Fisher is laughing at all of us, it's all one bad joke to SISU.
Some are just willing to pay to be mocked, most aren't.
Ok. so you misinterpreted my politeness for patronising.. not meant sorry, does that clear the craw?.
I guess well have to agree to disagree about the navigation around life's metaphorical moral compass and how to find true North?
Incidentally I am a confirmed atheist and so 'holier than thou' is somewhat of an own goal perhaps?
I've read this quite a few times.....can you clarify G for us please, I cannot make sense of it?
I missed one word out - despite you and Tony scuttling round the issue you know exactly what I am saying.
Let's try again. Do you think the suffragette movement benefited from its high profile protests inside ascot or do you think they would have been more successful sitting quietly on a hill outside or perhaps at home?
The notion someone will not enter a ground on moral issues when they seek to change a situation they are not happy with is nonsense.
The reality, which I suspect you and Tony are trying to avoid addressing, is that if there was a protest inside the ground there would be apathy. The hill people do not protest - they watch the game and numbers generally are small.
My belief is if several thousand protestors would enter the ground and protest on a consistent basis it would eventually have an impact. To refuse to do so as it gives money to the owners is. Kop out. You either do not have faith in the protest or believe insufficient would bother to attend.
I missed one word out - despite you and Tony scuttling round the issue you know exactly what I am saying.
Let's try again. Do you think the suffragette movement benefited from its high profile protests inside ascot or do you think they would have been more successful sitting quietly on a hill outside or perhaps at home?
The notion someone will not enter a ground on moral issues when they seek to change a situation they are not happy with is nonsense.
The reality, which I suspect you and Tony are trying to avoid addressing, is that if there was a protest inside the ground there would be apathy. The hill people do not protest - they watch the game and numbers generally are small.
My belief is if several thousand protestors would enter the ground and protest on a consistent basis it would eventually have an impact. To refuse to do so as it gives money to the owners is. Kop out. You either do not have faith in the protest or believe insufficient would bother to attend.
I didn't realise that the suffragettes were protesting about horse racing I always thought it was about the rights of women to vote? Still you learn something new everyday. .
In answer to your question. Not paying to go in is a protest. Standing on the hill is a protest. Going only to away games is a protest. Signing the KCIC epetition is a protest. Going to arsenal and holding up why and when posters is a protest and all these protest have gained media attention both locally and nationally and occasionally even further a field. To suggest that these protests are not being noticed by our owners is a nonsense, so they are directly in there face.So how can you measure the success and effectiveness of these protests? Are we any nearer to a return home or not? If not I would suggest the protests are not effective and a new course of action is required.
. Signing the KCIC epetition is a protest.Given that Fisher signed this what is this a protest against?
To pay to go into sixfields and sit there all nice and quiet like good little sisu boys (I would say and girls but the girls at least had the balls to do something while they were there on a couple of occasions last season) is defeatist. You may as well stop supporting CCFC and start following NTFC now because you're lack of anything is only sending out the message that you're happy to be there
This is a typically emotive and ill-advised statement. To suggest these supporters should support another team is absurd especially as you praise other people who stand on the hill to watch the same team. The reality, though you will never accept it, is that the regular attendees are keeping the club going by retaining an association with the City they represent. Rather than ridicule them with a childish snipe you should acknowledge the efforts they are making to support the team in adversity and ignorance.
I'll continual to do my protest either from the Hill or by not going at all. You keep doing what you've been doing, nothing, except judge and dismiss those who care enough to say enough is enough.So all you are interested in is appearing to be with the majority patting themselves on the back that they are “doing something” but achieving nothing.
Just further proof that you are happy with SISU's actions. You don't even like the city of Coventry, I really don't understand what qualifies you to still be classed as a supporter.
No proof presented at all. I was unaware one had to like the City of the club they support. This again is an absurd “Little Englander” type of mentality. Your leader has taught you well.
My belief is if several thousand protestors would enter the ground and protest on a consistent basis it would eventually have an impact. To refuse to do so as it gives money to the owners is. Kop out. You either do not have faith in the protest or believe insufficient would bother to attend.
Seriously? That's your belief?
Yet 0 fans would make no difference you claim?
The protest at Arsenal made you difference you claimed?
In fact you've been scornful of every single protest suggested, but suddenly you think one inside Sixfields will bring us home, just as it happens to be a useful argument to bash your fellow fans with, what a surprise.
Indeed you do. The reason was to protest in front of the Royal Box as they were considered the establishment and Emily Davison through herself in front of the King’s Horse. The comparison therefore is completely relevant.
In answer to your question. Not paying to go in is a protest. Standing on the hill is a protest. Going only to away games is a protest. Signing the KCIC epetition is a protest. Going to arsenal and holding up why and when posters is a protest and all these protest have gained media attention both locally and nationally and occasionally even further a field. To suggest that these protests are not being noticed by our owners is a nonsense, so they are directly in there face.So how can you measure the success and effectiveness of these protests? Are we any nearer to a return home or not? If not I would suggest the protests are not effective and a new course of action is required.
. Signing the KCIC epetition is a protest.Given that Fisher signed this what is this a protest against?
This is a typically emotive and ill-advised statement. To suggest these supporters should support another team is absurd especially as you praise other people who stand on the hill to watch the same team. The reality, though you will never accept it, is that the regular attendees are keeping the club going by retaining an association with the City they represent. Rather than ridicule them with a childish snipe you should acknowledge the efforts they are making to support the team in adversity and ignorance.
I'll continual to do my protest either from the Hill or by not going at all. You keep doing what you've been doing, nothing, except judge and dismiss those who care enough to say enough is enough.So all you are interested in is appearing to be with the majority patting themselves on the back that they are “doing something” but achieving nothing.
No proof presented at all. I was unaware one had to like the City of the club they support. This again is an absurd “Little Englander” type of mentality. Your leader has taught you well.
Perhaps next time Joy makes a court appearance you could throw yourself of the top of a lamppost and impale yourself on her umbrella. That will show her, we'll be back to the Ricoh in no time.
How do you ever measure the success of protest really. You do it because you believe it's the right thing to do. It's like being told you're wasting your vote by voting for the green party or any of the other minority parties because they'll never win the general election. The reality is if enough people vote for minority parties the major parties take note and change/adapt policy to try and win them votes. Is that not a success for the voter?
Fisher said he signed it because PWKH and others who SISU like to blame for the failings of the club had said they'd signed it. Only an idiot would think otherwise.
The people watching from the hill is a protest. I don't see why you fail to grasp that. I never suggested anyone should support another team l said that they might as well. To suggest that those inside is keeping a link between the club and it's city is an emotive ill advised statement as they are gainfully promoting the abandonment of said city. Rather than ridicule those trying to regain that link with a childish snipe you should acknowledge the effort they've made. Have you ever once praised Michael for keeping our plight in the public eye?
All I'm interested in is seeing the club get home and the sooner the better. All you're interested in is trying to be different. Presumably you've never got the attention that you feel you deserve and being different is your only chance of getting that attention.
"Little Englander" a typical childish snipe I expect from you. "My leader has ttaught me well" another typical childish snipe that I've come to expect from you. But I'll entertain you with this one. Exactly who is my leader supposed to be?
and what is "something everybody can do" exactly then? Another pointless March round the town?
The time has come for a bit more direct action in the ground - no other option now. Fisher just laughs at those on the hill.
You can be an athiest and be holier than thou old fruit - as you prove with every faux intellectual, cod philosophy, post of yours.
I missed one word out - despite you and Tony scuttling round the issue you know exactly what I am saying.
Let's try again. Do you think the suffragette movement benefited from its high profile protests inside ascot or do you think they would have been more successful sitting quietly on a hill outside or perhaps at home?
The notion someone will not enter a ground on moral issues when they seek to change a situation they are not happy with is nonsense.
The reality, which I suspect you and Tony are trying to avoid addressing, is that if there was a protest inside the ground there would be apathy. The hill people do not protest - they watch the game and numbers generally are small.
My belief is if several thousand protestors would enter the ground and protest on a consistent basis it would eventually have an impact. To refuse to do so as it gives money to the owners is. Kop out. You either do not have faith in the protest or believe insufficient would bother to attend.
There is no moral debate here.
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