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procdoc

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  • May 12, 2024
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Guys this is GIMOC, Fred West has a better reputation
 
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fatso

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,612
messiahrobins said:
He is going to West Ham apparently although i think he may end up back at Villa although if he did he would be a squad player nothing more.
No way he stays here UNLESS he has been told about our recruitment plans and has been told Sheaf is staying and has come to the conclusion he will be in the PL with us season after next. I find the latter bit totally unrealistic, so he is gone.
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So basically your clueless then!
 

Mcbean

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,613
Sick Boy said:
Going to play in the SPL would be a step backwards.
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But in terms of money probably ok
 

Gint11

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,614
Wages aside, moving to the SPL from the Premier League and the Championship is a step back for me.

The SPL is a shite league and standard, let’s be honest.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 12, 2024
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Gint11 said:
Wages aside, moving to the SPL from the Premier League and the Championship is a step back for me.

The SPL is a shite league and standard, let’s be honest.
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If he moves to the SPL I think that's a fairly strong indicator that no offers from the EPL were incoming.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 12, 2024
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If he goes to Celtic then hes a shithouse, absolute pub standard
 
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JoeCCFCPUSB

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,617
He aint coming back. He earns about 10 grand a week here, that just under 300k a year after tax. If he leaves he will be on triple that at a West Ham, Leeds, Leicester CIty etc. We can't and won't break the bank wages wise for Callum O'Hare.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,618
Saddlebrains said:
If he goes to Celtic then hes a shithouse, absolute pub standard
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Both Rangers and Celtic are far bigger than any club at our level and he'll get to play in Europe.

Standard is woeful generally though.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,619
Saddlebrains said:
If he goes to Celtic then hes a shithouse, absolute pub standard
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It could be a good move to put himself in the shop window if no Prem interest materialises.

I’m over it to be honest, if he doesn’t re-sign, there’s an opportunity to get another player in. Someone like Rudoni will probably be a better player than COH is when he’s 26.
 
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Gint11

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,620
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It could be a good move to put himself in the shop window if no Prem interest materialises.

I’m over it to be honest, if he doesn’t re-sign, there’s an opportunity to get another player in. Someone like Rudoni will probably be a better player than COH is when he’s 26.
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Nah. At 25 it shouldn’t be about shop windows. If he leaves us for Celtic his agent needs sacking. Might get him more £££ but footballing standard and pedigree is a shambles.

Celtic and rangers in recent times are rubbish in Europe (apart from the year rangers won it) and then it’s back to the pub league. Massive clubs but that’s all it is.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,621
Going to Scotland at 26 is an admission your career isn’t going as planned.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • May 12, 2024
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Agree with that in terms of football terms. But a significant increase in your wage doesn’t indicate that. Don’t know why anyone really cares where he goes to be honest. Once it was clear it wasn’t going to be here I’d lost interest
 

clint van damme

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,623
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It could be a good move to put himself in the shop window if no Prem interest materialises.

I’m over it to be honest, if he doesn’t re-sign, there’s an opportunity to get another player in. Someone like Rudoni will probably be a better player than COH is when he’s 26.
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The SPL has been a good shop window for lots of top players, but given he already plays in England and is already mid 20s I don't think it really applies in his situation.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,624
Cally Fedora said:
Agree with that in terms of football terms. But a significant increase in your wage doesn’t indicate that. Don’t know why anyone really cares where he goes to be honest. Once it was clear it wasn’t going to be here I’d lost interest
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I agree, though would be a bit disappointed if he stayed in the championship
 

Diogenes

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,625
I'd be very surprised if he chooses to go to celtic. This is his big move at the prime of his career. As great a club Celtic is and guaranteed to win silverware, he would be playing on easy mode against mediocre opposition every week.

From the excitement of the championship, how fulfilling really would be playing in front of 4K at Livingston or at Johnston be?

This would have been a great move for him 5 years ago, but at this stage of his career this is surely a 2nd or 3rd preference for him.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,626
Gint11 said:
Nah. At 25 it shouldn’t be about shop windows. If he leaves us for Celtic his agent needs sacking. Might get him more £££ but footballing standard and pedigree is a shambles.

Celtic and rangers in recent times are rubbish in Europe (apart from the year rangers won it) and then it’s back to the pub league. Massive clubs but that’s all it is.
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clint van damme said:
The SPL has been a good shop window for lots of top players, but given he already plays in England and is already mid 20s I don't think it really applies in his situation.
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Fair enough, he can do what he wants. Personally, I don’t think he’s getting guaranteed football at any Prem or even top Championship teams (relegated teams + Southampton, Leeds or even Norwich).

We’ll see where he ends up and if he does a dramatic U-turn it’s also a sign his offers aren’t all that.

Good luck Cal.
 

GIMOC

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,627
the Scottish league is no different to the Portuguese league. sub standard football and same teams up the top. this would be no different to Vik going sporting
 

Saddlebrains

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,628
GIMOC said:
the Scottish league is no different to the Portuguese league. sub standard football and same teams up the top. this would be no different to Vik going sporting
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Id argue Sporting, Benfica and Porto are at a much higher level than Celtic Rangers and Aberdeen
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,629
Saddlebrains said:
Id argue Sporting, Benfica and Porto are at a much higher level than Celtic Rangers and Aberdeen
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If Vik had gone to Celtic not Sporting there would be no way teams would be quoted £85m for him this summer.

he would have gone for £30m max.
 
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GIMOC

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,630
Saddlebrains said:
Id argue Sporting, Benfica and Porto are at a much higher level than Celtic Rangers and Aberdeen
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more in reference to the league standard

Portuguese league no different to Scottish. some grounds hold as little as 3,000
 

Saddlebrains

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,631
Ccfcisparks said:
If Vik had gone to Celtic not Sporting there would be no way teams would be quoted £85m for him this summer.

he would have gone for £30m max.
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Agreed. The portugese league is a much better standard of football than Scotland without a shadow of a doubt
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,632
GIMOC said:
more in reference to the league standard

Portuguese league no different to Scottish. some grounds hold as little as 3,000
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Oh i dunno, theres some lovely stadiums in Portugal mainly off the back of Euro 2004.
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,633
GIMOC said:
the Scottish league is no different to the Portuguese league. sub standard football and same teams up the top. this would be no different to Vik going sporting
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The Portuguese league is much better than the Scottish league. I know what you mean about the bottom end of it being terrible, difference is in Scotland the whole league is terrible.

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GIMOC

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  • May 12, 2024
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Ccfcisparks said:
If Vik had gone to Celtic not Sporting there would be no way teams would be quoted £85m for him this summer.

he would have gone for £30m max.
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agree but league standard not much different. some really poor teams in the Portuguese league and that’s why Vik could potentially stay another year at sporting
 

GIMOC

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,635
Saddlebrains said:
Oh i dunno, theres some lovely stadiums in Portugal mainly off the back of Euro 2004.
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there is but some league 2 standard grounds aswell
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,636
GIMOC said:
agree but league standard not much different. some really poor teams in the Portuguese league and that’s why Vik could potentially stay another year at sporting
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He’s done enough to earn a transfer already. No point staying an extra season.
 

GIMOC

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  • May 12, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
He’s done enough to earn a transfer already. No point staying an extra season.
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he might not want to. that’s why he chose sporting over the prem in the first place. he wanted to become sweden no 1 striker and he wouldn’t have done that being squad player.

we are all wishing he leaves but he may want another season at sporting in the champions league
 

TomRad85

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  • May 12, 2024
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GIMOC said:
he might not want to. that’s why he chose sporting over the prem in the first place. he wanted to become sweden no 1 striker and he wouldn’t have done that being squad player.

we are all wishing he leaves but he may want another season at sporting in the champions league
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Smart guy choosing a large-ish European club over a mediocre Premier League team. Who was looking at him? The likes of Everton and Wolves? I'd fuck off to Lisbon too. Now he's in the shop window of the really big English (and other European) teams. A shop window that Scottish football sure as shit wouldn't put you in either.

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GIMOC

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  • May 12, 2024
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TomRad85 said:
Smart guy choosing a large-ish European club over a mediocre Premier League team. Who was looking at him? The likes of Everton and Wolves? I'd fuck off to Lisbon too. Now he's in the shop window of the really big English (and other European) teams. A shop window that Scottish football sure as shit wouldn't put you in either.

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think we all agree Vik all round better player than ohare. hence why Celtic would suit ohare. Europe football, close to home and playing in a 60,000 ground

Hence why ohare choosing Celtic is similar to Vik going Portugal. very similar aspects
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 12, 2024
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GIMOC said:
think we all agree Vik all round better player than ohare. hence why Celtic would suit ohare. Europe football, close to home and playing in a 60,000 ground

Hence why ohare choosing Celtic is similar to Vik going Portugal. very similar aspects
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I don't think it's similar. For Vik it's a stepping stone, for Cal this move will be where he spends the best years of his career.

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GIMOC

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  • May 12, 2024
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TomRad85 said:
I don't think it's similar. For Vik it's a stepping stone, for Cal this move will be where he spends the best years of his career.

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Ohare isn’t good enough for a top prem team. he could be used as a squad player for mid to low prem team. Celtic play in Europe, he would be a regular and on more money than here.

same as Cantwell at Rangers
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 12, 2024
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GIMOC said:
Ohare isn’t good enough for a top prem team. he could be used as a squad player for mid to low prem team. Celtic play in Europe, he would be a regular and on more money than here.

same as Cantwell at Rangers
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Well I agree with you there. It's up to him whether he backs himself to be more than a squad player though isn't it... if he chooses Celtic he's admitting he doesn't.

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SBT

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #1,643
TomRad85 said:
Smart guy choosing a large-ish European club over a mediocre Premier League team. Who was looking at him? The likes of Everton and Wolves? I'd fuck off to Lisbon too. Now he's in the shop window of the really big English (and other European) teams. A shop window that Scottish football sure as shit wouldn't put you in either.

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I think there’s a fair amount of hindsight when it comes to evaluating Vik’s career path. He’s done brilliantly, but there’s nothing to say he wouldn’t have commanded just as much attention if he’d gone to a midtable PL team either.

I look at someone like Ndiaye who’s gone a similar route to Vik and his stock has plummeted, for example.
 

TomRad85

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  • May 12, 2024
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SBT said:
I think there’s a fair amount of hindsight when it comes to evaluating Vik’s career path. He’s done brilliantly, but there’s nothing to say he wouldn’t have commanded just as much attention if he’d gone to a midtable PL team either.

I look at someone like Ndiaye who’s gone a similar route to Vik and his stock has plummeted, for example.
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But I'm saying Sporting is a preferable move just generally to playing for some wanky mid table Prem club. I hate this thinking that everything is about the Prem... some clowns would have you believe Sporting to Brentford would be an upgrade.

Just for the record, the Scottish league has got so bad this no longer applies to them.

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SBT

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  • May 12, 2024
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TomRad85 said:
But I'm saying Sporting is a preferable move just generally to playing for some wanky mid table Prem club. I hate this thinking that everything is about the Prem... some clowns would have you believe Sporting to Brentford would be an upgrade.
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Maybe in terms of salary it would be! But generally I agree with you.
 
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