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CCFC puts players and staff on Furlough (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Apr 3, 2020
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #106
Paxman II said:
My point is 2500 per month set against a players average salary of 8000 per month leaves the club making up a lot of gap?
If the club makes up the other 5,500 then plaudits to them. But I question if this is so?
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Tynan Scope has confirmed it is:
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #107
Houchens Head said:
What is "furlough"? Another bloody Yank word we seem to have adopted all of a sudden. Come on, let's face it. Who actually used the word before all this shit happened? When I was working it was either "paid leave" or "unpaid leave". Can we fuck off with the yank terms!?
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Very much an English word, not American.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #108
mark82 said:
Very much an English word, not American.
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Okay Mr Pedantic. But you obviously just skipped through my post without understanding it. I was pointing out that it is a word very rarely used in the UK, but now the Yanks are using it a lot recently, it seems the sheeple of the UK has to follow suit!
 
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steve cooper

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #109
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
It’s per month not week
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Yes, sorry. Per month
 

Paxman II

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #110
What I question is the rules of the scheme which allows you to claim the government scheme up to 2500/month while voluntarily adding a further 20% to complete the 'normal' full wage, which would cover mostordinary people.
But the question is are you allowed to claim the government schme of 2500/month if you are simply able to add a huge amount to it to cover players typically muchhigher salary that goes way beyond the 20%?
This would seem contrary to what the scheme is designed for and foul play by a football club.
I appreciate the tweet but question the validity of it.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #111
Paxman II said:
What I question is the rules of the scheme which allows you to claim the government scheme up to 2500/month while voluntarily adding a further 20% to complete the 'normal' full wage, which would cover mostordinary people.
But the question is are you allowed to claim the government schme of 2500/month if you are simply able to add a huge amount to it to cover players typically muchhigher salary that goes way beyond the 20%?
This would seem contrary to what the scheme is designed for and foul play by a football club.
I appreciate the tweet but question the validity of it.
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Yes you are it’s not a 20% top up you can pay a full salary of much higher
 
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Paxman II

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #112
Grendel said:
Yes you are it’s not a 20% top up you can pay a full salary of much higher
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Late to the party there Grendel....not like you
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #113
Houchens Head said:
Okay Mr Pedantic. But you obviously just skipped through my post without understanding it. I was pointing out that it is a word very rarely used in the UK, but now the Yanks are using it a lot recently, it seems the sheeple of the UK has to follow suit!
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Agree it's not used much here but it's origination in this country was around the 16th century. If we want to be pedantic it's actually derived from a Dutch word, verlof, so would have originally been pronounced in a similar way.

Anyway, the reason it's being used in this instance is to differentiate from traditional layoff where you can only claim a maximum of £145 in a 3 month period (and apply for redundancy after 4 weeks).
 
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skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #114
mark82 said:
Agree it's not used much here but it's origination in this country was around the 16th century. If we want to be pedantic it's actually derived from a Dutch word, verlof, so would have originally been pronounced in a similar way.

Anyway, the reason it's being used in this instance is to differentiate from traditional layoff where you can only claim a maximum of £145 in a 3 month period (and apply for redundancy after 4 weeks).
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Thank you Susie Dent
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2020
  • #115
Just a thought on this-with the already limited income streams from this season due to playing at St Andrews and the now Furloughed staff, the real possibility will be completing the season behind closed doors.
If this is the case, isn’t that going to hit the club where it hurts most as the players and whichever staff are required to complete the fixtures have then returned to work, which in turn means no Furlough and no income stream through the gates etc?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2020
  • #116
Adge said:
Just a thought on this-with the already limited income streams from this season due to playing at St Andrews and the now Furloughed staff, the real possibility will be completing the season behind closed doors.
If this is the case, isn’t that going to hit the club where it hurts most as the players and whichever staff are required to complete the fixtures have then returned to work, which in turn means no Furlough and no income stream through the gates etc?
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I don’t really see what being at St Andrews has to do with it and every club will be impacted the same
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #117
Grendel said:
I don’t really see what being at St Andrews has to do with it and every club will be impacted the same
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Well we haven’t got any stadium costs Grendel although Birmingham fans were saying to me the maintenance wasn’t taking place as it should be with their new owners. You’d think we may get some reduction for the season if we don’t play all the games too. But it will only reduce the money that Sisu need to put in to cover losses
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #118
promotion will offset the loss in income, but will reduce our ability to improve the squad next season
Most teams however will have a loss of income with no offset
If we are not allowed promotion, then it could become a very big problem
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #119
Sky Blue Pete said:
Well we haven’t got any stadium costs Grendel although Birmingham fans were saying to me the maintenance wasn’t taking place as it should be with their new owners. You’d think we may get some reduction for the season if we don’t play all the games too. But it will only reduce the money that Sisu need to put in to cover losses
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Christ, the pitch was being maintained straight after full time.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #120
Nick said:
Christ, the pitch was being maintained straight after full time.
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It was to do with infrastructure in the stands etc. Didn’t get the full detail
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #121
If we end up playing behind closed doors, forget the stadium, and play at Ryton!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #122
Deleted member 5849 said:
If we end up playing behind closed doors, forget the stadium, and play at Ryton!
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We may well do but I assume the rules regarding stadium capacity/facilities etc would still need to be met, so we'd still have to have a deal agreed with someone that we could play in.

Depends on if the stadium deal is based on a monthly fee or fixture based. Dunno if we'd have insurance to cover it.
 
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