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CET: Joe Elliot confirms talks and that Hoffman Would also join the board. (6 Viewers)

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  • Start date Mar 25, 2013
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #106
lordsummerisle said:
No room for Coleman? Maybe Director of Football, with King as Chief Coach?

Think covered most of my bette noirs now!
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Thought you would like the RR bit
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #107
Pete in Portugal said:
I also think that IF administration of CCFC Holdings is forced upon SISU, and IF a buyer makes an offer to the Administrator, they may well decide to cut their losses and ask the buyer for a payment for their agreement to enter a CVA, thus avoiding a 15 point deduction next season. I'm sure that SISU's initial negotiating 'price' for this would be close to £45m. However, if the alternative is that they get nothing, then potentially, it seems there might be a deal to be done. It would depend on how much value a buyer would place on the club starting next season without a 15 point deduction. £1m maybe???
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Yes totally agree, however imagine negotiating with them. They would probably actually start at 60 million as they would have inflated it to that by then. With a view if trying to get the 25 million I would guess they have invested in real terms
 

Pete in Portugal

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #108
dongonzalos said:
Yes totally agree, however imagine negotiating with them. They would probably actually start at 60 million as they would have inflated it to that by then. With a view if trying to get the 25 million I would guess they have invested in real terms
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Well if I was doing it, I wouldn't even attempt a negotiation. It'd be a nightmare! I'd make them an offer of what was reasonable and give them a deadline, after which the offer would lapse.
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #109
dongonzalos said:
Very hard but with a bit of stability no sacking managers and off circus' no transfer embargo's meaning summer targets don't sign.

The new owner no doubt would want to sign a couple to make a statement. Personally I think that should only happen with the loss of others from the wage bill.

Imagine this squad with one or two others.

They have done that 90 point form this season, so why not next if they are a little stronger.
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Its actually 79.5 points - 57 points from 33 games since shaw was replaced - 1.72 points per game
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #110
covcity4life said:
PWKH why is only 50% of the ricoh up for grabs

are the council still looking to handicap any new buyer? buying 100% of the ricoh would be best for any new owner of the club
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I am torn between
a) giving the council the benefit of the doubt (!!) by saying they want to ensure anyone who buys their half will be doing it with CCFC firmly in the mix to enjoy the benefit, rather than diverting profits straight to the new owners bank account.
b) the council realising they can make money themselves out of the stadium.

Regardless of which way it blows, I am confused re. all the stuff Dear Joe's coming out with on the radio and newspapers ... how can "Preston" buy the Higgs share and then try to pick up CCFC later? I thought only CCFC can buy the Higgs share?

If this is incorrect, my apologies ... but can we guarantee if "Preston" does by the Higgs share, he will bother to pick up CCFC? The club needs serious investment before he sees any return for his money.
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #111
covcity4life said:
i was replying to soemone mentioned -15

but yeh if its anymore it becomes a fight for surivial
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That would be my main worry. Don't mind having to spend another year in this league if its a fresh start and we're challenging ... but dropping down to league 2 means less money, less fans, less appeal to decent players, more embarrasment.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #112
stupot07 said:
Its actually 79.5 points - 57 points from 33 games since shaw was replaced - 1.72 points per game
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Been quite a bit of turbulence since the as well though

I think this squad with a good manager for one whole season.
Plus the odd extra player that a new owner would probably bring in, could do it.
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #113
dongonzalos said:
Been quite a bit of turbulence since the as well though

I think this squad with a good manager for one whole season.
Plus the odd extra player that a new owner would probably bring in, could do it.
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Unfortunately I don't have the same faith in the squad as you. I feel it needs quite a bit of improvement, especially if Presley wants to play tippy tippy football with a lone striker.
 

covcity4life

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #114
stupot07 said:
unfortunately i don't have the same faith in the squad as you. I feel it needs quite a bit of improvement, especially if presley wants to play tippy tippy football with a lone striker.
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yet you have faith in mcsheffrey
 
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logjoe

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #115
Otis said:
The sad thing in all this is the suggestion of a 15 point penalty next season.

That means, next season in League One and almost certainly the following season too. [/QUOT

Next season was inevitable but why the following?
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stupot07

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #116
covcity4life said:
yet you have faith in mcsheffrey
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No, I just don't think he's been as shit as most on here do. I would replace him along with a fair few others.
 
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SkyBlueBlood

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #117
Otis said:
The sad thing in all this is the suggestion of a 15 point penalty next season.

That means, next season in League One and almost certainly the following season too.
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You might be right, but dont judge until we see what squad we have at the start of the season. Anything stronger than this years with 1 Manager all season and even reasonable home form could win this league by 15 points.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #118
lordsummerisle said:
I'm on a few people's top 10 lists on here.

Unfortunately it's a Kill List.
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I watched that on 4 last night, mainly because after Utopia everyone said it was the thing to watch for more top-form Neil Maskell. He was great in it, but the 3rd act was one hell of a change of pace! I've just about got my head around what happened, but it took a few hours of reading blogs, interviews and forums. If only CCFC's problems were that simple...
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #119
Nonleagueherewecome said:
I watched that on 4 last night, mainly because after Utopia everyone said it was the thing to watch for more top-form Neil Maskell. He was great in it, but the 3rd act was one hell of a change of pace! I've just about got my head around what happened, but it took a few hours of reading blogs, interviews and forums. If only CCFC's problems were that simple...
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Saw it when it came out, great film, bit of a Wicker Man vibe to it which probably attracted me!

Did you notice his mate in it was the copper he killed in the first episode of Utopia, also was the "ringmaster" in the best Black Mirror this series.

Can hardly believe that he and Tyres from Spaced are the same man!
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #120
SkyBlueBlood said:
You might be right, but dont judge until we see what squad we have at the start of the season. Anything stronger than this years with 1 Manager all season and even reasonable home form could win this league by 15 points.
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Win the leaguer by 15 points?????
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #121
lordsummerisle said:
Saw it when it came out, great film, bit of a Wicker Man vibe to it which probably attracted me!

Did you notice his mate in it was the copper he killed in the first episode of Utopia, also was the "ringmaster" in the best Black Mirror this series.

Can hardly believe that he and Tyres from Spaced are the same man!
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Heck yeah, the other reason I watched it was for "Tyres"! Loved the semi-improvised nature of a lot of the scenes, especially first two thirds-they helped to made it a lot more convincing.

Deffo a Wicker Man vibe. The director said that he wasn't directly influenced by it, but influenced by the same things that informed The Wicker Man; classic British pagan stuff.

Best clue is when Gal's missus (the H.R. witch) talks about the Irish sectarian problem, saying "well, they're all the same, aren't they? All Christians."
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #122
stupot07 said:
Win the leaguer by 15 points?????
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La Leaguer?
 

CCFC_GT

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #123
PWKH said:
This is what I wrote a couple of days ago:

the reason that the development of the surrounding area is so important for CCFC is that it is vital, in my opinion, for CCFC to be part or wholly owners of the Ricoh. The income from the Ricoh at the present time is not enough to subsidise the ridiculous wages footballers seem to think they deserve. The whole thing needs to be grown. If it were owned by CCFC the FFP question would be solved and if the development was done it might become sustainable.

Is it really realistic to expect to find an Abramovic or a Qatari Sheikh who is prepared to fork out year after year to take over CCFC? Surely it is much better if we have an investor who will create more wealth in Coventry and build a sustainable football club?
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Thanks for your honesty, integrity and openness in sharing information with this forum as far as you are able, and for correcting misinformation from other quarters.

I agree with the points you make here. However on the question of whether CCFC need to be part or wholly owners of the Ricoh, I believe that for the club to get back to and be able to compete in the Premier League it would surely need to be sustained by profits derived for the owners by full ownership of the Ricoh and development of the surrounding area. This of course was the original vision for the Ricoh development.
 

Otis

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #124
logjoe said:
Otis said:
The sad thing in all this is the suggestion of a 15 point penalty next season.

That means, next season in League One and almost certainly the following season too. [/QUOT

Next season was inevitable but why the following?
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Because the 15 point penalty will make it much more likely we won't go up next season. Therefore, the season after that there is very much the likelihood we could still be in League One.
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covcity4life

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #125
Otis said:
logjoe said:
Because the 15 point penalty will make it much more likely we won't go up next season. Therefore, the season after that there is very much the likelihood we could still be in League One.
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its debatable as i pointed out we gave up 15pts on the trot this season too and still in with a chance
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Otis

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #126
covcity4life said:
Otis said:
its debatable as i pointed out we gave up 15pts on the trot this season too and still in with a chance
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I know I accept that. Just having all the points off in one go could be a psychological disadvantage. It is still doable of course, but a very tough ask.



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covcity4life

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #127
Otis said:
covcity4life said:
I know I accept that. Just having all the points off in one go could be a psychological disadvantage. It is still doable of course, but a very tough ask.



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why couldnt you have said that earlier...would have saved 2-3 pages of angry posts:guitar2::guitar2::guitar2:
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Otis

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #128
Maybe I didn't explain myself properly then.

Not saying it is impossible, cos it isn't. If we were to get investment in players then we could of course make up the 15 points.

Was only trying to suggest that a psychological factor could come into play.

To start on -15 could have an effect. Thing is, if we did start on -15 then even if we won our first 5 games of the season we would almost certainly still be bottom of the table for sure, as winning the first 5 would only mean having made it to zero points.

It's a marathon not a sprint of course and there is the whole season, but if the points deduction played on the players' minds it could have a negative effect.

I just wish any points would come off now, this season, so we can maybe start afresh next year with new owners, new investment and new hope!
 

covcity4life

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #129
yeh now playoffs seem over id take the pts deduction if it means a new more promising future
 

Otis

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  • Mar 25, 2013
  • #130
Well let's face it, it can't get much worse!!
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 26, 2013
  • #131
dongonzalos said:
Yes totally agree, however imagine negotiating with them. They would probably actually start at 60 million as they would have inflated it to that by then. With a view if trying to get the 25 million I would guess they have invested in real terms
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Have they got up to the fake inflated 60 million figure yet?
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 26, 2013
  • #132
dongonzalos said:
Have they got up to the fake inflated 60 million figure yet?
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Doesn't the administrator have to make available a report detailing who is owed what? Could make interesting reading to see how they make up the £60m. Assume this is what ACL mean when they say they will be watching how the administrator operates. Anything dodgy and they'll be straight back in the court contesting it. Downside of that would be things could drag on for a long time.
 

deanocity3

New Member
  • Mar 26, 2013
  • #133
chiefdave said:
Doesn't the administrator have to make available a report detailing who is owed what? Could make interesting reading to see how they make up the £60m. Assume this is what ACL mean when they say they will be watching how the administrator operates. Anything dodgy and they'll be straight back in the court contesting it. Downside of that would be things could drag on for a long time.
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Thats why it's called operation premiership we might be back there by the time it's finished,with Mcsheffrey's son as manager
 
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