@GIMOC you didn't rate Robins and don't want Lampard. You dislike Austin, Dr Clare and King. You think we wasted £40m most of our players are shit and you take a sleight at Sheaf, yet you claim to be a City fan.
Fekkin Leicester Fox shows less disregard for our club than you. Tbh I wish you'd disappear rather than spread your hatred and bullshit on this site.
Saying he didn’t rate robins is just bollocks@GIMOC you didn't rate Robins and don't want Lampard. You dislike Austin, Dr Clare and King. You think we wasted £40m most of our players are shit and you take a sleight at Sheaf, yet you claim to be a City fan.
Fekkin Leicester Fox shows less disregard for our club than you. Tbh I wish you'd disappear rather than spread your hatred and bullshit on this site.
He did help develop Mount, I said that. I said with the exception of Bogle he didn't really develop any of Derby's own players.
In terms of metrics for his year at Derby being woeful:
xPts 15th
xG 19th
xG/per shot 21st
xGA 15th
There's no shame losing to Villa or Leeds but those underlying numbers are very, very worrying & clearly unsustainable for a team to consistently challenge at the top end. As I said, they were dragged into the playoffs by individual superstars playing below their true level, not due to any tactical or managerial genius. One example being Harry Wilson top scoring with 15 goals but 7 of them being from outside the penalty area, this is not repeatable stuff.
They finished 6th the previous season under Rowett as well but Lampard's team got fewer points, scored fewer goals & conceded more than Rowett's. So again, yes he has helped improve individual players (mostly for Chelsea's gain) but did he really improve Derby?
It's the Overson effectWhilst I personally appreciate the nuggets we get from the ITK guys a lot of them have bias, and there sources have bias. In Gimoc's case he and his source seem to have a massive anti-king lean for whatever reason.
I think Doug's fan forum showed us that we have to be careful taking every nugget we get as gospel.
Fair play I'll give him that oneSaying he didn’t rate robins is just bollocks
Maybe the foreign manager is Scottish.
Being saying this for what feels like years now.Whilst I personally appreciate the nuggets we get from the ITK guys a lot of them have bias, and there sources have bias. In Gimoc's case he and his source seem to have a massive anti-king lean for whatever reason.
I think Doug's fan forum showed us that we have to be careful taking every nugget we get as gospel.
We were.We're a midtable championship side
Yes, and most likely dropping into the zone. Thought we had to sack the manager because Doug was worried about relegation?That’s ridiculous though, we can’t just be writing 6 points off
Any manager who we would delay bringing onboard because we’re worried about their ability to handle Sheff Utd and Burnley isn’t worth hiring.The timing has been deliberate to get Sheff Utd and Burnley out of the way in the knowledge that the new manager won't have much leeway with fans and two defeats to start could be very damaging.
Be realistic. We could've hired Pep last week and would still be the underdogs in those games.Any manager who we would delay bringing onboard because we’re worried about their ability to handle Sheff Utd and Burnley isn’t worth hiring.
My read on it right now is that Lampard has been the #1 option the whole way through, Doug was probably aware he would be interested before he sacked Robins.
I'm sure a process has been conducted, but more from a standpoint of making sure Lampard is the man rather than an open view.
The timing has been deliberate to get Sheff Utd and Burnley out of the way in the knowledge that the new manager won't have much leeway with fans and two defeats to start could be very damaging.
This is of course all speculation but it's what everything seems to point to.
I have it on good authority that the foreign manager came in wearing a disguise and is none other than Dr Marc RobhinioWell out of the Gimoc list who do people want. For me probably Eustace depending on if there is a mystery 5 and who the foreign manager is.
Maybe so, but he’s a big boy, I’m sure he could handle the fallout. I’d have to seriously question the wisdom of hiring a manager who couldn’t.Be realistic. We could've hired Pep last week and would still be the underdogs in those games.
I also think these things take more time than they realise. For example, people need to be available for interviews, they need time to get their people in and bringing them in at a point that’s ideal for the players too. If we weren’t going to get a manager announced before tomorrow, then we’re not going to have the new manager take charge before Burnley because of the turnaround in games.The players & Carr showed at Sunderland they can get results in tough games. Points aren't being written off.
Realistically it's just a good decision, imagine if we lost heavily at home to Sheff Utd on tele with Hamer/O'Hare scoring. Would be an absolute disaster for the new manager.
Will be a watching brief from the stands whilst they await the result before deciding which way to spin it.I also think these things take more time than they realise. For example, people need to be available for interviews, they need time to get their people in and bringing them in at a point that’s ideal for the players too. If we weren’t going to get a manager announced before tomorrow, then we’re not going to have the new manager take charge before Burnley because of the turnaround in games.
It's not about handling anything though, in fact one of Lampard's strengths has been facing the media and fans.Maybe so, but he’s a big boy, I’m sure he could handle the fallout. I’d have to seriously question the wisdom of hiring a manager who couldn’t.
... but GIMOC said ...If cam's theory is right and it's been Lampard all along unless somebody else came forward to prove otherwise, then it feels unlikely that Broomfield or Eustace would be in the shortlist if you ask me.
You really dislike him, don't you. He must have really annoyed you or one of your associates. All you seem to post is hatred and negativity. Whilst I'm all for different opinions, all you post is destructive. It's weird we never hear any 'ITK' info that's positive.no announcement because there was never going to be an announcement.
king is on holiday
Each to their own and that's fair enough. Personally I can manage without knowing a signing a day before or the team an hour before others. Most of it isn't true and what is should be kept tighter in house.
So you think that a quick chat and a cup of tea and hey presto new manager appointed.The evidence is we have gone 15 days without a manager and are now playing 2 of the best teams in the league
Why?If cam's theory is right and it's been Lampard all along unless somebody else came forward to prove otherwise, then it feels unlikely that Broomfield or Eustace would be in the shortlist if you ask me.
It’s clear he’s wanted Lampard from the start, although it’s now done it should have been done a week ago so I’m not the clueless one hereSo you think that a quick chat and a cup of tea and hey presto new manager appointed.
You really are clueless as to the complexity of these negotiations
Why?
I think there was a genuine process, just King has obviously always had Lampard front and centre in his head (him confirming he was in the running was extremely odd).
I reckon Bloomfield would have jumped at any chance of the job, Wycombe is a dead end really, their long term ceiling is about where they are now. Eustace the cov connection too.
Garbage. You have no idea what was concluded and when . Pure guesswork .It’s clear he’s wanted Lampard from the start, although it’s now done it should have been done a week ago so I’m not the clueless one here
Give him a chance lad
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