italiahorse
Well-Known Member
Rubbish !!
The sliding scale rent was £2m per year if the club ever made it to the Prem.
The sliding scale rent was £2m per year if the club ever made it to the Prem.
Saved the club from administa tion. Then put into administration anyway, for a £1.5 million debt.
Paid off transfer fees the previous regime were unable to pay.More debt on the club, not SISU.
Investing money in the squad when they first arrived. Then let said players leave on frees before being relegated the following season.
Sacking Thorn. Hired him in the first place.
Waggot seems to hire decent managers. Have to agree with this
Got us out of the most expensive rental contract in English football. And lost £3 million+ in revenue by moving us away.
The development of the academy. Agreed, but almost lost it's status, plus Rioch made a hasty exit :thinking about:
Attempting to undo years of mismanagement, which should have been done years ago So why did they not do it years ago, rather than the shambles we are in now?
ccfc92- I think that Sisu have been a disaster for us. I hold them, as well as ACL & CCC, as being responsible for our downfall.
The hiring and continued employment of Thorn summed them up, yet many on here agreed with them about Thorn's qualities and wanted to keep him on. That season was a very dark period for the club, and one we may never recover from.
At the end of the day though, a lot on here expect an individual to pour money into the club and expect nothing in return. Then leaving quietly, before another individual pours even more money in.
I completely see where your coming from, but would you agree that there doesn't have to be money poured in? A return to the Ricoh, plus the revenues that ccfc makes, going to the club will put us in a good financial state. We don't "need" to own the whole of the Ricoh, we want to, but surely a Ricoh takeover would require Money poured in?
I agree with what you say, we should be playing at the Ricoh. At the moment the club feels poweless in comparison to sisu and acl. The club is dying while they piss around.
The impression that many give is that the club should give acl whatever theu demand. Also, that they believe acl actually care about the club. Both of these views are counter-productive.
I agree with what you say, we should be playing at the Ricoh. At the moment the club feels poweless in comparison to sisu and acl. The club is dying while they piss around.
The impression that many give is that the club should give acl whatever theu demand. Also, that they believe acl actually care about the club. Both of these views are counter-productive.
That is why so many of us, whilst acknowledging that neither have CCFC as their priority, can empathise more with the position of ACL.
How? & why?
Yeahh I know what you mean. Surely though, what is owed to them should be payed?
I know what you mean, but I'd say Acl want the club there rather than care about them if that makes sense. Plus they are more trustworthy, and don't really draw things out. remember when they refunded the club the match day costs?
Because ACL board members are trying to do what is best for ACL.
Do you begrudge board members doing what is best for the long term survival of their business?
No of course not. Doesn't explain why you and others feel empathy for them though. I couldn't care less if they went out of business.
I agree that CCFC should pay ACL thr amount that the FL decide on. How would you feel if the FL said 300k, then ACL continued to demand the extra 290k before discussing a Ricoh return.
I'm sure that they want us there to make money off us. They would be more than happy for us to be paying 1.2m rent a year. No idea why you think they are trustworthy.
No of course not. Doesn't explain why you and others feel empathy for them though. I couldn't care less if they went out of business.
No of course not. Doesn't explain why you and others feel empathy for them though. I couldn't care less if they went out of business.
Quite. WHen it becomes a business dispute, then it's hard to feel sympathy for any position.
Although empathy is another thing altogether of course
Money money money, makes the world go round and clubs bugger off because it stops being about the social.
The lease is their main asset, is it transferable?
Presumably it would if it could be sold to the highest bidder.
Then it would be up to them.
Anyway SISU have made it clear than the Ricoh would be a short term option whilst our new ground is built.
Because on one hand we have a business that has tried to do everything properly and by the book.
On the other we have a business (CCFC) that went into self destruct mode by deliberately distressing ACL in order to please its parent company.
Its difficult to dislike the board of ACL for doing what their supposed to do.
Might have been 1.8m. Can't remember exactly. This is prior to sisuRubbish !!
I would wager that you'd be hard pressed finding fans of other clubs talking about their own team in this way.
Imagine reading that on a West Ham, Spurs or even a Leicester forum.
Its difficult to dislike the board of ACL for doing what their supposed to do.
The lease is their main asset, is it transferable?
Presumably it would if it could be sold to the highest bidder.
Then it would be up to them.
Anyway SISU have made it clear than the Ricoh would be a short term option whilst our new ground is built.
Say what? It is difficult to like any party involved in any of this.
I would wager that you'd be hard pressed finding fans of other clubs talking about their own team in this way.
Imagine reading that on a West Ham, Spurs or even a Leicester forum.
I cant dislike an individual for carrying out the responsibilities of their job.
To do so is just bitter and twisted.
So you can't dislike SISU for just doing their job as a hedge fund or can't dislike Tim Fisher for doing his job or Seppalla for her job?
I get you, actually no, they are all massive dickheads. All parties.
I cant dislike an individual for carrying out the responsibilities of their job.
To do so is just bitter and twisted.
I would wager that you'd be hard pressed finding fans of other clubs talking about their own team in this way.
Imagine reading that on a West Ham, Spurs or even a Leicester forum.
I'm with you, bro. God bless the concentration camp guards, the black and tans and all the CIA torturers.
Don't be a Dick, obviously I mean things that are within the law and public decency.
So you can't dislike SISU for just doing their job as a hedge fund or can't dislike Tim Fisher for doing his job or Seppalla for her job?
I get you, actually no, they are all massive dickheads. All parties.
All those positions were within the law. Your logic is shit.
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