Grendel
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I would hazard a guess at the Boer War. Kitchener and his concentration camp idea - all perfectly legal I'm sure.
From what point in history are you talking?
Without going over old ground, not saying it is right but TF could say they tried to get a temporary run off deal at the Ricoh but it was rejected but since moving us away the deals have slowly got a bit better for the club haven't they?
Again, it depends on the final outcome doesn't it? If the club goes to shit, I am more than happy to see them all locked up
You will find that ACL proposed a deal that went up and down depending on league. Ccfc wanted a fixed deal presumably expecting a quick return to the PL. A rent of £1.4M would then be relatively cheap (?). It was also outgoing rent at HR.
The risk to CCFC was the high rent if they went down the divisions. The risk came home.
I would hazard a guess at the Boer War. Kitchener and his concentration camp idea - all perfectly legal I'm sure.
They did get better. Tell me, did Otium ever consider any of them or did they deny that they'd even been made or make excuses like "no direct offer was made"? So again can you say that behaviour was acting in the best interests of the club?
Depends on what the international law was at the time I guess. I don't pretend to know what it was without Google. Do you? Do you think that Nazi concentration camps were legal?
Its nothing to do with international law is it? Britain was the super power at the time. As to this childish argument regarding concentration camps the answer really is the same. If Germany had succeeded in their list for domination they would of course have been legal.
One uk industry that definately was legal was the Slave trade. I guess you and Ron would be vehemently defending the trade and its owners as they were looking after their "shareholders" and boy was it legal.
Whether Germany won the war or not doesn't change the fact that they broke the Geneva convention which at the time of the events was law, wasn't it.
Why would I defend the slave trade? I was doing no more than correcting two people (maybe that should be three given your latest post) on there unbelievable assumptions that the Nazi concentration camps were some how legal. Where have I defended the behaviour of ACL's directors in this thread? Stop being an idiot.
Can you just explain then why concentration camp guards have been pursued by the authorities all over the world for the last 69 years if they did nothing illegal?
I'm slightly scared, scarred and worried...
One final point and then I will stop is that the trials in Nuremberg focused on illegal acts of war. I believe a new act of genocide was introduced specifically for the atrocities suffered by non combatants. So strictly speaking the acts commitment prior to the war were legal - these were not on trial.
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Jesus, they didn't promote it very well. Only just looked at it, bit late now!
Warwick District Council seem to have been ahead of the curve on that one and been doing it for years!
Like I say, surely we can judge on the behaviour from a business side when we see the "outcome". If their posturing and acting like dicks gets us back to the Ricoh on a much better deal then it may have paid off so could be judged in the best interests. If it all goes to shit, then of course not. Does it look like it now? Of course not as a fan but would it if we went back on a decent deal for the club?
If the offers / deals for the club got better by moving us to Northampton then it could be judged by some as a good move couldn't it?
You are either thick or massively naive. Or both.
It's extraordinary how ever since man came down from the trees, developed a front brain, wrote sublime poetry, music and literature that there are still those amongst us that have as much self awareness as a house brick.
I'm with you, bro. God bless the concentration camp guards, the black and tans and all the .
Why no mention of the NKVD, IRA, or Al-Qaeda?
Bit of left wing bias there?
Yet you seem pretty stuck on the worst kind of capitalism, namely a hedge fund such as sisu. Not really surprised though, you lefties are full of contradictions, hate religion and homophobia but love muslims! weird lot really.
Another selective example, the UK were late comers into that particular enterprise ( slavery). The Tribal Africans, the Arabs and the Ottamans were trading slaves long before the UK. But then again, never let personal bias get in the way of facts.Its nothing to do with international law is it? Britain was the super power at the time. As to this childish argument regarding concentration camps the answer really is the same. If Germany had succeeded in their list for domination they would of course have been legal.
One uk industry that definately was legal was the Slave trade. I guess you and Ron would be vehemently defending the trade and its owners as they were looking after their "shareholders" and boy was it legal.
Is it worth pissing off 90% your fanbase and losing millions to save a couple of hundred thousand a season (that you might not make back considering the lost support)?
They've thrown, what £6m away if they do two seasons there, conservative estimate? That means that any deal has to be a least £1m/year better off for us to just break even over the next 6 years on this move. Add in legal costs and that time goes up further. And it'll probably be more like 3 years and the gains closer to £500k (unless our fanbase picks back up to where it was).
Is it worth all this for something that might not pay off for close to 20 years?
It's not about the club Nick.
So you are saying that all this shit, sisu have dragged our club through, could "judged by some", possibly be a good move. I assume that the " some", are you and the other small band of deluded sisu sympathisers on this forum. The rest of us see it as it really is, a hedge fund trying to distress another company, in the hope that it will fail, then getting it for a bargain price. It has nothing to do with rent, when will you and the other sisu luvvies begin to understand this. The rent was in place when these sisu idiots took over, remember?Like I say, surely we can judge on the behaviour from a business side when we see the "outcome". If their posturing and acting like dicks gets us back to the Ricoh on a much better deal then it may have paid off so could be judged in the best interests. If it all goes to shit, then of course not. Does it look like it now? Of course not as a fan but would it if we went back on a decent deal for the club?
If the offers / deals for the club got better by moving us to Northampton then it could be judged by some as a good move couldn't it?
So you are saying that all this shit, sisu have dragged our club through, could "judged by some", possibly be a good move. I assume that the " some", are you and the other small band of deluded sisu sympathisers on this forum. The rest of us see it as it really is, a hedge fund trying to distress another company, in the hope that it will fail, then getting it for a bargain price. It has nothing to do with rent, when will you and the other sisu luvvies begin to understand this. The rent was in place when these sisu idiots took over, remember?
I really do not get some of you people, but then again, no, never mind.
Is it worth pissing off 90% your fanbase and losing millions to save a couple of hundred thousand a season (that you might not make back considering the lost support)?
They've thrown, what £6m away if they do two seasons there, conservative estimate? That means that any deal has to be a least £1m/year better off for us to just break even over the next 6 years on this move. Add in legal costs and that time goes up further. And it'll probably be more like 3 years and the gains closer to £500k (unless our fanbase picks back up to where it was).
Is it worth all this for something that might not pay off for close to 20 years?
It's not about the club Nick.
limoncello;747472 Not really surprised though said:Corporal and Capital punishment, women kept in their place, perhaps UKIP and radical Muslims should save a bit of money and have a joint manifesto?
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