CCFC Statement (4 Viewers)

NorthernWisdom

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The same as it's not the club's right to demand the stadium for below a market rate (however that can be worked out), nor is it the right of any council to put conditions on a football club owning its football ground, that see it branch out into property development.
 

shmmeee

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We aren't in a joint venture with the council, Higgs are not us. We are tenants. Nothing stopping CCC selling off the land to regeneration companies if they are desperate for the area to be regenerated.

And ccc haven't been propping up the football club, they have been its landlord and have got an asset that cost circa £115m for nothing.

I'm not talking about where we are, I'm talking about how we got there. The original deal was always between CCFC and CCC, that's what ACL was before the club sold their shares to Higgs. Without that deal we simply wouldn't have been able to get planning permission, or a stadium complex of that size.

We will need similar help if we're going to have similar income streams in a new stadium, similar sweeteners for planning permission.

We are viable on the 50% of ACL we had at the start surely, if not then the new stadium would have to make at least as much in football related income and half as much non-football as the Ricoh. Can you seriously imagine a 12k stadium in Warwickshire to be able to pull in the same conferences and entertainment acts as the Ricoh? It won't even be in the same ballpark.

The most sensible thing for all is for Sisu to bite the bullet, pay the £10m or so for the Higgs shares and everyone move on with their life. The alternative is that we saddle the club with either £30m in debt or Sisu as a landlord (or both) and end up at a stadium less equipped to support the club.
 

Grendel

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I'm not talking about where we are, I'm talking about how we got there. The original deal was always between CCFC and CCC, that's what ACL was before the club sold their shares to Higgs. Without that deal we simply wouldn't have been able to get planning permission, or a stadium complex of that size.

We will need similar help if we're going to have similar income streams in a new stadium, similar sweeteners for planning permission.

We are viable on the 50% of ACL we had at the start surely, if not then the new stadium would have to make at least as much in football related income and half as much non-football as the Ricoh. Can you seriously imagine a 12k stadium in Warwickshire to be able to pull in the same conferences and entertainment acts as the Ricoh? It won't even be in the same ballpark.

The most sensible thing for all is for Sisu to bite the bullet, pay the £10m or so for the Higgs shares and everyone move on with their life. The alternative is that we saddle the club with either £30m in debt or Sisu as a landlord (or both) and end up at a stadium less equipped to support the club.

You said that the club has an agreement with the council to regenerate the land. Now you admit yourself that up - ACL have the obligation if your logic is correct - why are they renaging on it. If they don't do it why should the club ever do it even if it owns ACL?
 

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