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Cards on the table: where will we finish? (5 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Brighton Sky Blue
  • Start date Apr 29, 2025
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Where will we finish?

  • In the top 6

    Votes: 151 78.2%
  • Out of the top 6

    Votes: 42 21.8%

  • Total voters
    193
  • Poll closed May 4, 2025.
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #141
Lamps said:
I kind of agree. But you never know the state of the clubs getting relegated from the Prem. This season it was the turn of Luton.

Next season could be very interesting. Leicester? Their supporters are boycotting. They should be getting a points deduction. Their main striker qualifies for his free bus pass in a few years. Southampton? Trying to break records but all for the wrong reasons. Both sides will have to change their squads.
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Would love to see Leicester fall, but they’ve got more lives than a cat that refuses to pay its suppliers.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #142
Evo1883 said:
I already stated robins had plenty of credit in the bank , lampard has none
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Credit for failing?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #143
Grendel said:
Credit for failing?
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Robins was very succesful here there's no debate , and last season fans probably gave him the benefit for reaching the fa cup semi final

He had plenty of Credit in the bank with most fans
 

Lamps

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #144
Evo1883 said:
Thats all I'm doing , everybody is happy to praise the good run which featured lady luck on our side a couple times ..

But its currently poor and only a win saturday will glaze over that
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It's all I do but I get jumped on for defending Robins and jumped on for defending Lampard. Then I get jumped on for saying something against Robins and jumped on for saying something against Lampard

We should beat Middlesbrough at home. But I do have a big niggling doubt in my mind. Collins
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #145
shmmeee said:
Would love to see Leicester fall, but they’ve got more lives than a cat that refuses to pay its suppliers.
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They also have alot of very good championship players under contract which helps
 

Otis

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #146
Thing is for me, I had this down as a very good season and am happy with Lampard.

However, from the position we were in, we should have clearly cemented our play off place. However, we lost to Derby, Plymouth and Luton and only drew at Hull, so it's been a disappointing last few games.

Undoubtedly, for me, if we don't make the playoffs, the season will have become a failure. Just simply through the capitulation of the form and especially losing games we should have at least been expecting a point from, at the death.
 
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Lamps

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #147
Grendel said:
Credit for failing?
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Yes he failed at Wembley just after taking over. Then he failed in our first season in League 2. He failed when we went to Northampton and then Birmingham meaning we didn't have any proper home games. He failed in his wheeling and dealing which ended up with us having Gyokeres and Hamer which were sold to pay for the squad we now have. He even failed when we became League 1 champions whilst playing our home games in Birmingham.

Back to the truth. When we got relegated nobody could see a way back up. Your bias means you try to make him look like a failure. You called him a taxi season after season. I wouldn't like to think where we would be without him. Calling him a failure when he took us from League 2 to losing on penalties to get to the Prem just isn't true.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #148
Evo1883 said:
The home form is good

Recently he has shown zero pragmatism away from home
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I recently gave a theory on what I think has happened and why he’s done it. Drilling the players in just one system so they properly understand what they’re doing, which will naturally come unstuck against well prepared opposition but do fine against certain styles regardless.

Over summer the same work goes in to another system and that problem is solved
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #149
Grendel said:
Credit for failing?
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Overall he did a very good job. You have to be the ultimate contrarian to say otherwise
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #150
shmmeee said:
More Ifs than Rudyard Kiplings publishers there.

Were the same as WBA Millwall Norwich Boro Bristol Sunderland. If we start slowly we could sack our manager. We have failed off. These are all traits of play off chasing sides in the Championship of which we are one. If a team breaks away like Ipswich it Sunderland it’s usually an element of fluke or a ton of cash. And Wrexham and Birmingham will almost certainly outspend Plymouth and even on the same spend could likely attract better because of their hype.
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Strongly disagree. I’m obviously biased, the league table doesn’t lie and we’ve been better than all the teams you’ve listed since Lampard has come in. If we keep our main players and add to it, there’s no reason we can’t build on this.

WBA since Corberan has left have been operating at near relegation form (0 aways wins since he’s left). Norwich will have their best players poached this summer and are a club on the decline but could see them to rebuilding to be honest. Millwall are the least equipped to contend with the playoffs of the teams mentioned. As for Boro, they’ve been regressing steadily since 22/23. Bristol is a tricky one, they have the resources to build on this season but their results have outperformed the data metrics and that’s not typically a good sign.

We’ll see about Birmingham and Wrexham, it’s too early to judge. I just don’t but the hype yet hut will be looking forward to those away days.

You fundamentally doubt Lampard and that’s fine, but it explains how you’re inherently sceptical of anything good that we do.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #151
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I recently gave a theory on what I think has happened and why he’s done it. Drilling the players in just one system so they properly understand what they’re doing, which will naturally come unstuck against well prepared opposition but do fine against certain styles regardless.

Over summer the same work goes in to another system and that problem is solved
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We had another system and it gave us our best spell of the season.
It should have been used in at least a couple more of our away games recently.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #152
shmmeee said:
Would love to see Leicester fall, but they’ve got more lives than a cat that refuses to pay its suppliers.
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They may be on their 9th life because the EFL may move to impose a ‘sustainable business plan’ on them which means gutting their squad.

I’ll reserve judgement because we thought Sheff U may struggle and they signed lots of players on fees/big contracts and spent the season in the top 3.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #153
Evo1883 said:
Robins was very succesful here there's no debate , and last season fans probably gave him the benefit for reaching the fa cup semi final

He had plenty of Credit in the bank with most fans
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By your own admission Simms has not performed. BTA and Bassette were strange signings. EMC delivered nothing under Robins. The one effective player as a forward was injured when Lampard arrived.

Robins refused to play Kitching and had no back up RWB and a poor signing at LWB. We managed to get Grimes as another failed signing - Palmer - refused to stay.

There is a strong case to make that once Viveash left the cracks became a chasm and he was taking the club backwards
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #154
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I recently gave a theory on what I think has happened and why he’s done it. Drilling the players in just one system so they properly understand what they’re doing, which will naturally come unstuck against well prepared opposition but do fine against certain styles regardless.

Over summer the same work goes in to another system and that problem is solved
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Maybe. But I see it differently.

He loves to play a high line. He is happy for our defenders to attack. But this plays into the hands of the sides that pack their side of the pitch then play the long ball over the top of our defence e.g. Plymouth. Also it doesn't work well when playing against the better sides with better players. They are good at defence splitting passes.

I suppose it could be a bit of both.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #155
clint van damme said:
We had another system and it gave us our best spell of the season.
It should have been used in at least a couple more of our away games recently.
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The personnel wasn’t the same.

The reason 5-3-2 worked so well is because the midfield 3 complemented each other perfectly. Torp and Rudoni played so high and wide, they were operating like an LM and RM up the pitch at times. A midfield trio of Grimes-Sheaf-Rudoni fundamentally alters that system.

It also ignores the games where we were lucky to get a result. Away games like Sheff W, Swansea, Blackburn where there were times we were open and could’ve conceded first.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #156
Grendel said:
By your own admission Simms has not performed. BTA and Bassette were strange signings. EMC delivered nothing under Robins. The one effective player as a forward was injured when Lampard arrived.

Robins refused to play Kitching and had no back up RWB and a poor signing at LWB. We managed to get Grimes as another failed signing - Palmer - refused to stay.

There is a strong case to make that once Viveash left the cracks became a chasm and he was taking the club backwards
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In the playoff season we started with less points with adi here


You would argue simms is worse this season under lampard than he was last season under robins in fairness
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #157
In any case, 80% of the forum thinking we’ll do it on Saturday is good going
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #158
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In any case, 80% of the forum thinking we’ll do it on Saturday is good going
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I just dont know tbh ,our home form suggests we will do it .
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #159
Evo1883 said:
In the playoff season we started with less points with adi here


You would argue simms is worse this season under lampard than he was last season under robins in fairness
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We started with less than 0 points?
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #160
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In the scenario where you know you’re going to lose I’d rather lose at Bramall Lane than Wembley.
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Why? Wembley is a great occasion.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #161
Grendel said:
Why? Wembley is a great occasion.
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It would be gut wrenching, but yeh i'd like another day at Wembley tbh. Nets the club a few quid too.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #162
TomRad85 said:
We started with less than 0 points?
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No apologies after 14 games last season we had 1 more point than this season and that was with adi and Dennis .

We started the season slowly with and without adi was the point tbh
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #163
Grendel said:
Why? Wembley is a great occasion.
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Would save me alot of money
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #164
Evo1883 said:
Would save me alot of money
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If we were to beat Sheff U, you’d have to back us beating Bristol City or Sunderland.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #165
Mucca Mad Boys said:
If we were to beat Sheff U, you’d have to back us beating Bristol City or Sunderland.
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You've always got a chance in a 1 off game
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #166
Grendel said:
Why? Wembley is a great occasion.
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Because the OP being replied to was in the event of losing at some point
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #167
Mucca Mad Boys said:
The personnel wasn’t the same.

The reason 5-3-2 worked so well is because the midfield 3 complemented each other perfectly. Torp and Rudoni played so high and wide, they were operating like an LM and RM up the pitch at times. A midfield trio of Grimes-Sheaf-Rudoni fundamentally alters that system.

It also ignores the games where we were lucky to get a result. Away games like Sheff W, Swansea, Blackburn where there were times we were open and could’ve conceded first.
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Dont agree.

We should have used it in more games than We have recently.
And to say we were lucky against Swansea and Blackburn is laughable.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #168
clint van damme said:
Dont agree.

We should have used it in more games than We have recently.
And to say we were lucky against Swansea and Blackburn is laughable.
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I generally put blackburn and Swansea as lampards 2 best away performances
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #169
clint van damme said:
Dont agree.

We should have used it in more games than We have recently.
And to say we were lucky against Swansea and Blackburn is laughable.
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I agree, we were very good value for the win against Swansea though admittedly we had signed their talisman the day before.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #170
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Because the OP being replied to was in the event of losing at some point
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Having experienced losing a QF shoot out at Sheffield I would take Wembley any day - its a fantastic occasion regardless of outcome
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #171
clint van damme said:
Dont agree.

We should have used it in more games than We have recently.
And to say we were lucky against Swansea and Blackburn is laughable.
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Yeh we were very comfortable in those games overall. I do recall Dovin making some strong saves in a lot of the games we won that could have changed the direction of a game. Not saying that's lucky, its what you want from your keeper and what recruiting a good keeper gets you but i do wonder if we win all those games with Collins in the net like we have now? In fact i'm pretty sure i know the answer
 

clint van damme

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #172
TomRad85 said:
Yeh we were very comfortable in those games overall. I do recall Dovin making some strong saves in a lot of the games we won that could have changed the direction of a game. Not saying that's lucky, its what you want from your keeper and what recruiting a good keeper gets you but i do wonder if we win all those games with Collins in the net like we have now? In fact i'm pretty sure i know the answer
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I'm not sure where this idea that teams shouldn't conced goals/chances come from though?

Is it Burnley, who are an absolute anomaly

It's normal in all leagues but especially the Championship
 

TomRad85

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #173
clint van damme said:
I'm not sure where this idea that teams shouldn't conced goals/chances come from though?

Is it Burnley, who are an absolute anomaly

It's normal in all leagues but especially the Championship
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I know, but i'm saying Collins is changing the direction of games at the moment with how bad he is, I think we would have done then too, regardless of formation.
 
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fatso

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  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #174
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I would rather go out before Wembley than have a third year in a row of super high tension, high stakes defeat
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Wouldn't want to miss out on our annual trip to Wembley.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2025
  • #175
TomRad85 said:
I know, but i'm saying Collins is changing the direction of games at the moment with how bad he is, I think we would have done then too, regardless of formation.
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I see your point.
Though I think two games where we really got the tactics wrong were Sheff U and Plymouth and I think he was not culpable in the former (obviously), and not as culpable as the defence in the latter
 
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