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CCFC- what do we want on Match-days? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jun 12, 2015
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WestEndAgro

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #106
I remember a Jaguar exhibition taking place on match day a few seasons ago in the Jag Halls, it was certainly very busy and unrelated to football, wether it made any difference to the overall attendance or indeed it was intended to does anyone know ?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #107
Samo said:
All I am saying is that it is in all our interests if the match day experience is improved. That being the case I think the focus should be on families and children as those of us that are only interested in the 90 minutes, myself included, will go (or not) regardless of other stuff that's going on. Children often dictate family behavior, so make it sparkly, colorful and fun and they will want to go. They are our future and the club should try everything possible to get them there. I cannot for the life of me, see why anyone would be resistant to that.
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I'm not. I am agreeing but saying it should all be CCFC related to make the kids love CCFC the football club and grow up as fans. Rather than not bothering because the fun fairs have stopped.

The club do do things at the minute too, as I mentioned earlier the Christmas Party thread I made was quiet and the JSB people do work hard.

The first thing any parent who wants their kid to be into CCFC should do is sign them up to the JSB's.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #108
Samo said:
As I asked earlier:
You don't think a child might be keener to attend if he/she was going to meet players, win a prize, get a free flag, get their face painted, play a game, etc? Yes or no?

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I'm sure player meets happen as for the rest no. They'd be far more interested in playing on their phone.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #109
I'm all for creating a good atmosphere, but the talks of magicians, jugglers and fair ground rides is silly. Maybe we could have Tim Fisher as the circus ringleader as well?

Handing out a few flags and sky blue balloons, getting current/former players involved, showing classic matches on the scoreboard, kids 5 a side games at half time are all fine but some of the suggestions on here are crossing the line of silly.

Another idea, how about a football free style/skills competition that could run at half time?
 

Samo

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #110
Nick said:
I'm not. I am agreeing but saying it should all be CCFC related to make the kids love CCFC the football club and grow up as fans. Rather than not bothering because the fun fairs have stopped.

The club do do things at the minute too, as I mentioned earlier the Christmas Party thread I made was quiet and the JSB people do work hard.

The first thing any parent who wants their kid to be into CCFC should do is sign them up to the JSB's.
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Fun Fairs? I was talking about small footy related side stalls, not the bloody Waltzers! But I don't agree that everything has to be CCFC related, just fun.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #111
CCFC said:
I'm all for creating a good atmosphere, but the talks of magicians, jugglers and fair ground rides is silly. Maybe we could have Tim Fisher as the circus ringleader as well?

Handing out a few flags and sky blue balloons, getting current/former players involved, showing classic matches on the scoreboard, kids 5 a side games at half time are all fine but some of the suggestions on here are crossing the line of silly.

Another idea, how about a football free style/skills competition that could run at half time?
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Get the youth teamers on to do a skill school type thing, fans get to know the kid players coming through too
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #112
Grendel said:
I'm sure player meets happen as for the rest no. They'd be far more interested in playing on their phone.
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As I have suspected for some time, you were clearly never a child.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #113
Nick said:
Get the youth teamers on to do a skill school type thing, fans get to know the kid players coming through too
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Yea, I was thinking possibly something like that.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #114
All I want is to be able to turn up and find there are enough turnstiles open that I don't have to queue for ages if a few more people than usual have come to a game.

Same when I'm in the ground, if I want a pie or a beer it should be quick service although that's more Compass / ACL than the club. I've never understood why they don't have beer, teas etc ready and waiting at half time, surely they know roughly how many they will need, can't change that much week to week, and can have some staff prepping stuff. Be much better than being served by someone who can't work the till properly who then has to go off and make a cup of tea, acting like its something they've never done before in their life.

They could make better use of video before the game and at half time. Arsenal did a good job of that, although I can imagine their budget is a lot bigger. Saying that I'm sure if you're an Arsenal fan seeing similar things every game it still gets boring.

Stadium wide wifi would be nice for checking other scores, the forum etc at half time. Again though that's probably more a job for ACL.

Things for the kids are great but I get the impression a lot of that is already done. Maybe it needs advertising more if people don't know its happening.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #115
Samo said:
As I have suspected for some time, you were clearly never a child.
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And you are not a child from the modern era. For most now all they want to do is play some tedious game on the I phone.

The type of entertainment you are talking about is for under fives.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #116
Samo said:
Have you ever taken your family to visit Warwick Castle? I assume you warned them that they should on no account have any fun around the town as this is not castle related.
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I agree with you Samo - although I do live in Warwick, and you have probably not picked a great example. If you can find anywhere to have fun around the town, I'd love to know where it is = and if you do succeed, my better half will ban me from going!
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #117
Grendel said:
And you are not a child from the modern era. For most now all they want to do is play some tedious game on the I phone.

The type of entertainment you are talking about is for under fives.
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Get 'em into the habit young I say!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #118
Samo said:
Get 'em into the habit young I say!
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I can tell you exactly what would happen if they did these things. People would moan that they queued to get the face painting done and ran out of time and the child's day was ruined.

The flags had gone that's the only reason we came.

The player didn't talk to my child he cried all the way home.

More trouble than it's worth.
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #119
Grendel said:
I can tell you exactly what would happen if they did these things. People would moan that they queued to get the face painting done and ran out of time and the child's day was ruined.

The flags had gone that's the only reason we came.

The player didn't talk to my child he cried all the way home.

More trouble than it's worth.
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Let's not bother trying anything then. It'll just be shit and people will moan.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #120
I thought gimmicks and trying to win the fans of the future was just an evil franchise tactic?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #121
rondog1973 said:
Congratulations for posting something I'm in full agreement with!
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You're welcome, who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #122


 

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #123
Macca said:
I thought gimmicks and trying to win the fans of the future was just an evil franchise tactic?
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It's pretty ridiculous to be fair. I'd much prefer whatever little money the club has directed towards the team rather than some form of crass entertainment.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #124
Grendel said:
I see. So if we perhaps arranged to rent the jaguar hall when we are playing and put a display of vintage model railway displays in one week?

Do you think they will be back the following week?

What percentage are we actually going to do this for? If it's not related to football its trying to bribe loyalty not induce and it's not going to work.

How many other clubs do it? Hardly any I would guess.
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Sorry, but a total overreaction and not what I have said at all.

How on earth is it bribery?

If my daughter went say maybe 8 or 9 times then she might well become a diehard supporter.

No-one has suggested we will have to bribe our kids every week to go to games. That is totally ridiculous.

Sorry. but this is City fans all over. Anything new is mooted or suggested and it is immediately dismissed.
We need to try anything and everything.

Grendel, you are an intelligent fella. Isn't the aim to get more bums on seats and try to get the next generation of kids to turn into the Sky Blue faithful?

Vintage railway displays? Seriously? Very poorly put across point. It is the kids that need our main concentration. We know many adults will come and see a team playing winning football. Kids come to games and if they see a poor product on the pitch and that is their day, they are less likely to want to come back.

If we lose but there is other stuff there to cheer them up, they will be more likely to return. It's not rocket science.

It's ridiculous that people are talking about bribery. Anyone who has kids know how things work and we all know you can force kids to do something, but if there is something they are not so keen on doing, but something else is thrown into the mix, they are more likely to go.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #125
Sick Boy said:
It's pretty ridiculous to be fair. I'd much prefer whatever little money the club has directed towards the team rather than some form of crass entertainment.
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It is. If people want that sort of tack migrate to Car Park C. What the hell is that monstrosity on there now?
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #126
Grendel said:
It is. If people want that sort of tack migrate to Car Park C. What the hell is that monstrosity on there now?
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Aw c'mon, you know you would!
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #127
Nick said:
Yes, because visiting a castle is the same as watching a football team every couple of weeks isn't it and get somebody to support the club.

I went to the Castle because my daughter was excited to learn about the castle and all the things castle / history related. I didn't take her to the castle because they had big screen TV's with PS4's, everything on at the Castle was related to the Castle and the history behind it while being entertaining too. It was all themed.

Still though, I was a bit pissed off they didn't lay on some drifting in the car park for those not interested in the history or the castle it's self to get them up there.
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You see, you have realise everyone is different, Nick.

The only way I could get my daughter to Warwick Castle was if she knew there was a playground there.

We like stately homes and English Heritage sites and stuff like that, but my daughter shows very little interest. If there is a playground or play area though and the promise of an ice cream and a game of frizbee, she'll be there like a shot.
 

Otis

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #128
Otis said:
You see, you have realise everyone is different, Nick.

The only way I could get my daughter to Warwick Castle was if she knew there was a playground there.

We like stately homes and English Heritage sites and stuff like that, but my daughter shows very little interest. If there is a playground or play area though and the promise of an ice cream and a game of frizbee, she'll be there like a shot.
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Would you honestly call that bribery?

It's a package and for the kids I don't see why a day at the football game can't be a package. Once they are hooked they will be hooked, but at the end of the day none us want to see a losing football team and that hits kids all the harder.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #129
clearly not been to a wasps game, but what did they do in the Jag Hall, was that deemed a success from a "fans" point of view ?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #130
ccfcway said:
clearly not been to a wasps game, but what did they do in the Jag Hall, was that deemed a success from a "fans" point of view ?
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Wasps said:
while a ‘Fan Zone’ in the stadium’s Jaguar Exhibition Hall will hold numerous bars and food outlets
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they sell food and drink which they make money on. we'd have to hire the hall and wouldn't get the money from food and drink.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #131
chiefdave said:
they sell food and drink which they make money on. we'd have to hire the hall and wouldn't get the money from food and drink.
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so from a fans point of view it was a success ?
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #132
chiefdave said:
they sell food and drink which they make money on. we'd have to hire the hall and wouldn't get the money from food and drink.
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on the finances, if something like this hall drew fans in and created revenue for whoever, lets says ACl / Wasps, instead of fans drinking in town etc, why would they charge rent ?. I assume they dont currently charge rent for the bars that are open in the stadium on match day ?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #133
ccfcway said:
on the finances, if something like this hall drew fans in and created revenue for whoever, lets says ACl / Wasps, instead of fans drinking in town etc, why would they charge rent ?. I assume they dont currently charge rent for the bars that are open in the stadium on match day ?
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Why does any pub or club charge for function rooms then?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #134
Otis said:
You see, you have realise everyone is different, Nick.

The only way I could get my daughter to Warwick Castle was if she knew there was a playground there.

We like stately homes and English Heritage sites and stuff like that, but my daughter shows very little interest. If there is a playground or play area though and the promise of an ice cream and a game of frizbee, she'll be there like a shot.
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Everybody is different, some don't like football and some do. What's the point in trying to attract people who don't actually like football by offering them non football stuff at a football match?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #135
ccfcway said:
so from a fans point of view it was a success ?
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No idea, haven't been to a Wasps game. There is one thing worth pointing out though. Wasps were providing season ticket holders with free transport last season, so they had coach loads of people at the ground before the game giving them a captive audience. How many of our fans would get out of the pub early to go and drink in the Jag Hall?

ccfcway said:
on the finances, if something like this hall drew fans in and created revenue for whoever, lets says ACl / Wasps, instead of fans drinking in town etc, why would they charge rent ?. I assume they dont currently charge rent for the bars that are open in the stadium on match day ?
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Same reason any venue charges you rent.

The operating costs will be part of the rent and / or matchday costs. One of the reasons stands are being closed this season is that the club are being charged per stand. May well be that part of that is covering the cost of operating F&B.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #136
Grendel said:
Why does any pub or club charge for function rooms then?
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many dont as long as they have numbers who buy food or drink.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #137
ccfcway said:
many dont as long as they have numbers who buy food or drink.
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Yes they do.

Do you think the NEC charge bands to play there?

I assume you think ACl should not charge concert fees at the Ricoh or any exhibitors at the hall either?

Actually we should play at the Ricoh for free - the bars open!

Lol.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #138
In fairness the op asked what we wanted and a few of us said football only. Unless the thread was already assuming we must have something else and what should that be?
In which case I wouldn't have posted
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #139
Grendel said:
Yes they do.

Do you think the NEC charge bands to play there?

I assume you think ACl should not charge concert fees at the Ricoh or any exhibitors at the hall either?

Actually we should play at the Ricoh for free - the bars open!

Lol.
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Not comparable at all.

Concerts are seperate events, requiring added costs that opening the jag hall on ccfc match days wouldn't need, but you know that.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #140
Nick said:
Everybody is different, some don't like football and some do. What's the point in trying to attract people who don't actually like football by offering them non football stuff at a football match?
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Nick, you're still not getting it.

You telling me that a child who doesn't care for football much will never care for football ever?

Seriously?

My brother didn't like football at all until he was about 12 and then he became a confirmed City fan!

So you're saying with my daughter I should just totally give up with her?

I'm not talking about people who HATE football. You seem to have it in your mind you are either a football lover or a football hater.

We can all grow to love things we didn't think we would.

No-one is talking about 'dragging' kids up or 'bribing' them to come to games.

Sorry, but it's all getting a bit ridiculous now.
 
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