Championship Teams In's and Out's (9 Viewers)

[ashbyjan]

Barnsley
ins: David Perkins(Colchester), Craig Davies(Chesterfield), Matt Done(Rochdale), Scott Wiseman(Rochdale), Miles Addison(Derby loan), Jim McNulty(Brighton), Rob Edwards(Blackpool), Ricardo Vaz Te(Hibernian), Danny Drinkwater(Man Utd loan), Cameron Park(Middlesbrough loan)
outs: Hugo Colace, Martin Devaney(Tranmere), Conor Branson, Danny Fearnehough, Steven Bennett, Matt Hill(Blackpool), Liam Dickinson(Southend), Garry O'Connor(Hibs), Jason Shackell(Derby), Kern Miller(Accrington Stanley)

Birmingham
ins: Chris Burke(Cardiff), Marlon King(Coventry), Morgaro Gomis(Dundee United), Adam Rooney(Inverness), Steven Caldwell(Wigan), Boaz Myhill(West Brom), Jonathan Spector(West Ham), Chris Wood(West Brom), Guirane N'Daw(St Etienne loan), Jack Deaman(Wrexham), Wade Elliott(Burnley), Pablo Ibanez(West Brom)
outs: Marcus Bent, Sebastian Larsson(Birmingham), Martin Jiranek(FC Krasnodar), Mitch McPike, James O'Shea(MK Dons), Robin Shroot(Stevenage), Dan Preston, Luke Rowe, Kevin Phillips(Blackpool), Lee Bowyer(Ipswich), Maik Taylor, Stuart Parnaby, James McFadden, Craig Gardner(Sunderland), Roger Johnson(Wolves), Barry Ferguson(Blackpool), Ben Foster(West Brom loan), Michel(Getafe), Cameron Jerome(Stoke), Scott Dann(Blackburn)

Blackpool
ins: Bojan Djordjic(Videoton), Matt Hill(Barnsley), Kevin Phillips(Birmingham), Miguel Angel Llera (Charlton), Gerardo Bruna(Liverpool), Barry Ferguson(Birmingham), Bob Harris(Queen of the South), Paul Bignot(Newport), Angel Martinez(Girona), Craig Sutherland(USA college football), Tom Ince(Liverpool), James Hurst(Blackpool loan), Daniel Bogdanovic(Sheff Utd)
outs: Paul Rachubka, Marlon Harewood(Shenzhen Phoenix), Richard Kingson, Danny Coid(Accrington Stanley), Malaury Martin(Middlesbrough), Jason Euell(Charlton), David Carney, Andy Reid(Notts Forest), Salaheddine Sbai, Ishmel Demontagnac(Notts County), Rob Edwards(Barnsley), David Vaughan(Sunderland), Charlie Adam(Liverpool), DJ Campbell(QPR), Ashley Eastham(Bury loan), Thomas Barkhuizen(Hereford loan)

Brighton
ins: Will Hoskins(Bristol Rovers), Anton Rodgers(Chelsea), Ben Sampayo(Chelsea), Will Buckley(Watford), Roland Bergkamp(Excelsior), Craig Mackail-Smith(Peterborough), Kazenga LuaLua(Newcastle loan), Romain Vincelot(Dag& Red), Ryan Harley(Swansea)
outs: Radostin Kishishev, Gary Hart, Christian Baz, Augustin Battipiedi, Francisco Sandaza(St Johnstone), Chris Holroyd(Rotherham), Glenn Murray(Crystal Palace), Elliott Bennett(Norwich), James Tunnicliffe(Wycombe)

Bristol City
ins: Yannick Bolasie(Plymouth), Ryan Taylor(Rotherham), Neil Kilkenny(Leeds), Jordan Spence(West Ham loan), Ryan McGivern(Man City loan)
outs: Ivan Sproule(Hibernian), John Akinde(Crawley Town), Patrick Hoban, Jimmy Keohane(Exeter), Stephen Henderson(Portsmouth), Lee Johnson(Chesterfield loan)

Burnley
ins: Ben Mee(Man City loan), Keiran Trippier(Man City loan), Keith Treacy(Preston), Jon Stewart(Bournemouth), Danny Ings(Bournemouth), Zavon Hines(West Ham), Junior Stanislas(West Ham)
outs:Steven Thompson(St.Mirren), Kevin McDonald(Sheff Utd), Remco Van Der Schaaf, Graham Alexander(Preston), Clarke Carlisle(Preston loan), Chris Iwelumo(Watford), Chris Eagles(Bolton), Tyrone Mears(Bolton), Kevin Long(Accrington loan), Danny Fox(Southampton), Wes Fletcher(Accrington loan), Alex-Ray Harvey(Fleetwood loan), Richard Eckersley (Toronto FC loan), Joe McKee(St Mirren loan), Dean Overson(Bradford), Leon Cort(Charlton loan), Wade Elliott(Birmingham)

Cardiff
ins: Craig Conway(Dundee United), Andrew Taylor(Middlesbrough), Don Cowie(Watford), Robert Earnshaw(Notts Forest), Aron Gunnarsson(Coventry), Joe Mason(Plymouth), Filip Kiss(Slovan Bratislava), Kenny Miller(Bursaspor), Rudy Gestede(Metz), Ben Turner(Coventry)
outs:Jay Bothroyd(QPR), Chris Burke(Birmingham), Gavin Rae, Sameth Al-Basith, Steffan Jones, Martin John, Adam Matthews(Celtic), Michael Chopra(Ipswich), Chris Riggott (Derby)

Coventry
ins: Joe Murphy(Scunthorpe), Chris Dunn(Northampton), Cody McDonald(Norwich)
outs: Lee Carsley, Michael McIndoe, Isaac Osbourne(Aberdeen), Stephen O’Halloran(Carlisle), Michael Quirke, Marlon King(Birmingham), Keiren Westwood(Sunderland), Aron Gunnarsson(Cardiff), Ben Turner(Cardiff)

Crystal Palace
ins: Glenn Murray(Brighton), Kagisho Dikgacoi(Fulham), Mile Jedinak (Gençlerbirliği), Jonathan Parr(Aalesund), Ryan McGivern(Man City loan) and Andrew Davies(Stoke loan), Peter Ramage(QPR loan), Aleksandar Tunchev(Leicester loan), Anthony Gardner(Hull)
outs: Claude Davis, Pablo Counago, Gavin Mahon, Kieran Djilali(AFC Wimbledon), Neil Danns(Leicester), Alassane N'Diaye, Adam Barrett(Bournemouth)

Derby County
ins: Frank Fielding(Blackburn), Jamie Ward(Sheff Utd), Theo Robinson(Millwall), Chris McGuire(Aberdeen), Craig Bryson(Kilmarnock), Nathan Tyson(Forest), Jason Shackell(Barnsley), Adam Legzdins(Burton), Kevin Kilbane(Hull loan), Chris Riggott(Cardiff)
outs: Robbie Savage(Retired), Chris Porter,(Sheff Utd), Greg Mills, Arnuad Mendy, Ben Pringle(Rotherham), Michael Boulding, Miles Addison(Barnsleyloan), Luke Varney(Portsmouth), Ross Atkins(Burton loan)

Doncaster Rovers
ins: Richard Naylor(leeds), Tommy Spurr(Sheff Wed), Kyle Bennett(Bury), James Baxendale(Leeds), Chris Brown(Preston), Ryan Mason(Tottenham loan), Rachid Bouhenna(Sedan), Oscar Radford(Ferencvaros), Gilles Barnes(West Brom), Reece Brown(Man Utd loan), Milan Lalkovic (Chelsea loan)
outs:Steve Brooker, Byron Webster(Northampton Town), Wayne Thomas, Dennis Souza, Bradley Grayson(Frickley), Ryan Burge(Port Vale), Waide Fairhurst(Macclesfield), Dean Shiels(Kilmarnock loan)

Hull City
ins: Joe Dudgeon(Man Utd), Corry Evans(Man Utd), Paul McKenna(Notts Forest), Jack Hobbs(Leicester), Dele Adebola(Nottm Forest), Peter Gulacsi(Hull), Robbie Brady(Man Utd loan), Adriano Basso(Wolves), Martin Pusic(SC Rheindorf), Martyn Waghorn(Leicester loan)
outs: Matt Duke(Bradford), Craig Fagan, Anthony Gardner(Anthony Gardner), Tijani Belaid, Nolberto Solano(Hartlepool), Liam Cooper(Huddersfield Loan), Mark Cullen(Bury Loan), Kevin Kilbane(Derby loan), Will Atkinson(Plymouth Argyle loan), Khamel Gillas(Reims), Jimmy Bullard(Ipswich), Jamie Devitt(Bradford loan), Jay Simpson(Millwall loan)

Ipswich Town
ins: Michael Chopra(Cardiff), Ivar Ingimarsson(Reading), Nathan Ellington(Watford), Aaron Cresswell(Tranmere), Lee Bowyer(Birmingham), David Stockdale(Fulham loan), Jay Emmanuel-Thomas(Arsenal), Keith Andrews(Blackburn loan), Daryl Murphy(Celtic loan), Ibrahima Sonko(Stoke), Jimmy Bullard(Hull)
outs: Reggie Lambe, Brian Murphy(QPR), Gareth McAuley(West Brom), David Norris(Portsmouth), Tom Eastman(Colchester), Troy Brown(Rotherham), Connor Wickham(Sunderland), Josh Meekings(Inverness), Rory McKeown(Kilmarnock), Ian McLoughlin(MK Dons), Luca Civelli, Conor Hourihane(Plymouth), Martin Fulop(West Brom), Jamie Griffiths(Plymouth loan)

Leeds United
ins: Paul Rachubka(Blackpool), Michael Brown(Portsmouth), Andrew Lonergan(Preston), Darren O'Dea (Celtic loan), Andrew Keogh(Wolves loan)
outs: Richard Naylor(Doncaster), Shane Higgs, Brendon Cardwell, James Baxendale(Doncaster), Jonny Birbeck, James Booker(Guiseley), Bradley Johnson(Norwich), Neil Kilkenny(Bristol City), Kasper Schmeichel(Leicester). Mike Grella(Brentford), Max Gradel(St.Etienne), Federico Bessone(Swansea)

Leicester City
ins: Lee Peltier(Huddersfield), Neil Danns(Palace), Kasper Schmeichel(Leeds), Sean St Ledger(Preston), David Nugent(Portsmouth), Matt Mills(Reading) Paul Konchesky(Liverpool), John Pantsil(Fulham), Michael Johnson(Man City loan), Jason Banton(Arsenal), Gelson Fernandes(St Etienne), Michael Ball(unatt), Callum Webb(Arsenal), Steven Smith(Arsenal), Jermaine Beckford(Everton)
outs: Ricardo, Robert Ambrusics, Ashley Chambers, Nathan Hicks, Jorrin John, Craig King(Telford), Ben Milnes, Luke O'Neill(Mansfield), Aman Verma(Kettering), Adi Yussuf(Burton), Michael Lamey(Wisla Krakow), Jack Hobbs(Hull), Cian Bolger(Bristol Rovers loan), Conrad Logan(Rotherham loan), Robbie Neilson, Tom Parkes(Burton loan), Liam Moore(Bradford loan), Dany N'Guessan(Millwall loan), Elliott Chamberlain(Stockport loan), Leon Crncic, Shane Byrne(Bury loan), Martyn Waghorn(Hull loan)

Middlesbrough
ins: Curtis Main(Darlington), Luke Dobie(Everton), Malaury Martin(Blackpool), Carl Ikeme(Wolves loan), Faris Haroun(Germinal Beerschot)
outs: Willo Flood(Dundee United), Maxi Haas. Philip Shead, Oni Roushias, Patrick Otte, Kieran Edwards, James Gray, Connor Sellars, Marinos Andreou, Andrew Taylor(Cardiff), Kris Boyd(Eskisehirspor), Ashley Corker(Northampton), Didier Digard (Nice), Ben Gibson(Plymouth loan), Leroy Lita(Swansea), Lee Miller(Carlisle), Jonathan Grounds(Chesterfield loan), Jonathan Franks(Oxford loan)

Millwall
ins: Ryan Allsop(WBA), Therry Racon(Charlton), Darius Henderson(Sheff Utd), Jordan Stewart(Skoda Xanthi), Dany N'Guessan(Leicester), Liam Feeney(Bournemouth), Jay Simpson(Hull loan)
outs: Andy Frampton(Gillingham), Ashley Grimes(Rochdale), Marc Laird(Leyton Orient), Pat O'Connor, Danny Schofield(Rotherham), Kiernan Hughes-Mason, John Sullivan(Charlton), Theo Robinson(Derby), Steve Morrison(Norwich), Neil Harris(Southend)

 

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[ashbyjan]

Nottingham Forest
ins: Andy Reid(Blackpool), Jonathan Greening(Fulham), George Boateng(unatt), Matt Derbyshire (Olympiakos). Ishmael Miller(West Brom)
outs: Kelvin Wilson(Celtic), Nathan Tyson(Derby), Paul McKenna(Hull), Mark Byrne(Barnet), Nialle Rodney(Bradford), Dele Adebola(Hull), Julian Bennett(Sheff Wed), Robert Earnshaw(Cardiff), Joe Garner(Watford)

Peterborough United
ins: Paul Jones (Exeter City), Ryan Tunnicliffe(Man Utd loan), Scott Wootton(Man Utd loan), Nicky Ajose(Man Utd), Craig Alcock(Yeovil). James Wesolowski(Oldham), Josh Thompson(Celtic loan), Ben Gordon(Chelsea loan), Daniel Kearns(Dundalk), Emile Sinclair(Macclesfield)
outs: Romone McCrae, Rene Howe(Torquay), Nana Ofori-Twumasi(Northampton), Dominic Green, Arron Davies(Northampton), Chris Whelpdale(Gillingham), Charlie Lee(Gillingham), Craig Mackail-Smith(Brighton), Exodus Geohaghon(Barnet), Danny Mills(Tamworth loan), Kelvin Langmead(Northampton loan), Carl Piergianni(Stockport), David Ball(Rochdale loan)

Portsmouth
ins: David Norris(Ipswich), Jason Pearce(Bournemouth), Stephen Henderson(Bristol City), Luke Varney(Derby), Greg Halford(Wolves), Christian Dailly(Charlton), Benjani(Blackburn), Erik Huseklepp(Bari), Marko Futacs(Werder Bremen), Jed Wallace(Lewes)
outs: David Nugent(Leicester), Hermann Hreidarsson, Michael Brown(Leeds), Darryl Flahavan(Bournemouth), Billy Goddard, Pete Gregory, Richard Hughes, Tom Kilbey, Ellis Martin, Marlon Pack(Cheltenham), Perry Ryan, Danny Webber, Nadir Ciftci(Kayserispor)

Reading
ins: Mikele Leigtertwood (QPR), Bongani Khumalo(Tottenham loan), Kaspars Gorkss(QPR), Adam Le Fondre(Rotherham)
outs: Scott Davies(Crawley), Julian Kelly(Notts Co), Ivar Ingimarsson(Ipswich), James Rowe(Forest Green), Danny Joyce, Abdulai Bell-Baggie(Yeovil), Erik Opsahl, Matt Mills(Leicester), David Mooney(Leyton Orient), Jake Taylor(Aldershot loan), Ben Hamer(Charlton), Nicholas Bignall(Exeter loan), Shane Long(West Brom), Michail Antonio(Colchester loan), Brett Williams(Rotherham loan)

Southampton
ins: Jack Cork(Chelsea), Steve De Ridder(De Graafschap), Danny Fox(Burnley), Jos Hooiveld(Celtic loan)
outs:Anthony Pulis(Aldershot), Sam Argent, Tony Garrod, Callum McNish(Exeter), Ryan Tafazoll, Oscar Gobern(Huddersfield), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain(Arsenal), Ryan Doble(Bournemouth loan)

Watford
ins: Craig Forsyth(Dundee Utd), David Mirfin(Scunthorpe), Mark Yeates(Sheff Utd), Prince Bauben(Dundee utd), Chris Iwelumo(Burnley), Carl Dickinson(Stoke), Tom James(Stratford), Andreas Weimann(Aston Villa loan), Jonathan Hogg(Aston Villa), Joe Garner(N.Forest)
outs: Liam Henderson(York), Will Buckley(Brighton), Danny Graham(Swansea), Tom Aldred(Inverness loan), Nathan Ellington(Ipswich), Mat Sadler(Walsall), Rob Kiernan, Don Cowie(Cardiff), Michael Bryan(Bradford loan), Adam Thompson(Brentford loan), Josh Walker(Stevenage loan)

West Ham
ins: Abdoulaye Faye(Stoke), Kevin Nolan(Newcastle), Matt Taylor(Bolton), Joey O'Brien(Bolton), John Carew(Aston Villa), George McCartney(Sunderland loan), Sam Baldock(MK Dons), Brian Montenegro(Deportivo Maldonado loan), Papa Boupa Diop(AEK), Henri Lansbury(Arsenal loan), David Bentley(Tottenham loan),Guy Demel(Hamburg)
outs:Matthew Upson(Stoke), Kieron Dyer(QPR), Demba Ba(Newcastle), Thomas Hitzlsperger(Wolfsburg), Anthony Edgar(Yeovil), Holmar Eyjolfsson, Daniel Gabbidon(QPR), Lars Jacobsen, Filip Modelski, Jonathan Spector(Birmingham), Adam Street, Manuel da Costa(Lokomotiv Moscow), Radoslave Kovac(Basel), Luis Boa Morte, Jordan Spence(Bristol City loan), Olly Lee(Dag & Red loan), Cristian Montano(Notts County loan), Zavon Hines(Burnley), Pablo Barrera(Real Zaragoza loan), Ahmed Abdulla(Swindon loan), Jordan Brown(Aldershot loan), Scott Parker(Tottenham), Junior Stanislas(Burnley)

 

[BenInTurin]

I love how small our bit is compared to everyone else (barring leeds)!

 

[ashbyjan]

Overall nearly all Championship clubs have cut there squads, only 4 have marginally increased their squads. No team has signed fewer players than Cov, no team has signed fewer outfield players than us., none has actually had fewer ins and outs than us. So it seems on the surface that many are cutting squads and costs but most who are trimming squads are getting in some replacements - only teams that are truly slashing and burning like us appear to be Leeds, Reading and Bristol - what are their League positions? Sorry this is all a bit anal but it does show that its not just us cost cutting.

 

[kg82]

Bloody hell, Burnley have pretty much lost 8-9 first XI players!

 

[ccfc_Tom]

Webber and fagan still free agents then? along with koumas a couple of them instead of 2 loans could be alright.

 

[ashbyjan]

I am not defending SISU but maybe if some of the PR geniuses on our board looked at this type of info and showed that whilst we are cutting so are the rest of the division, try facts guys instead of bullshit and spin and you might start to win some hearts and minds.

 

[Astute]

Overall nearly all Championship clubs have cut there squads, only 4 have marginally increased their squads. No team has signed fewer players than Cov, no team has signed fewer outfield players than us., none has actually had fewer ins and outs than us. So it seems on the surface that many are cutting squads and costs but most who are trimming squads are getting in some replacements - only teams that are truly slashing and burning like us appear to be Leeds, Reading and Bristol - what are their League positions? Sorry this is all a bit anal but it does show that its not just us cost cutting.

This is what I have been saying for a few weeks. Not only are most teams cutting numbers but not much quality seems to be signed by many teams either. It was when I noticed this that I started looking more into what was happening everywhere else, not just at our club. I was not so much anti SISU when I saw it was just not our club.

I would say we have one of the smallest squads in this division, but we also have one of the youngest squads. We are not full of older players that will struggle to play a whole season even without injuries. We still need a couple of loans or more, mainly attacking midfielders, although it is a waste of time if they are not good enough. We are not carrying poor squad players as much as we did before.

 

[Ashdown]

It might do the opposite though when you really examine our ins to our outs and throw in the Scott Dann cash, our 4 best players out amongst them as well and all we get is two average keepers and a striker who cut it at League 2 level.
Our wage bill reduced dramatically and the liars still persist in throwing this £1/2 million loss per month garbage.
Thank God for Andy Thorn and the blessings of youth!! All that said Derby were awful so it could still go down hill fast again.

 

[Astute]

Four best players out? Now Gunnar has gone from being useless for 2 seasons to being one of the best 4 players we had :thinking about:We had both keepers on last game. Which of them looked average to you? The jury is out on McDonald though. We will see how he is after a few more games.

Derby had won 4 out of 5 league games before we played them. If they were not awful because we played well then it don't say a lot about the rest of the teams we are yet to play. Our biggest league defeat is by 1 goal. Not been outplayed in any league game either. To me we have as much chance of going up as down, and if they can keep the performances up now they have played some games together and the young players have a better Idea what it is all about then there is more chance of being in the top half than the bottom.

 

[ashbyjan]

Whilst I agree with some of your views on our lords and masters Astute I cannot agree that we have a better squad than last season - Westwood was a far better keeper than Murphy or Dunn will ever be, Gunnar has bags of potential and was showing good form at the end of the season under AT and Marlon was a class act (on the pitch) and McDonald will have to perform miracles to fill his boots. Whether they were great players Carsley and McIndoe always did a job when called upon. Yes the kids have show some promise but this is a tough league and they will need resting and then what have we to come in........ The squad is paper thin and overall poorer than last year - there may be good financial reasons for this but its a very dangerous game SISU are playing with the future of our club on the pitch.

 

[Ashdown]

2 good midfielders in on loan and we could start competing long term, but if SISU go back on their stated intentions and continue to cut corners we are more likely to remain at the bottom. Its over to you Dulally!!

 

[lordsummerisle]

Whilst I agree with some of your views on our lords and masters Astute I cannot agree that we have a better squad than last season - Westwood was a far better keeper than Murphy or Dunn will ever be, Gunnar has bags of potential and was showing good form at the end of the season under AT and Marlon was a class act (on the pitch) and McDonald will have to perform miracles to fill his boots. Whether they were great players Carsley and McIndoe always did a job when called upon. Yes the kids have show some promise but this is a tough league and they will need resting and then what have we to come in........ The squad is paper thin and overall poorer than last year - there may be good financial reasons for this but its a very dangerous game SISU are playing with the future of our club on the pitch.

Did Mcindoe play for us at all last season? Did Carsley play for us after X-mas? Can't remember.

They still need to be replaced(Though hopefully not like for like)

 

[Sky Blue Sheepy]

Whilst I agree with some of your views on our lords and masters Astute I cannot agree that we have a better squad than last season - Westwood was a far better keeper than Murphy or Dunn will ever be, Gunnar has bags of potential and was showing good form at the end of the season under AT and Marlon was a class act (on the pitch) and McDonald will have to perform miracles to fill his boots. Whether they were great players Carsley and McIndoe always did a job when called upon. Yes the kids have show some promise but this is a tough league and they will need resting and then what have we to come in........ The squad is paper thin and overall poorer than last year - there may be good financial reasons for this but its a very dangerous game SISU are playing with the future of our club on the pitch.

When did Carsley ever do a job for us?! He could shout well but I've moonwalked faster than he could run! Gunnarson was a sulk for most of the last 2 seasons, even under Thorn he was irritatingly inconsistent. McIndoe did a shift but is getting on a bit. In terms of being thin, in the midfield is the only place we are quite short - upfront we have: McDonald, McSheffrey, Platt, Wilson, O'Donovan & Jutkiewicz, not all top class but most can do a job. In defence we have: McPake, Cranie, Hussey, Clarke and Keogh (plus any I've forgotten).
Not the largest squad, but enough cover for the odd injury. Dunn was brill on Saturday and looked like he commanded his area better than Murphy or Westwood, Murphy himself who is a brilliant shot stopper, though there's room for improvement.

So, whilst the squad is smaller, I'd say those we kept are an improvement in most areas except King's - who has been out injured the last month or so anyway.

 

[pusbccfc]

I would rather have Gael over gunnar all day long.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Did Mcindoe play for us at all last season? Did Carsley play for us after X-mas? Can't remember.

They still need to be replaced(Though hopefully not like for like)

McIndoe came on as sub a lot under Thorn. And it's worth adding Doyle to the un-replaced players as he played for us more recently than Carsley.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

When did Carsley ever do a job for us?! He could shout well but I've moonwalked faster than he could run! Gunnarson was a sulk for most of the last 2 seasons, even under Thorn he was irritatingly inconsistent. McIndoe did a shift but is getting on a bit. In terms of being thin, in the midfield is the only place we are quite short - upfront we have: McDonald, McSheffrey, Platt, Wilson, O'Donovan & Jutkiewicz, not all top class but most can do a job. In defence we have: McPake, Cranie, Hussey, Clarke and Keogh (plus any I've forgotten).
Not the largest squad, but enough cover for the odd injury. Dunn was brill on Saturday and looked like he commanded his area better than Murphy or Westwood, Murphy himself who is a brilliant shot stopper, though there's room for improvement.

So, whilst the squad is smaller, I'd say those we kept are an improvement in most areas except King's - who has been out injured the last month or so anyway.

Westwood caught every cross going. I don't think we can decide Dunn is better than him based on a 45 minute appearance!

As far as strikers who can "do a job"-McSheffrey showed against Leicester that he aint no striker anymore. The only proven player on that list who we know can do a job regularly is Lukas, and he is not a prolific goalscorer. Take Lukas out of that strike-force, and you really will be hard pressed to find a weaker one in our division.

Also completely disagree about Carsley. Him and Turner were key to our start under Boothroyd, and even SKY did a glowing piece on how he had been instrumental. Never mind his leadership qualities getting an extra 25% out of some players, he constantly intercepted balls in defence, dropping in to sweep up.

 

[Astute]

I was going on what we had last season. We did not have Turner for most of it. King will be hard to replace, but he did not play anywhere near a full season. Would have been good to keep Turner as he is good when fit, but we still have a good defence. From what we have seen so far I would prefer to have Christie than Turner. He looks slightly more dangerous going forward with his crosses and he also has a good throw in on him. We do know they tried to keep King.

I think Juke will set up many more goals than he will score if we can keep playing the way we are at the moment. Also the youngsters could keep improving with experience.

There are a fair few if's and but's, but this is the same every season. Morale will be high. We played well with Sky watching us. How many players and managers will have been watching or have watched since? How many of these will be looking forward to playing us now? We must remember that we were playing a team that had won 4 out of 5 league games before they played us. You would have thought they were the team without a win.

 

[Jack Griffin]

When did Carsley ever do a job for us?!

Bad analysis of the week.

 

[Paxman II]

Asbyjan I think you could have just said so. been a whole lot easier for ya!
:wave:

 

[Sky Blue Sheepy]

Bad analysis of the week.

You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to disagree but my lasting memory is of most players beating him with ease

 

[ccfcway]

better out than in

:wave:

 

[Astute]

Why do most players retire? is it when they realise they have past their sell by date for their division and do not want to go any lower?

Thanks Carsley. Hello Bigi :claping hands:

 

[stupot07]

I was going on what we had last season. We did not have Turner for most of it. King will be hard to replace, but he did not play anywhere near a full season. Would have been good to keep Turner as he is good when fit, but we still have a good defence. From what we have seen so far I would prefer to have Christie than Turner. He looks slightly more dangerous going forward with his crosses and he also has a good throw in on him. We do know they tried to keep King.

I think Juke will set up many more goals than he will score if we can keep playing the way we are at the moment. Also the youngsters could keep improving with experience.

There are a fair few if's and but's, but this is the same every season. Morale will be high. We played well with Sky watching us. How many players and managers will have been watching or have watched since? How many of these will be looking forward to playing us now? We must remember that we were playing a team that had won 4 out of 5 league games before they played us. You would have thought they were the team without a win.

A couple of points: -

1) how can you compare Turner to Christie? Christie is not a replacement for Turner they play in different positions. Christie is a full back not a big dominating centre back and will thus get forward and cross the ball.

2) Bigi looks extremely promising and is technically gifted but he is completely different to Gunnarsson, who i think was a big loss. Yes, he may not have hit the heights of his first season but what he did bring that none of the other players do is provide a physical pressense, powerful surging runs with the ball, and make forward runs beyond the strikers.

3) We have lost 21 goals from last season - King (13), Gunnar (4) & Turner (4). That is a lot of goals to lose, especially considering the only outfield player we have brought in is untried at this level, and expecting anything more than 10 goals from him this season is unreasonable. That's still 11 goals down on last year, and i look at the squad and struggle to see where these are going to come from.

I believe our squad is superior from last year - Westwood, Gunnar, Turner and King are big losses.

 

[Astute]

I did not say they were not big losses, but the way the team has been rearranged this is covered in different ways.

Keogh is now in the position of Turner with Christie doing dangerous runs up the wing. I thought King got 10 league goals. You can't replace him easily, but as I said he did not play all the time. Hopefully Cody will get 10 goals. Turner missed most of the season also. We have a competent defence still. I am very happy to have Bigi instead of Gunnar. He had a poor season again last season. How many would choose Gunnar over Bigi? Yes, he is untried, but he has taken it all in his stride. When players are as capable as Christie and Bigi you need to give them the chance to play. Neither has let us down so far. They have both done excellent. I would go as far as to say they have been our best two players this season. Big teams like Manure bring their youth players through at an early age. They play at a much higher level.

The goals will come as we are playing in a more attacking formation, not just get the ball forward as soon as they can. Them 18 league goals from 3 players over the season can be beat by Cody, Bigi and Christie. We will have to wait and see. Cody is a striker and the other two like to get forward. 10 for Cody and 4 each from Bigi and Christie is not a massive ask.