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StevieM

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  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #596
Evans1883 said:
I fear pressley will do a thorn and stick with a formation that simply doesnt work , we need to go 442 obrien right side , swanson left with fleck and thomas central , but we need q good CM As thomas otfers us nothing , miller and tudgay upfront
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I was talking to a Barnsley fan on my holiday and he said that O'Brien is no wide player, he hasn't got the burst of pace to get past the defender. He said his best games were central mid and as a box-box player he was much better. Elvis needs an experienced holding player...Thomas is not the answer.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #597
Pressley:- Really good in the second half.
Again, mentioned a lot of positives.
A lot to be encouraged about.
Have to play with less fear.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #598
Pressley:- Excited by the O'Brien, Swanson partnership.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #599
StevieM said:
I was talking to a Barnsley fan on my holiday and he said that O'Brien is no wide player, he hasn't got the burst of pace to get past the defender. He said his best games were central mid and as a box-box player he was much better. Elvis needs an experienced holding player...Thomas is not the answer.
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O'Brien looks to show some good touches, I think we have some good ball players but don't have any pace and power.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #600
Would have had Port Vale away
 
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Chez78

New Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #601
Fucking hell listen to us all!!!! What on gods earth did we expect?? We've sold or released all our best players, replaced them without just about anyone who was desperate enough to join us, filled the rest of the gap with young lads who are either not ready or not good enough and we expect to beat a team that was playing premier league football last year. I've got no problem with all this say ten games in if it's still this shit, but both our two games we've played i expected to loose (hopeful of a draw at Bradford). We're flat broke playing in front of 1500 fans and we're all,pissed off with it, turning on the players and gaffer who are making the best of a god awful situation not caused by them is not the answer.
 

skybluepm2

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #602
larry_david said:
I thought Burge looked decent actually
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Bit flappy. He didn't do badly but he's no Joe Murphy. Not to say he won't turn into a good goalkeeper in future but he or Allsop aren't what we need at present
 
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logjoe

New Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #603
fernandopartridge said:
Better last half hour. Swanson better back in midfield. Fleck too fat and too off the pace. Willis and Clarke going backwards as players.
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Pressley has gone on the record over flecks wieght
 

skybluepm2

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #604
Marty said:
Pressley:- Excited by the O'Brien, Swanson partnership.
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Yep, 2 players he brought in as out and out wingers are now a partnership in central midfield!
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #605
Chez78 said:
Fucking hell listen to us all!!!! What on gods earth did we expect?? We've sold or released all our best players, replaced them without just about anyone who was desperate enough to join us, filled the rest of the gap with young lads who are either not ready or not good enough and we expect to beat a team that was playing premier league football last year. I've got no problem with all this say ten games in if it's still this shit, but both our two games we've played i expected to loose (hopeful of a draw at Bradford). We're flat broke playing in front of 1500 fans and we're all,pissed off with it, turning on the players and gaffer who are making the best of a god awful situation not caused by them is not the answer.
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Pride & effort would be a good start. I'd be embarrassed if I played that poorly at Sunday league level. Yes he's stuck in a shit situation, but the players brought in aren't rejects we've picked up from nowhere. Some of them played at a higher level then this last season. The things he can control hes messed up on, the formation and tempo is down to him.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #606
skybluepm2 said:
Yep, 2 players he brought in as out and out wingers are now a partnership in central midfield!
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this .
 
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Cheshire Sky Blue

New Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #607
turlykerd said:
HA HA HA HA HE HE HE HE HE HA HA HA HA HA

if ever there was an advert for boycotting it must be this drivel !!

You mean to tell me some of you actually pay to attend ??

Holy fuck !!

I WOULD RATHER WATCH AN ALL WOMAN DOWNS SYNDROME MATCH than this ... And you've fuckin paid for it !!!!

TF must be shouting out "suckers" at the top of his whiney girl
Voice
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Not fucking funny at all you twat
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #608
MK Dons of all clubs will be getting a nice pay day of United
 

LJC_CCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #609
RIGHT



The problem is the formation plain and simple, if you can't see this you're as blind as Pressley.



Clarke and Pugh aren't wing backs, yet at times are our only attacking threat. They along with the two forwards find themselves in forward areas but have no midfielders to link up with.



The midfield three don't know what their exact roles are, and only have each other to pass the ball to, before ultimately going backwards.



The whole structure is wrong and as a result we invite pressure on, whilst allowing the other team to dominate the ball.



When we occasionally get forward, they're aren't enough bodies in advanced positions for us to create anything.



These are good players, they just haven't a fucking clue how to play this system. Play 4-4-2 and we would reap the rewards. 5-3-2 just restricts a teams ability to attack. Even the Dutch got it wrong in the WC against Costa Rica, if they'ed set up in a 4-3-3 they would have won the game easily, by setting up in a 5-3-2 they allowed Costa Rica possession and a foothold in the game
 
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Chez78

New Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #610
Marty said:
Pride & effort would be a good start. I'd be embarrassed if I played that poorly at Sunday league level. Yes he's stuck in a shit situation, but the players brought in aren't rejects we've picked up from nowhere. Some of them played at a higher level then this last season. The things he can control hes messed up on, the formation and tempo is down to him.
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Can't argue the formation and tempo or the overall appearance of effort, if you've played though like most of us have how many times have you tried playing a different style and it's just not worked?? . Like I said if he doesn't learn from this and change it back I'll be one of the first to voice my frustration but two games in is daft.

As for the signings you can't tell me if he was given 1.25mil of the Wilson money he would of still assembled the same squad I'm just not having that, yes they are his signings but are they really what he wanted?
 

LJC_CCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #611
At least Elvis is happy
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #612
LJC_CCFC said:
The problem is the formation plain and simple, if you can't see this you're as blind as Pressley.... These are good players, they just haven't a fucking clue how to play this system
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I'm not saying there's no truth in some of what you've offered; but.....

.... we are significantly weaker than last year; and post-Christmas, we were already showing relegation form. The problem is significantly more profound than the system, for God's sake
 

LJC_CCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #613
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
I'm not saying there's no truth in some of what you've offered; but.....

.... we are significantly weaker than last year; and post-Christmas, we were already showing relegation form. The problem is significantly more profound than the system, for God's sake
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It is one of the main reasons, our squad is good enough to challenge for the playoffs...if we play the 4-4-2 pressing style Elvis began with, not this 5-3-2 bollocks. Don't claim SISU, Sixfields and Tim Fisher at me, on the field it's the manager, the tactics he employs and the players (who would perform if they were set up in a way that allowed them to)
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #614
2 easy games next. Sheffield utd and Barnsley. Two teams who play at home and have invested readily. 2 more losses I'm afraid.
 

junglej13

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #615
Formation and starting Swanson up front were main problems tonight. The amount of times we had 8 men behind the ball was ridiculous. We desperately need some pace in the side as well.
 

mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #616
I was praying we didn't equalise in case I had to sit through extra time.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #617
LJC_CCFC said:
It is one of the main reasons, our squad is good enough to challenge for the playoffs...if we play the 4-4-2 pressing style Elvis began with, not this 5-3-2 bollocks. Don't claim SISU, Sixfields and Tim Fisher at me, on the field it's the manager, the tactics he employs and the players (who would perform if they were set up in a way that allowed them to)
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No it's not. The playing squad isn't good enough and the whole club demotivated. We'll be lucky not to be relegated at this rate, let along push at the other end. Within two games; we'll have lost our first four games - mark my words; and it won't solely be due to the formation. It just won't
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #618
Chez78 said:
Can't argue the formation and tempo or the overall appearance of effort, if you've played though like most of us have how many times have you tried playing a different style and it's just not worked?? . Like I said if he doesn't learn from this and change it back I'll be one of the first to voice my frustration but two games in is daft.

As for the signings you can't tell me if he was given 1.25mil of the Wilson money he would of still assembled the same squad I'm just not having that, yes they are his signings but are they really what he wanted?
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It's not mid season and hes changed formation, hes had all pre-season to work on it, granted, I understand what you mean.

It doesn't matter if they weren't his first choice, he has a budget and he has to work within that, these are his signings, some from a higher level. He's said he signed Swanson & O'Brien to play on the wings, our current formation doesn't allow that, he has signed the wrong players for the formation he wants to play. Even then, if we were to play with wingers in a 442 then we still lack a target man.

IMO Tudguy and Pugh should never have been signed. It's like someone has offered him these players, hasn't really thought it through and is now adjusting to fit these in.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #619
It's fine lines in football so excuse me if I don't join in the misery. We're potentially a player or two or a tweak in system from being a good side at this level.
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #620
CCFC said:
It's fine lines in football so excuse me if I don't join in the misery. We're potentially a player or two or a tweak in system from being a good side at this level.
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is that the first 60 mins of 19% possession or the final 30 mins when we had a couple of shots on goal?
 
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logjoe

New Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #621
Chez78 said:
Fucking hell listen to us all!!!! What on gods earth did we expect?? We've sold or released all our best players, replaced them without just about anyone who was desperate enough to join us, filled the rest of the gap with young lads who are either not ready or not good enough and we expect to beat a team that was playing premier league football last year. I've got no problem with all this say ten games in if it's still this shit, but both our two games we've played i expected to loose (hopeful of a draw at Bradford). We're flat broke playing in front of 1500 fans and we're all,pissed off with it, turning on the players and gaffer who are making the best of a god awful situation not caused by them is not the answer.
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Could not agree more
 

LJC_CCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #622
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
No it's not. The playing squad isn't good enough and the whole club demotivated. We'll be lucky not to be relegated at this rate, let along push at the other end. Within two games; we'll have lost our first four games - mark my words; and it won't solely be due to the formation. It just won't
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Did you watch the game?
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #623
LJC_CCFC said:
Did you watch the game?
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Yes. Did you?
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #624
LJC_CCFC said:
Did you watch the game?
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if only you were our manager.
 
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Buster

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #625
Is the formation the reason we couldn't pass the ball and kept losing posession
How can Presley say we were playing with to much fear of them , looked to me like they were told to drop off . They certainly didn't press
 
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skybluetoon

New Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #626
Kingokings204 said:
I'm really sorry in advance but if you are one of the 993 who went tonight. Congratulations you are helping killing our club. I don't care about what they say about supporting the lads etc. They are part of the problem with getting back to the Ricoh. They don't see it. They still blame the council and like the cheap tickets.
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I didn't go tonight but I have purchased a season ticket for this season (and had one last season.)

For me, it has nothing to do with cheap tickets or blaming the council or supporting sisu. It is all about supporting the team. I thought long and hard about whether to renew my ticket and it was a very difficult decision to make. I hate this as much as everyone who chooses not to go, and I very much "do see it". To suggest otherwise is just plain wrong.
 

LJC_CCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #627
Noggin said:
if only you were our manager.
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It really doesn't take a genius to realise how much the formation is restricting the team
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #628
Noggin said:
if only you were our manager.
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If he's cheap, next week, he might be!
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #629
My biggest complaint is why oh why can't Jordan Willis play a forward pass.

Anytime he had procession of the ball the first thing eh thought was to pass the ball 20/30 yards back, he was so counter productive.

I love Ryan Haynes though, he could go far, probably not with us
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2014
  • #630
LJC_CCFC said:
It really doesn't take a genius to realise how much the formation is restricting the team
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if - man for man - we're not as good as our peers; we'll lose irrespective of formation
 
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