, Jon Eustace, Danny Rohl or Frank Lampard would all appeal for me over him.

Wages is again something they can definitely offer on the higher end but surely not as much as any of the parachute teams.
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As much as Leicester have got their problems, they have got outstanding facilities that are way above the level of the ex college training pitch Wasps use and most teams in the country (not just the Championship). Just because Wasps called it an "elite training centre" doesn't mean it is.


Southampton:

www.afl-architects.com

Southampton Football Club Training Facility

Southampton Football Club’s Staplewood Training Club, by AFL Architects, provides state of the art facilities for the club’s first team and its youth academy.
www.afl-architects.com www.afl-architects.com

Birmingham City


Birmingham's place looks similar to Ryton in level of facility
 
fatso

fatso

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Agreed the government funding for the tram line suggests it's a lot more likely than previously thought. Assuming a stadium will indeed be built though it's categorically not going to be anywhere near a 60k capacity arena.

That's not at all viable.
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It's only viable if they plan to rent it to us in the future 🤣🤣🤣
 
shepardo01

shepardo01

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fernandopartridge said:
As much as Leicester have got their problems, they have got outstanding facilities that are way above the level of the ex college training pitch Wasps use and most teams in the country (not just the Championship). Just because Wasps called it an "elite training centre" doesn't mean it is.


Southampton:

www.afl-architects.com

Southampton Football Club Training Facility

Southampton Football Club’s Staplewood Training Club, by AFL Architects, provides state of the art facilities for the club’s first team and its youth academy.
www.afl-architects.com www.afl-architects.com

Birmingham City


Birmingham's place looks similar to Ryton in level of facility
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Birmingham train at Wasps old facility that they nabbed off Warwickshire College Group.
 
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