Can we get to 50 points (5 Viewers)

Mucca Mad Boys

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The games until Feb are difficult


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All games this league have some difficulty. Leicester and Millwall at home should be 4 points and our away games v Norwich and QPR are towards the weaker end of the spectrum.

If we’re top after Blues away, all bets are off. Looking at Opta, we’re past 90% likelihood of promotion. That’s mental.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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All games this league have some difficulty. Leicester and Millwall at home should be 4 points and our away games v Norwich and QPR are towards the weaker end of the spectrum.

If we’re top after Blues away, all bets are off. Looking at Opta, we’re past 90% likelihood of promotion. That’s mental.
95 plus
Least at the moment games are against teams below us in the league
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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95 plus
Least at the moment games are against teams below us in the league
The next 3 away games will tell us a lot; Ipswich, PNE and Southampton. Ipswich and Southampton are on the turn and will start to pull themselves up the table.

If this year isn’t the year we win at Deepdale…
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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We could, but that assumes we Charlton and Bristol City. The fixtures after the November international break are a gauntlet and so far, so good. Conceding 4 goals is a slight worry atm.
Some bad habits defensively have creeped back in but I think that’s connected to tiredness on the part of a few players.
 

SBAndy

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I had a target in mind of 48 points by halfway. Now leaves us needing 8 from our next 6 which you’d imagine is eminently doable. In fact, probably be quite disappointed with that return now!
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Some bad habits defensively have creeped back in but I think that’s connected to tiredness on the part of a few players.
Has it? Thomas scored a dumb own goal for the leveller.

Other than that, we let Boro have 1 big chance and they 2 shots on target. The second half v WBA and the whole of the Boro games were good defensive performances.

Lampard seems to have shrugged off the OG as a mistake ‘it happens’.

KKH WB and MVE RCB is something we’ll see more I think. Kitching and MVE as overlapping CBs was v effective.
 

Viktor17

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Has it? Thomas scored a dumb own goal for the leveller.

Other than that, we let Boro have 1 big chance and they 2 shots on target. The second half v WBA and the whole of the Boro games were good defensive performances.

Lampard seems to have shrugged off the OG as a mistake ‘it happens’.

KKH WB and MVE RCB is something we’ll see more I think. Kitching and MVE as overlapping CBs was v effective.
Last night we defended our box superbly.

for all pressure, they had a long shot, well saved and a sitter. Rushworth didn’t make a save (think deflection in 1st half)

Think we are being harsh saying we were bad defensively, errors crept in.

also we are now everything we don’t do last year defensively , we react, we block, we die to keep the ball out - hungry for it - love it.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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Last night we defended our box superbly.

for all pressure, they had a long shot, well saved and a sitter. Rushworth didn’t make a save (think deflection in 1st half)

Think we are being harsh saying we were bad defensively, errors crept in.

also we are now everything we don’t do last year defensively , we react, we block, we die to keep the ball out - hungry for it - love it.

He made probably the save of the game to keep a Whittaker shot from distance from burying itself in the top corner?
 

SBAndy

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Last night we defended our box superbly.

for all pressure, they had a long shot, well saved and a sitter. Rushworth didn’t make a save (think deflection in 1st half)

Think we are being harsh saying we were bad defensively, errors crept in.

also we are now everything we don’t do last year defensively , we react, we block, we die to keep the ball out - hungry for it - love it.

We defended the box well, but they seemed to get in behind us far too much for my liking - admittedly that was in part down to them playing well and playing quickly.

Feels a little bit “the ends justify the means”.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Last night we defended our box superbly.

for all pressure, they had a long shot, well saved and a sitter. Rushworth didn’t make a save (think deflection in 1st half)

Think we are being harsh saying we were bad defensively, errors crept in.

also we are now everything we don’t do last year defensively , we react, we block, we die to keep the ball out - hungry for it - love it.
I agree and 2 shots on target says it all. Teams are going to have chances and ultimately, the important markers is how many chances did they make? They had 1 half chance that they scored, a big chance they missed. Conway’s chance was huge and good move from Boro and similar patterns to how we’ve scored a few goals. Their only shot on target in the 2nd half was a 0.01 xG shot that Rushworth saved.

By any metric, we were the team that carried the more potent attacking threat. More shots, more shots on target, higher xG and most importantly, more goals. By contrast, they had more possession, corners and touches in the box… so nothing.

We were clinical and showed them why we’re top of the league.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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Has it? Thomas scored a dumb own goal for the leveller.

Other than that, we let Boro have 1 big chance and they 2 shots on target. The second half v WBA and the whole of the Boro games were good defensive performances.

Lampard seems to have shrugged off the OG as a mistake ‘it happens’.

KKH WB and MVE RCB is something we’ll see more I think. Kitching and MVE as overlapping CBs was v effective.

Hmm there's things to look back at and improve upon. Just reeling off numbers doesn't really give insight into much.

Both goals West Brom scored were far too similar and should've been dealt with. Dasilva was caught in possession for the first. Positionally the back line was dragged all over the place for the second. Kitching lost his man for both and didn't track back quick enough. It's worth noting that the red card did change the game massively and any kind of attacking impetus was stifled from that point.

I don't think either MVE or Dasilva covered themselves in much glory last night, although Dasilva was probably the better of the two as he grew into the game especially in the latter stages. MVE gave the ball away several times and looking back he let the cross come into the box which led to Whittaker's goal far too easily. I'm sure it was him that did a near horror back pass as well - unless it was KKH. A lot of Boro's pressure seemed to come from us turning over over the ball pretty cheaply.

JDS got caught in behind a couple of times - one of which led to the Conway chance that should've been a goal. Although it was a good ball in all fairness to him. At a second glance of the highlights this morning he probably should've closed down Whittaker quicker for the long range strike as well which was heading top corner.

The OG was a mistake, and it can be down to that in isolation as these things do happen. Although it was a lapse in concentration that bought them back into the game so it can't be totally chalked off.

The midfield in the defensive transition wasn't great. Hackney and Morris before he went off regularly got in between the midfield and defence which the back line dealt with, but it was frustrating to watch all the same and could've caused us issues.
 
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JSL

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Wasnt it Dasilva who let the cross get put in for Whittaker's goal? He got wrong footed and slipped.
 

blunted

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Hmm there's things to look back at and improve upon. Just reeling off numbers doesn't really give insight into much.

Both goals West Brom scored were far too similar and should've been dealt with. Dasilva was caught in possession for the first. Positionally the back line was dragged all over the place for the second. Kitching lost his man for both and didn't track back quick enough. It's worth noting that the red card did change the game massively and any kind of attacking impetus was stifled from that point.

I don't think either MVE or Dasilva covered themselves in much glory last night, although Dasilva was probably the better of the two as he grew into the game especially in the latter stages. MVE gave the ball away several times and looking back he let the cross come into the box which led to Whittaker's goal far too easily. I'm sure it was him that did a near horror back pass as well - unless it was KKH. A lot of Boro's pressure seemed to come from us turning over over the ball pretty cheaply.

JDS got caught in behind a couple of times - one of which led to the Conway chance that should've been a goal. Although it was a good ball in all fairness to him. At a second glance of the highlights this morning he probably should've closed down Whittaker quicker for the long range strike as well which was heading top corner.

The OG was a mistake, and it can be down to that in isolation as these things do happen. Although it was a lapse in concentration that bought them back into the game so it can't be totally chalked off.

The midfield in the defensive transition wasn't great. Hackney and Morris before he went off regularly got in between the midfield and defence which the back line dealt with, but it was frustrating to watch all the same and could've caused us issues.
This is a repeat ad nauseum of all our games and to criticise our full backs is to ignore the bleedin' obvious. That is the way we play. Teams will always expose our flanks as our full backs are high up the pitch and we try to get offside decisions. We create chances but give the opposition space down the sides. That is not going to change, unless the manager changes and we get back to our full backs and wingers doubling up on the opposition attackers, and er attacking less.
MVE had one of his less than brilliant games last night and slipped for their first goal, which is down to him.
JDS was fine last night with some brilliant football to get us out of a hole especially in the second half, retaining possession.
Perhaps a deconstruction of the Wrexham game where a fullbacks were exposed will give a better reflection of the worth of MVE and JDS. If we get a post every time a ball goes over the top behind them (which we do), it is going to be a very repetitive season.
 

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