Tim Fisher isn't doing his job, his job and legal responsibility as a director of Otium entertainment is do what is best for Otium entertainment he is not doing that, he is doing what Joy Seppala thinks is best for Arvo Masterfund and SISU. If Tim Fisher and Mark Labovich were doing their jobs we'd be at the Ricoh.
Yeah but, but, but, but , but, but, but, but, but, but. That is different yeah?
I didn't say he was doing a good job, just that he is doing his job so by your theory you can't dislike him, else it would be bitter and twisted.
What is even more bitter and twisted is saying it but only meaning it for one side and finding excuses for the other.
oh and I know the response to this so I'll save you the typing, blah blah blah, long term future, blah blah blah, food and beverage revenues, I don't believe it, you don't believe it, Tim Fisher doesn't believe it, Mark Labovich doesn't believe it, moving to Northampton was not in the best interests of Otium Entertainment and thus Fisher and Labovich aren't fulfilling their legal obligations as directors.
I'm not sure if you are deliberately not trying to understand or not. You may have a point about Seppala, but Fisher you are onto a loser I'm afraid.
Fisher is a director of CCFC/Otium, yet he is not acting in the best interests of the company he is supposedly in charge of.
All those positions were within the law. Your logic is shit.
I am not sure if you are trying to miss the point or not, I can't remember saying he was doing a great job. I just said he was doing his job, but maybe not greatly
It was you who made the broad statement that it is bitter and twisted for disliking somebody for doing their job but are finding reasons to dislike somebody for erm, doing their job
I am happy to be bitter and twisted by thinking every party involved is made up of dickheads.
If you looked objectively, and took the emotion out of it...
Moving to Northampton has so far got concessions from ACL that were never even considered before; this is in Otium's interests;
Moving to Northampton was part of the strategy to break the lease and thus offer more flexibility in what is on offer; this is in Otium's interests.
The rhetoric from CCC has changed from 'the Ricoh is not for sale' to 'we will talk about anything'; this is in Otium's interests.
Objectively, there are many things that have been in Otium's interests. If we insist on discussing this in financial terms then yes, moving to Northampton has been in Otium's interests.
The social is another matter...
I'm with you, bro. God bless the concentration camp guards, the black and tans and all the CIA torturers.
My point is he is not doing his job. He is carrying out the responsibilities associated with a Sisu director, not a CCFC/Otium one.
Oh, concentration camps were within the law? Could you tell me what the Nuremberg trials were about please?
Torture is permitted under the US constitution?
Atrocities committed against British citizens is permitted on UK soil?
Please think before insulting me.
My point is he is not doing his job. He is carrying out the responsibilities associated with a Sisu director, not a CCFC/Otium one.
I can't see how anyone could argue otherwise Ron. Someone will give it a go though I'm sure.
I think he meant modern law I.e not living in the past. And the concentration camps were not within the law. The red cross was infiltrate by the Nazis during the course of the war so they turned a blind eye to it while it was happening and any Nazis they could find were trialed after the war and others are still being seeked to this very day so they can face trial. Hence the term war criminal. Your "logic" isn't logic.
What do you think about concentration camps that were set up by the British? Are these acceptable in comparison to those countries from EUSSR?
He is doing what he is told and getting paid for it, I would say that is doing his job isn't it? Whether we like it or not.
If he was in his bosses eyes doing his job wrong, surely he would be a gonna? Surely his employers judge whether he is doing his job or not though?
Is he breaking any laws? If so, report him and get him done for it.
This isn't me saying I think he is doing a fantastic job, just pointing out the faults in your statement. You say people can be bitter and twisted for disliking somebody doing their job, but have a signature like yours?
If you looked objectively, and took the emotion out of it...
Moving to Northampton has so far got concessions from ACL that were never even considered before; this is in Otium's interests;
Moving to Northampton was part of the strategy to break the lease and thus offer more flexibility in what is on offer; this is in Otium's interests.
The rhetoric from CCC has changed from 'the Ricoh is not for sale' to 'we will talk about anything'; this is in Otium's interests.
Objectively, there are many things that have been in Otium's interests. If we insist on discussing this in financial terms then yes, moving to Northampton has been in Otium's interests from a certain perspective.
The social is another matter...
If you Google directors duties by law you'll come across a government website and it states that it is law that a director must always act in the best interest of the company that they are director off. Can you say hand on heart that moving to Northampton is in the best interests for CCFC as opposed to one of the many temporary offers ACL made on the run up to and during last season?
What do you think about concentration camps that were set up by the British? Are these acceptable in comparison to those countries from EUSSR?
Exactly, it depends through whos eyes you are looking through in terms of "doing their job".
Don't confuse him -- history isn't his strong point
Does that not depend on what the aims of the company are?
Have you reported him?
It's strong enough to know that Nazi concentration camps were not legal. More than can be said about your tag team partner bitter lemon.
You are either thick or massively naive. Or both.
Exactly, it depends through whos eyes you are looking through in terms of "doing their job".
I don't think they were illegal in Germany.
Does that not depend on what the aims of the company are?
Have you reported him?
Can you just explain then why concentration camp guards have been pursued by the authorities all over the world for the last 69 years if they did nothing illegal?
What is the aim of Otium then?
I don't think I have the authority to report him. That would be the accounts auditors call I believe. If you read the guidelines they are typically ambiguous so it will probably never happen.
Besides I was asking you if the temporary move to Northampton does more for the financial stability of the club than a temporary deal at the Ricoh. Unsurprisingly you dodged the question.
I don't think they were illegal in Germany.
I guess it depends on the longterm happenings doesn't it? If it turns out that by moving it put the club in a better position at the Ricoh in terms of rent, pies then it could be deemed in the best interests long term? If we go tits up tomorrow because of it, then of course
Stupid decision known by most thoughHence I said everybody involved is a dickhead but apparently bitter and twisted for it.
I don't think they were illegal in Germany.
Lets compare eggs with eggs Nick. A temporary deal at the Ricoh against a temporary deal at Suxfields? If (if) we end up with our own ground at the end of any temporary deal surely TF is honour bound to make sure any temporary deal is best for the club. Has he done that?
Might have been 1.8m. Can't remember exactly. This is prior to sisu
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