Brighton Sky Blue
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Well someone needs to fork out for better pitch maintenance staff than is currently available.
If you were able to force these issues then I'm sure they would have tried.
Now it's a pretty pointless debate though. What needs to be done to get us a playable surface is the issue.
The people that own the pitch and are contracted to do it.Well someone needs to fork out for better pitch maintenance staff than is currently available.
Christ, not that smug c**t Appleton againThe conspiracy theorist in me thinks sisu know Wasps are trying to manage their own administration around the corner the way that they did with ours.
What they're doing by not forcing the pitch is building up a significant enough charge against Wasps so we can force the admin and get someone more favourable to manage it which will result in a ccfc owned arena.
Yeah because it's that simple.So sort the pitch ourselves and take it out of the rental package. Clearly Wasps didn't do anything because they're skint and if we're already committed to giving them money it's no extra expense
The people that own the pitch and are contracted to do it.
Unfortunately they can't afford it and I doubt would agree to us doing it and withholding rent for it so it's going to go legal.
Yeah because it's that simple.
Because it's not our stadium.It's not our fault but it nevertheless looks like we didn't take any tangible action
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Of course it would. We'd still have to pay the rent. Wasps wouldn't agree to us fixing a pitch which they don't care about and taking it out if the rent.It wouldn't be any extra money above what we're already paying them
Exactly. Just trying to shift the blame to the club is like trying to reorder the deckchairs on the titanic. Wasps are the stadium owners, they look after the pitch, they promised to relay a new pitch. Its entirely their fault. We are where we are.If you were able to force these issues then I'm sure they would have tried.
Now it's a pretty pointless debate though. What needs to be done to get us a playable surface is the issue.
We already paid, or at least contributed, to the heat lamps. Where does it end?Well someone needs to fork out for better pitch maintenance staff than is currently available.
Was just going to say the same, the Telegraph when reporting on the planned pitch improvements mentioned how much Swansea pay to have a pitch suitable for duel sports.Exactly. Just trying to shift the blame to the club is like trying to reorder the deckchairs on the titanic. Wasps are the stadium owners, they look after the pitch, they promised to relay a new pitch. Its entirely their fault. We are where we are.
I'm not sure where the cost if £100k comes from anyway, Wembley's pitch cost £250k to relay in 2010. With inflation that would cost £312k now.
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Swansea spend around £30,000 every year to ensure the turf is in top condition, although, ahead of the 2019/20 campaign, the club forked out more than £550,000 to completely renew their pitch
Might be lucky to get 2 home games this side of the world cup.This extract from the EFL statement is quite worrying:
“In addition, the report confirmed that there is no maintenance work possible that would make the pitch safe in time for Tuesday’s game”
Exactly. Some of the 'solutions ' people are suggesting here are so naive. As if Wasps would agree to any of this.We don't have access to the stadium and we can't unilaterally withhold rent.
I don't know but has it occurred to you that it's Wasps fault not ours?it is but what in reality are we going to do about it?
yeah like not signing playersExactly. Some of the 'solutions ' people are suggesting here are so naive. As if Aasps would agree to any of this.
Because that way they can blame the club.Exactly. Some of the 'solutions ' people are suggesting here are so naive. As if Aasps would agree to any of this.
Even if we could when would we relay? They told us in June when there were 2 concerts then the CWG no window to do itWe could have relaid there out not signed say palmer - we have to answer to tbe EFL and not wasps it’s our problem
I'd go and do it myself if I could but it's not my stadium.Who said it was? Just to make the effort.
I don't know but has it occurred to you that it's Wasps fault not ours?
Im sick of this
This will result in a Relegation scrap
No way this doesnt have an affect on the players and staff.
The one time we have a good season, the one time that for thte first time in 20 years it looked like we weren't a fucking backwards club with actual prospects and targets, all the off field stuff not being an issue then BAM
Wasps are cunts i bang that drum everyday, but now Boddy finally admits we've known about this for 2 months after flat out denying it the other day really fucks me off.
I really think we will be playing elsewhere again, and if that happens them sorry il be asking for my hard earned £450 spent on me and the kids season ticket money back.
I'm not going through that shit again
Might sack this and twitter off for a few days now as its really getting me down.
No it isn't, you agree with Wasps that given they can't invest in the pitch you will invest some of the rent in it, no court needs to be involved in basic commercial negotiationAbsolute nonsense isn't it. It comes across as wasps apologist nonsense.
The idea we would just take it off the rent is bonkers. Wasps would take us to court for not paying rent.
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Because the loss of rent isn't immediate but could be spread across the year or even two yearsI just don't see how 'we can't afford to spend £100k on a pitch' turns into 'ok we'll lose out on £100k in rent and you do the pitch'
So why didn't they use the rent paid for it already?No it isn't, you agree with Wasps that given they can't invest in the pitch you will invest some of the rent in it, no court needs to be involved in basic commercial negotiation
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Exactly they said “we’re not relaying the pitch” not “we’re not relaying the pitch and doing fuck all to the current one”Realistically what action could the club have taken. What they were told was that a new pitch wasn't being laid as promised. It doesn't then follow automatically that Wasps are going to do fuck all to ensure the current pitch is fit for purpose. You can still have a reasonable exception that the most basic criteria of leasing a football stadium would be met.
Because it's a large capital outlaySo why didn't they use the rent paid for it already?
Because it's a large capital outlay
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That entirely relies on wasps agreeing. They need cash flow, they aren't arsed about the pitch.No it isn't, you agree with Wasps that given they can't invest in the pitch you will invest some of the rent in it, no court needs to be involved in basic commercial negotiation
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I don't think they have that amount of time tbhBecause the loss of rent isn't immediate but could be spread across the year or even two years
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Why would they agree to that?Because the loss of rent isn't immediate but could be spread across the year or even two years
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We already paid, or at least contributed, to the heat lamps. Where does it end?
If we're paying the cost of everything because Wasps have no money then that's a major contract renegotiation which I doubt would be quick as we'll want that cost offset elsewhere at the very least
That entirely relies on wasps agreeing. They need cash flow, they aren't arsed about the pitch.
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We know from the other side how difficult it is to get any remedy when somebody breaks an agreement however.Therefore it's them breaking the agreement.
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