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Sick Boy

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,716
covcity4life said:
Rewatched fa cup TV coverage yesterday and that o hare pass to wright in extra time!. Fuck we should have won on 3 different occasions.
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The whole move was excellent and makes those who claim Wright is lazy look like idiots.
 
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eyesee

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,717
Sick Boy said:
The whole move was excellent and makes those who claim Wright is lazy look like idiots.
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wright's not lazy, he's just laidback.
just 'cause he doesn't chase every lost cause doesn't make him lazy.
when he needs to he switches it on, usually to good effect.
 
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skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,718
pusbccfc said:
Why? O'Hare on a free is a brilliant bit of business for West Ham.
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Don't really see how a top 10 prem club signing a 26yo who's never played higher than the championship can be brilliant
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,719
If true, I can’t believe his head’s been turned from the Spain move that turned his head from staying with us. Truly there is no contract from which this man’s head will not be turned.

 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,720
skybluecam said:
Don't really see how a top 10 prem club signing a 26yo who's never played higher than the championship can be brilliant
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Especially as they have players better in his role and are looking at getting to the next level.

He's not as good as say Benrahma who they have shipped out
 
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skybluecam

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,721
David O'Day said:
Especially as they have players better in his role and are looking at getting to the next level.

He's not as good as say Benrahma who they have shipped out
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Exactly, I like O'hare, great player for us and would keep him if possible.

But there are plenty of players who excel in the championship and struggle to contribute for bottom half sides (see: Adam Armstrong etc). To expect a player who’s had a decent but not outstanding season to add anything to a side chasing European qualification is madness imo.
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,722
skybluecam said:
Don't really see how a top 10 prem club signing a 26yo who's never played higher than the championship can be brilliant
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Surely a fair few of prem players when they make their debut has played at a lesser standard - only the overseas named players have come from maybe a better standard - Gyok if he moves is exactly the same - lesser club - lesser league - doesn't mean it cannot be a brilliant signing, just depends on what the player goes on to achieve
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,723
skybluecam said:
Don't really see how a top 10 prem club signing a 26yo who's never played higher than the championship can be brilliant
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Mason-Clark will soon be 25 and has never played higher than League 1. Sorry if this triggers TomRad.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,724
Evo1883 said:
Good luck to him , was annoyed about his leaving and not signing but my god is his ability disrespected on here at times
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It was his attitude that was the problem. Turning it on for the first time in his City career when he needed a move then immediately turning it back off again. That and generally acting a bit billy big bollocks.
 
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pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,725
skybluecam said:
Don't really see how a top 10 prem club signing a 26yo who's never played higher than the championship can be brilliant
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Because teams like West Ham need depth. He's a cheap gamble.

It's easy to forget how good he is. In that period he came back, he was playing well above this level.
 
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skybluecam

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,726
Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
Surely a fair few of prem players when they make their debut has played at a lesser standard - only the overseas named players have come from maybe a better standard - Gyok if he moves is exactly the same - lesser club - lesser league - doesn't mean it cannot be a brilliant signing, just depends on what the player goes on to achieve
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Yes but Gyok is clearly the best player in the league.

Deleted member 9744 said:
Mason-Clark will soon be 25 and has never played higher than League 1. Sorry if this triggers TomRad.
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So he's 24. And has been one of the best players in the league, Cal hasn't.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,727
pusbccfc said:
Because teams like West Ham need depth. He's a cheap gamble.

It's easy to forget how good he is. In that period he came back, he was playing well above this level.
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He was nowhere near a top 10 premier league level.

He was more top end Championship.
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,728
skybluecam said:
Don't really see how a top 10 prem club signing a 26yo who's never played higher than the championship can be brilliant
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Jamie Vardy went from non league to the championship, to the Premier league to winning the Premier league!
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,729
skybluecam said:
Yes but Gyok is clearly the best player in the league.


So he's 24. And has been one of the best players in the league, Cal hasn't.
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He was for a period after he came back.
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,730
Nick said:
He was nowhere near a top 10 premier league level.

He was more top end Championship.
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West ham (or any other Premier league team) could sign him on a free, then sell him back to a championship side next season for 4 or 5 million.

If they pay him £40k a week (£2 million a year) they'll easily double their money without him even needing to kick a ball.
It's a financial win win situation!
 
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skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,731
fatso said:
West ham (or any other Premier league team) could sign him on a free, then sell him back to a championship side next season for 4 or 5 million.

If they pay him £40k a week (£2 million a year) they'll easily double their money without him even needing to kick a ball.
It's a financial win win situation!
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What championship team will match 40k a week (for 2/3 years) after he's sat on the bench for a year?
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,732
pusbccfc said:
Because teams like West Ham need depth. He's a cheap gamble.

It's easy to forget how good he is. In that period he came back, he was playing well above this level.
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They are spending 25 million quid on a Brazilian who can play 10 or left or right.

They are shopping above that level
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,733
fatso said:
Jamie Vardy went from non league to the championship, to the Premier league to winning the Premier league!
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O'Hare isn't as good as him
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,734
skybluecam said:
What championship team will match 40k a week (for 2/3 years) after he's sat on the bench for a year?
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Any championship team getting parachute payments. Or any championship club selling players to the Premiership, or rich foreign clubs for big money. Or any championship club with rich backers.

£40k a week is £2 million a year, if you sell a Gyokeres type for £20 million your laughing.
We could sell Sheaf for £10 million and afford to pay a player £40k a week plus £4million transfer fee. Over a 3 year contract we've spent nothing (effectively) and could even make a profit if we sell after 2 years.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,735
fatso said:
Any championship team getting parachute payments. Or any championship club selling players to the Premiership, or rich foreign clubs for big money. Or any championship club with rich backers.

£40k a week is £2 million a year, if you sell a Gyokeres type for £20 million your laughing.
We could sell Sheaf for £10 million and afford to pay a player £40k a week plus £4million transfer fee. Over a 3 year contract we've spent nothing (effectively) and could even make a profit if we sell after 2 years.
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No one in the championship is going to pay him 40k a week, he'll end up staying at West Ham the whole of his contract then leaving on a free if that happened.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,736
David O'Day said:
They are spending 25 million quid on a Brazilian who can play 10 or left or right.

They are shopping above that level
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They will be getting O'Hare on a free. If their expensive midfielders get injured, he's a good player to step in.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,737
Nick said:
He was nowhere near a top 10 premier league level.

He was more top end Championship.
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No, but he's good enough to play backup figure at West Ham.

For O'Hare, it's a gamble. He could play no more than 10 games next season. However, he's a confident lad who works very hard. Hell be keen to push for a spot.
 
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skybluecam

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,738
I'll chuck £20 in the ST fund if he signs for West Ham
 
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eyesee

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,739
can't argue with the lure of some serious cashola in the bank, but COH is a talented player. he's gonna want to play, surely.
it's a short enough career as it is.
 
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,740
David O'Day said:
No one in the championship is going to pay him 40k a week, he'll end up staying at West Ham the whole of his contract then leaving on a free if that happened.
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£40k a week wouldn't even get him near the top wages payed to championship players THIS season, never mind 2 seasons time.

If you've got parachute payments you could easily pay £40k. Southampton were paying Ward-Prowse £100k a week, and over £40k to a number of others, Leicester were paying over £80k a week to a number of their players. Leeds were paying Jack Harrison £100k a week and others £50k+

We are near the bottom of the Championship for squad budgets, and yet are supposedly paying our top earners £25k a week.
 
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skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,741
fatso said:
£40k a week wouldn't even get him near the top wages payed to championship players THIS season, never mind 2 seasons time.

If you've got parachute payments you could easily pay £40k. Southampton were paying Ward-Prowse £100k a week, and over £40k to a number of others, Leicester were paying over £80k a week to a number of their players. Leeds were paying Jack Harrison £100k a week and others £50k+

We are near the bottom of the Championship for squad budgets, and yet are supposedly paying our top earners £25k a week.
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JWP and Harrison left?
 

fatso

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,742
skybluecam said:
JWP and Harrison left?
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For Premier league football, but their contracts were valid after relegation.

Vardy (like many others at Leicester) played in the Champuonship on £80k+

Leicester are paying Daka £75k a week and he only played half a season.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,743
pusbccfc said:
They will be getting O'Hare on a free. If their expensive midfielders get injured, he's a good player to step in.
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No, he's not at the level they want as a back up. He is not good enough to step in at a PL team who wants to be chasing Europe.

Sorry but it's delusional to think he is.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,744
skybluecam said:
Don't really see how a top 10 prem club signing a 26yo who's never played higher than the championship can be brilliant
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Because he's English and free
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,745
fernandopartridge said:
Because he's English and free
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And not good enough for the level they aim to be at.

They also have a load of promising young English players coming through their academy.

You can say they want as "depth" but the drop in ability from their first team squad to O'Hare is massive.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,746
Deleted member 9744 said:
Mason-Clark will soon be 25 and has never played higher than League 1. Sorry if this triggers TomRad.
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No triggering me. I like O'Hare and I think EMC will make a few on here look like absolute chumps.

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TomRad85

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  • May 31, 2024
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I think I've said it before on here that I think some on here talk about even the most bog standard of Premier League players as if they are super human. Loads of Wolves players I thought looked very average against us and obviously even some players at Man Utd. Think O'Hare could do ok in the Prem... not spectacular, but fine.

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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 31, 2024
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TomRad85 said:
No triggering me. I like O'Hare and I think EMC will make a few on here look like absolute chumps.

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Who will he make look like a chump? I don’t think anyone has said they don't rate him. For my part I haven’t seen him play. I was just stating a fact which you seem to think means I don't rate him. I was just rebutting the view that Wright is somehow going to be left out of the team because we bought Mason-Clark.
 

TomRad85

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,749
Deleted member 9744 said:
Who will he make look like a chump? I don’t think anyone has said they don't rate him. For my part I haven’t seen him play. I was just stating a fact which you seem to think means I don't rate him.
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Well we've been here before haven't we.. what was your point exactly?

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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 31, 2024
  • #1,750
TomRad85 said:
Well we've been here before haven't we.. what was your point exactly?

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That it's unlikely that Wright won't start the season because we bought Mason-Clark. I thought I was quite clear.
 
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