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Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #526
shmmeee said:
BTW the transfer ban was only for his first summer. This is what he bought before he got sacked:

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His permanent signings for all his clubs have been a nigh on disaster.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #527
Ccfcisparks said:
His permanent signings for all his clubs have been a nigh on disaster.
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My worry is we haven’t got a massive transfer kitty and by all accounts he wants his own players in.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #528
shmmeee said:
He’s the fourth best candidate on the rumoured shortlist of four even if I don’t know the name of one of them.
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Nonsense. Who on the shortlist specifically would you prefer?
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #529
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Nonsense. Who on the shortlist specifically would you prefer?
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The shortlist for me on a general level is: reasonably promising Champ manager (Eustace - probably the weakest for his category but not much out there), up and coming lower league manager (Bloomfield), unknown foreign manager, and big name friend of the family who has failed repeatedly before (Lampard).

I’d go:
Unknown
Lower league
Champ
Name
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #530
shmmeee said:
My eldest didn’t see us lose for two years, all it took was three or four shite draws and losses and the winter time and she lost interest.
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It took Mrs BSB 5 years to see us win!
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #531
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It took Mrs BSB 5 years to see us win!
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Maybe that’s the way. Like teaching, don’t smile until Christmas, set tough expectations. Always been my issue
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #532
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It took Mrs BSB 5 years to see us win!
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Only because you lost the key to the cellar padlock
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #533
shmmeee said:
The shortlist for me on a general level is: reasonably promising Champ manager (Eustace - probably the weakest for his category but not much out there), up and coming lower league manager (Bloomfield), unknown foreign manager, and big name friend of the family who has failed repeatedly before (Lampard).

I’d go:
Unknown
Lower league
Champ
Name
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Remind me, what’s Eustace and Bloomfield’s highest league position over a full season?

Since we’ve beaten Blackburn in October, their record is 2-1-5. That’s worse than our record and come the end of the season, it wouldn’t shock me to see Blackburn fighting for survival.

If you genuinely think Eustace and Bloomfield are better candidates than Lampard, reduce your doses of copium.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #534
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Remind me, what’s Eustace and Bloomfield’s highest league position over a full season?

Since we’ve beaten Blackburn in October, their record is 2-1-5. That’s worse than our record and come the end of the season, it wouldn’t shock me to see Blackburn fighting for survival.

If you genuinely think Eustace and Bloomfield are better candidates than Lampard, reduce your doses of copium.
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You'd probably be saying the same about McKenna a couple of years ago.
Broomfield could be a far better candidate, he could be a bag of shit, we'll never know
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #535
Lads, Shmmeee is an absolute walloper. Why are you arguing with some so thick they didn't realise they hadn't page for their season ticket?

Let him dribble into dead space.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #536
clint van damme said:
You'd probably be saying the same about McKenna a couple of years ago.
Broomfield could be a far better candidate, he could be a bag of shit, we'll never know
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McKenna cut his teeth in L1 and took some time to get going with a bumper budget for the league. Bloomfield strikes me as an even bigger gamble than Lampard.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #537
Brighton Sky Blue said:
McKenna cut his teeth in L1 and took some time to get going with a bumper budget for the league. Bloomfield strikes me as an even bigger gamble than Lampard.
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They're all gambles.
I just find the attempts to polish the turd that is Lampards managerial career amusing.

Like I say, all I'm interested in is what he does here, hopefully this is where he really shines.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #538
David O'Day said:
Lads, Shmmeee is an absolute walloper. Why are you arguing with some so thick they didn't realise they hadn't page for their season ticket?

Let him dribble into dead space.
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What a surprise throwing insults around again.

if the same happens to you you start crying to mods
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #539
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Lampard done deal
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I'll wait for the club to announce it before believing it, I am pretty sure this is the same source that sold Gyokeres had been sold to half of the Premier League before he ended up at Sporting.
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #540
shmmeee said:
BTW the transfer ban was only for his first summer. This is what he bought before he got sacked:

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In fairness Havertz was one of the hottest prospects in the world at the time, Werner was scoring goals for fun at his club and for his country, Chillwell at the time was one of the best left backs in the premier league, and Silva is one of the greatest centre halves ever, who was still class even in his late 30s
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #541
clint van damme said:
You'd probably be saying the same about McKenna a couple of years ago.
Broomfield could be a far better candidate, he could be a bag of shit, we'll never know
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McKenna at least came from an elite club and was highly regarded.

As for Bloomfield, he reminds more of Ainsworth than McKenna. He’s a club legend, doing well on a modest budget at a modest club. I have a good friend who does Wycombe home and away so whilst I’m glad to see them doing well, I’m just deeply sceptical of Bloomfield’s ability to step up to the top end of the Championship.

Lampard has managed in the Prem and UCL so commands a level of respect for his work as both a player and manager. He’s coached better players than we have and at a higher level. The only managers I’d prefer than Lampard that are out of work are Potter and Moyes - two unrealistic options.

I’ll stress again that I’m still ‘meh’ about Lampard because I’d have kept Robins. When I rationalise things, he’s the best available manager out there (realistically) so I’ll give him my backing. Had we waited 1-2 months there may have been better coaches available.
 
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skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #542
shmmeee said:
The shortlist for me on a general level is: reasonably promising Champ manager (Eustace - probably the weakest for his category but not much out there), up and coming lower league manager (Bloomfield), unknown foreign manager, and big name friend of the family who has failed repeatedly before (Lampard).

I’d go:
Unknown
Lower league
Champ
Name
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Yeah, hiring some random foreigner to manage in one of the most grueling leagues with it's notoriously tough winter schedule coming up and an already furious fanbase on his back, that is a recipe for guaranteed success right there!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #543
clint van damme said:
They're all gambles.
I just find the attempts to polish the turd that is Lampards managerial career amusing.

Like I say, all I'm interested in is what he does here, hopefully this is where he really shines.
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It’s still a ‘jury’s out’ rather than ‘steaming turd’ in my view. If he fucks it here he’ll make like Gary Neville and never manage again.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #544
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s still a ‘jury’s out’ rather than ‘steaming turd’ in my view. If he fucks it here he’ll make like Gary Neville and never manage again.
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There's one thing I really like about Lampard, I think some big name players go into management just because.

I get the impression he really wants to work hard and make a success of it. Of course that doesn't mean he will, but I like his attitude, or at least, what I perceive to be his attitude.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #545
procdoc said:
In fairness Havertz was one of the hottest prospects in the world at the time, Werner was scoring goals for fun at his club and for his country, Chillwell at the time was one of the best left backs in the premier league, and Silva is one of the greatest centre halves ever, who was still class even in his late 30s
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Agreed. It’s also academic because Lampard wouldn’t have had a lot of control over transfers in the first place. The only big flop on that list is Werner. They at least made money on Havertz who is now a key player at Arsenal now and Chilwell was a top Prem LB before he was plagued by injuries.

Jody Morris’ TalkSport interview was illuminating because he always felt that he and Lampard were almost ‘used’ by Chelsea as a stop gap. Tuchel, or someone of that calibre, probably wouldn’t have taken the job under a 12 month embargo.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #546
clint van damme said:
There's one thing I really like about Lampard, I think some big name players go into management just because.

I get the impression he really wants to work hard and make a success of it. Of course that doesn't mean he will, but I like his attitude, or at least, what I perceive to be his attitude.
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So does Rooney to be fair, he just hasn’t got a clue of how to work with players who aren’t world class. We’ll soon tell if Lampard is the same.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #547
clint van damme said:
They're all gambles.
I just find the attempts to polish the turd that is Lampards managerial career amusing.

Like I say, all I'm interested in is what he does here, hopefully this is where he really shines.
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I think Lampard was out of his depth at Chelsea and frankly, even world class managers have struggled there.

He did what was expected at Everton and Dyche doing a better job isn’t an indictment on him. Dyche is more experienced as a manager, especially teams at the bottom end of the table.

Listening to him on the ‘Diary of a CEO’ podcast, he shouldn’t have went back to Chelsea for that second spell. That’s what’s really tarnished career. He met objectives at Derby, Chelsea and Everton.
 
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Calista

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #548
clint van damme said:
There's one thing I really like about Lampard, I think some big name players go into management just because.

I get the impression he really wants to work hard and make a success of it. Of course that doesn't mean he will, but I like his attitude, or at least, what I perceive to be his attitude.
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This is it. He keeps coming back for more when I imagine he doesn't really need to financially.

Maybe it's like riding a bike, and after a few spills he'll learn how to balance and there'll be no stopping him
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #549
procdoc said:
That looks really legit
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Well it’s from a good source, the only clown is you
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #550
procdoc said:
In fairness Havertz was one of the hottest prospects in the world at the time, Werner was scoring goals for fun at his club and for his country, Chillwell at the time was one of the best left backs in the premier league, and Silva is one of the greatest centre halves ever, who was still class even in his late 30s
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And Havertz wasn't a bad signing in any event and is still playing at a top club. I'll take Chilwell on loan if they fancy it
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #551
skybluecam said:
Yeah, hiring some random foreigner to manage in one of the most grueling leagues with it's notoriously tough winter schedule coming up and an already furious fanbase on his back, that is a recipe for guaranteed success right there!
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If you’re hiring based on the next few games you’re hiring the wrong person anyway.

Any foreign manager will likely be there because their record has highlighted them, the closer to this league you go the more it’s who you know what you know. I’d rather a manager, any manager, who is hired because of his record not his surname. Ideally in that list I’d replace Eustace with a Mowbray or similar who has been around the block a bit more. That’s why he’s third in the list of four. But he’s in a job in the Championship and I’ve always liked him as a person which puts him above Lampard.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #552
shmmeee said:
If you’re hiring based on the next few games you’re hiring the wrong person anyway.

Any foreign manager will likely be there because their record has highlighted them, the closer to this league you go the more it’s who you know what you know. I’d rather a manager, any manager, who is hired because of his record not his surname. Ideally in that list I’d replace Eustace with a Mowbray or similar who has been around the block a bit more. That’s why he’s third in the list of four. But he’s in a job in the Championship and I’ve always liked him as a person which puts him above Lampard.
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Their start will be key though. I really don’t see an any manager surviving a poor first month or two given the circumstances. That’s why I’m ok with Lampard because he has a few things going for him that might help him start well.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #553
skybluecam said:
Their start will be key though. I really don’t see an any manager surviving a poor first month or two
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What?
 

skybluecam

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #554
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What?
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If the new manager starts poorly I suspect fans will turn on them/the team and they’ll probably be gone at the end of the season.
 
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procdoc

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #555
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Well it’s from a good source, the only clown is you
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Think your recent posts make you look like a clown more to be perfectly honest pal
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #556
skybluecam said:
If the new manager starts poorly I suspect fans will turn on them/the team and they’ll probably be gone at the end of the season.
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Read like they’d be sacked in January
 
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baldy

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #557
shmmeee said:
If you’re hiring based on the next few games you’re hiring the wrong person anyway.

Any foreign manager will likely be there because their record has highlighted them, the closer to this league you go the more it’s who you know what you know. I’d rather a manager, any manager, who is hired because of his record not his surname. Ideally in that list I’d replace Eustace with a Mowbray or similar who has been around the block a bit more. That’s why he’s third in the list of four. But he’s in a job in the Championship and I’ve always liked him as a person which puts him above Lampard.
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There's no way I'd have Mowbray back tbh (plus he won't be going to anyone for a while I'd imagine)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #558
Still not too late for King to go to Hornyland
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #559
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Still not too late for King to go to Hornyland
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Instructions unclear, he’s gone on holiday to Thailand for a week instead.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #560
baldy said:
There's no way I'd have Mowbray back tbh (plus he won't be going to anyone for a while I'd imagine)
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Was the first kind of been around the block Championship manager that came to mind. But there’s not many about, hence why Eustace is who we could find I suspect.
 
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