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clint van damme

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  • Jun 22, 2024
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covcity4life said:
Harry kane cost Bayern the bundesliga mate didn't you know?
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Thats probably true, he's a fucking jinx!
 
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lewys33

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  • Jun 22, 2024
  • #2,277
Grendel won that one sorry … I don’t make the rules

GG though, “we go again”.
 

Sandgroper Skybluel

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,278
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
This is another Sheaf myth.

During our onslaught to the playoffs, Sheaf was injured for most of it and didn't play. The majority of the games he was out actually coincided with our good form. This was, as you say, also alongside COH being out of the team and Hamer getting further forward, providing a better level of end product.

In the last two seasons our best form has come around a lot when both of the players I have mentioned have been out of the team.
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He was was brilliant in the away leg against boro, so please don't make out he wasn't a massive part of nearly making it to the Prem. We had some flukey results on the run in, our best team definitely had Sheaf in it that season.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,279
Sick Boy said:
Hamer strung the club along and told people he’d be signing a new contract but had no intention to. That’s why he gets the digs from multiple posters on here.
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Robins came out and said that Hamer told Robins on the bus on the way home from Wembley he wanted to leave after they didn’t go up


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Deity

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  • Jun 23, 2024
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Skybluedownunder said:
Robins came out and said that Hamer told Robins on the bus on the way home from Wembley he wanted to leave after they didn’t go up


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I think Robins was frustrated because Vik made it clear he wanted to leave and his position never changed whilst Hamer was less definitive and gave Robins hope he might be persuaded to stay.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,281
CO has taken the gamble of touting himself around rather than the security of a further contract, as a player its his choice to be advised that its the way to go about things. Folk on here need to forget the cult hero status and look at the facts, for the last 6 months he couldnt regularly get in the side, whether that was on form or by design is conjecture. The baffling thing for me is if its not for a better team in a higher league its not for footballing reasons, why they choose to be small fish in a big pond and not play regularly the game they love is stupid. I love the kid but i think hes reached his ceiling as far as development goes due to his style of play. Hope he gets what his agent thinks hes worth but the grass is just a different shade of green on the other side of the fence.
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,282
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
CO has taken the gamble of touting himself around rather than the security of a further contract, as a player its his choice to be advised that its the way to go about things. Folk on here need to forget the cult hero status and look at the facts, for the last 6 months he couldnt regularly get in the side, whether that was on form or by design is conjecture. The baffling thing for me is if its not for a better team in a higher league its not for footballing reasons, why they choose to be small fish in a big pond and not play regularly the game they love is stupid. I love the kid but i think hes reached his ceiling as far as development goes due to his style of play. Hope he gets what his agent thinks hes worth but the grass is just a different shade of green on the other side of the fence.
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I think his agent might be thinking about the % of the signing on bonus he can get for himself in all of this! COH is loved here and it would be a shame to see him go but if he is more motivated by the extra 10k a week which after tax becomes 5k then perhaps it's best for all parties that he moves on. Still hope he signs our deal though.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,283
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
CO has taken the gamble of touting himself around rather than the security of a further contract, as a player its his choice to be advised that its the way to go about things. Folk on here need to forget the cult hero status and look at the facts, for the last 6 months he couldnt regularly get in the side, whether that was on form or by design is conjecture. The baffling thing for me is if its not for a better team in a higher league its not for footballing reasons, why they choose to be small fish in a big pond and not play regularly the game they love is stupid. I love the kid but i think hes reached his ceiling as far as development goes due to his style of play. Hope he gets what his agent thinks hes worth but the grass is just a different shade of green on the other side of the fence.
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It’s pretty much always worth running out your contract if you’re in the last year. You can then negotiate to pocket a load of the money that would have otherwise been spent on a fee. See Mbappe.

Obviously comes with the not insignificant risk of injury but that’s the decision to be made.
 
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skybluericoh

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,284
Came on a free, leave on a free, did god for us while he was here, spells of greatness, spells of ordinary.
good level championship player , would do OK in the prem but would not be setting the world on fire. Deffo help is bank balance though.
I would love him to have signed but understand that to him it is a job and if he can get more elsewhere fair play to the led.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,285
Wish he’d just go now to be honest.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,286
Could he still sign? Would take the option of a striker away if so. With imagine this :

COH
EMC
WRIGHT
SAKAMOTO
PALMER
RUDONI
TORP

all interchangeable and attacking.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,287
Skybluedownunder said:
Robins came out and said that Hamer told Robins on the bus on the way home from Wembley he wanted to leave after they didn’t go up
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That's all well and good but when the player doesn't actually sign elsewhere it creates doubt.

Does anyone really think that in the unlikely scenario we get close to the deadline and COH doesn't have any decent offers and came back and said he wanted to sign we'd tell him to fuck off because he said he was leaving?
 

SBAndy

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,288
ccfc1234 said:
I think his agent might be thinking about the % of the signing on bonus he can get for himself in all of this! COH is loved here and it would be a shame to see him go but if he is more motivated by the extra 10k a week which after tax becomes 5k then perhaps it's best for all parties that he moves on. Still hope he signs our deal though.
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“Which after tax becomes 5k” let’s not pretend a quarter of a million quid a year is pocket money.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,289
Cally Fedora said:
Wish he’d just go now to be honest.
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There’s just the small matter of being under contract still.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,290
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
CO has taken the gamble of touting himself around rather than the security of a further contract, as a player its his choice to be advised that its the way to go about things. Folk on here need to forget the cult hero status and look at the facts, for the last 6 months he couldnt regularly get in the side, whether that was on form or by design is conjecture. The baffling thing for me is if its not for a better team in a higher league its not for footballing reasons, why they choose to be small fish in a big pond and not play regularly the game they love is stupid. I love the kid but i think hes reached his ceiling as far as development goes due to his style of play. Hope he gets what his agent thinks hes worth but the grass is just a different shade of green on the other side of the fence.
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Good post. OHare doesn't strike me as being the sharpest tool.in the box by any means. Nice set of teeth though.
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,291
SBAndy said:
“Which after tax becomes 5k” let’s not pretend a quarter of a million quid a year is pocket money.
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I am not saying it is pocket money but if the club he signs for is in London the extra 5k will be dwindled by living costs and extra travelling expenses.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,292
Cally Fedora said:
Wish he’d just go now to be honest.
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Only 7 more days to wait, then he's Contact is up then it will be announced where he gets his next payday.
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,293
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Only 7 more days to wait, then he's Contact is up then it will be announced where he gets his next payday.
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I still have a feeling he will stay , or is this just a wishful thinking by me
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,294
Covcraig@bury said:
I still have a feeling he will stay , or is this just a wishful thinking by me
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We wouldn’t have signed Rudoni if he was staying.
 
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Martw

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,295
AFCCOVENTRY said:
We wouldn’t have signed Rudoni if he was staying.
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Tend to agree with this sadly
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,296
Martw said:
Tend to agree with this sadly
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Let’s just see what pans out , I think he’s a home bird and his agent is a twat trying to get the best for himself. So until he signs for someone else he’s still with us
 

Mr Panda

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,297
I like Callum O’Hare and I think what was one of his best assets was his off the ball work (more so pre injury) and the one quality I was worried about replacing.

If these Twitter football scouts are to be believed it looks like we might have replaced that somewhat with Rudoni and that will give the quality we’ve brought in and already have the catalyst to shine
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #2,298
Don't really get any bitter sentiments towards O'Hare.

Came on a free, had some good years and now looks to be leaving on a free. After his loan season him signing was exactly what we needed. Felt like a bit of a boost at the time. He clearly enjoyed his time here. Such a shame he had his injury setbacks, imagine having him off the bench during our playoff campaign rather than Maguire!

I don't buy into him downing tools in the run in last season, I think things just caught up with him as it did with others. 26 is a crucial age in a footballers career, he and his agent will have set out what they want and if we aren't prepared to meet that then we move on. No sour grapes from me.

We'll see soon enough where he ends up, all club's that have been hinted at are big teams with better resources than us so good luck to him.

We have Rudoni who seems a like for like replacement, loads of energy, skill and work rate but lacking a bit in end product. Plus could be that he is much bigger which might help him physically.
 
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ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,299
shmmeee said:
These are the specific four words the psychiatrists report will identify as beginning of my slide into madness.

You. Can’t. Take. A. Team. Statistic. And. Apply. It. To. An. Individual.
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If we can’t rely on statistical data, then what do we utilise to ascertain an individual’s impact on a collective?

I’m not trying to be argumentative, honestly. If we dismiss evidence, then it becomes a battle of opinions.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,300
ProfessorbyGrace said:
If we can’t rely on statistical data, then what do we utilise to ascertain an individual’s impact on a collective?

I’m not trying to be argumentative, honestly. If we dismiss evidence, then it becomes a battle of opinions.
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Have all the evidence you want but have relevant evidence. A very rough stat like team win percentage isn’t a useful stat to judge a player. We know this because Philosoraptor build an ELO model doing just that and it ended up telling us some random kid was our best player and our best players were crap. There’s too many confounding variables.

That’s why we have stats like passes, tackles, etc because they are actually things a player can impact. You’re essentially blaming Sheaf for how 11 other players do in a non representative sample of games. Makes no sense.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,301
This isn't over yet.......
 
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JSL

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,302
Saddlebrains said:
This isn't over yet.......
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The almost radio silence over it made me think something might be lurking
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,303
Saddlebrains said:
This isn't over yet.......
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Has the penny finally dropped for that the grass isn’t always greener and we’re probably (still) the best place for him to meet his ambitions?
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,304
Saddlebrains said:
This isn't over yet.......
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do we need/want him now? Rudoni and Palmer is probably enough cover. obviously if we can sell Palmer then im in
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,305
Wow where does he fit into the grand scheme of things now then? Would it be a rotation with Rudoni and punt Palmer, or turn Rudoni into an 8. Very crazy, but happy.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,306
It's flip flopping everyday it seems and he's genuinely completely torn on what to do by all accounts.

He's genuinely in a head v heart quandary
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,307
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Covcraig@bury said:
Let’s just see what pans out , I think he’s a home bird and his agent is a twat trying to get the best for himself. So until he signs for someone else he’s still with us
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Isn't the agents job to try and get the best deal for his client and himself.?
 
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Martw

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,308
Saddlebrains said:
It's flip flopping everyday it seems and he's genuinely completely torn on what to do by all accounts.

He's genuinely in a head v heart quandary
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Keep him and flog Palmer
 
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skyblue025

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,309
Saddlebrains said:
It's flip flopping everyday it seems and he's genuinely completely torn on what to do by all accounts.

He's genuinely in a head v heart quandary
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Or the big offer hasn't materialised for him financially or league he would go into?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 25, 2024
  • #2,310
Saddlebrains said:
It's flip flopping everyday it seems and he's genuinely completely torn on what to do by all accounts.

He's genuinely in a head v heart quandary
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When do we expect to hear his decision?
 
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