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mark82

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #596
I'm not sure why we can only like one or the other. They both play for City. Want them to both do well why they are here. O'Hare has had a decent stint with us, particularly on loan in league one and the year we came up, but we will move on - ultimately we've not had him for the vast majority of the last 2 years. He'll move on but not sure he'll play regularly at a much higher level. As has been rumoured, something abroad maybe his best bet.

Equally, Palmer is fine. Perfectly adequate player at this level. Can we find better? Probably. Do we need to cast him out? Absolutely not.
 
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Martin180

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #597
mark82 said:
I'm not sure why we can only like one or the other. They both play for City. Want them to both do well why they are here. O'Hare has had a decent stint with us, particularly on loan in league one and the year we came up, but we will move on - ultimately we've not had him for the vast majority of the last 2 years. He'll move on but not sure he'll play regularly at a much higher level. As has been rumoured, something abroad maybe his best bet.

Equally, Palmer is fine. Perfectly adequate player at this level. Can we find better? Probably. Do we need to cast him out? Absolutely not.
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Spot on
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #598
Grendel said:
We offered O Hare a new and improved contract to keep him - let’s see what Palmer gets offered having already had a reduction in pay this season
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When's his contract up? Wouldn't be surprised to see him offered a new one at some point. Don't imagine he'd be pushing top earners though.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #599
mark82 said:
When's his contract up? Wouldn't be surprised to see him offered a new one at some point. Don't imagine he'd be pushing top earners though.
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End of next season. Doubt we’d renew as I think we can get better
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #600
Brighton Sky Blue said:
End of next season. Doubt we’d renew as I think we can get better
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If we don't renew then may be worth seeing if we can sell this summer. Obviously won't get a huge fee, but imagine it wouldn't be insignificant either. Would almost certainly have Championship interest.
 
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Martin180

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #601
Brighton Sky Blue said:
End of next season. Doubt we’d renew as I think we can get better
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If we have progressed again then I’d agree
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #602
Ccfcisparks said:
The revisionism about COH is ridiculous. If it were Palmer out of contract at the end of the season, NOBODY would be talking about offering him a contract.

people diminishing COH’s quality Cus he is leaving is pathetic
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Are those people Mark Robins?

He’s not in the team. That’s all there is to it really.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #603
mark82 said:
If we don't renew then may be worth seeing if we can sell this summer. Obviously won't get a huge fee, but imagine it wouldn't be insignificant either. Would almost certainly have Championship interest.
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There’s been no interest since he arrived, from what we can tell anyway. Maybe see if Rangers are interested
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #604
Saddlebrains said:
We will be. And the targets are shit hot apparently. No names, just been told to be excited
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I'd get very excited if it is indeed Alexis MacAllister.

 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #605
mark82 said:
I'm not sure why we can only like one or the other. They both play for City. Want them to both do well why they are here. O'Hare has had a decent stint with us, particularly on loan in league one and the year we came up, but we will move on - ultimately we've not had him for the vast majority of the last 2 years. He'll move on but not sure he'll play regularly at a much higher level. As has been rumoured, something abroad maybe his best bet.

Equally, Palmer is fine. Perfectly adequate player at this level. Can we find better? Probably. Do we need to cast him out? Absolutely not.
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I wouldn’t offer Palmer a new contract unless on reduced terms
 
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Martw

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #606
StrettoBoy said:
I'd get very excited if it is indeed Alexis MacAllister.

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I wonder what will happen to Dele Ali, I know wages are probably stupid but if ever a guy needed to resurrect his career and find a home and have good coaching it’s him. It’s unbelievable how he has dropped off so badly.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #607
Grendel said:
I wouldn’t offer Palmer a new contract unless on reduced terms
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Yeah, shouldn't be threatening the top earners.
 

Martin180

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #608
Martw said:
I wonder what will happen to Dele Ali, I know wages are probably stupid but if ever a guy needed to resurrect his career and find a home and have good coaching it’s him. It’s unbelievable how he has dropped off so badly.
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Martw

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #609
Martin180 said:
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I get that !!
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #610
Saddlebrains said:
We will be. And the targets are shit hot apparently. No names, just been told to be excited
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Do you know what partnof the world roughly they’re from
 

Martin180

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #611
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Do you know what partnof the world roughly they’re from
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And what initial their first name starts with
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #612
Nick said:
It's just how it is, regardless of how it's spun. People can't say "Nobody would want Palmer so he will go on a free" and then moan when it's pointed out we got O'Hare on a Free and he will go on a free.
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The key difference being we would re-sign O’Hare if we could. I wouldn’t re-sign Palmer right now.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #613
Martin180 said:
And what initial their first name starts with
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O and last name B
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #614
Martin180 said:
And you’ve proved that conclusively with your concise argument ?
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It's very disappointing that this protracted argument hasn't descended to the level of everyone calling everyone cunts.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #615
Saddlebrains said:
We will be. And the targets are shit hot apparently. No names, just been told to be excited
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If MvE was a handjob, what sex acts are these? Hoping for a least an enthusiastic blowie.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #616
Ccfcisparks said:
The revisionism about COH is ridiculous. If it were Palmer out of contract at the end of the season, NOBODY would be talking about offering him a contract.

people diminishing COH’s quality Cus he is leaving is pathetic
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Is it revisionism?

I see that COH scored his goals all in a relatively short period of time. As someone who hasn’t been a prolific scorer in their career, is it more likely that is a run of amazing form?

Put it this way:

If we we wanted to sign an attacking midfielder from League 1 or even a lower championship side with the below stats, would you be excited?



Add 3 goals and an assist in the FA Cup too.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #617
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Is it revisionism?

I see that COH scored his goals all in a relatively short period of time. As someone who hasn’t been a prolific scorer in their career, is it more likely that is a run of amazing form?

Put it this way:

If we we wanted to sign an attacking midfielder from League 1 or even a lower championship side with the below stats, would you be excited?

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Add 3 goals and an assist in the FA Cup too.
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If he’s as mediocre as you seem to think, why is he likely going to be playing at a higher level than us next season?
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #618
Sick Boy said:
If he’s as mediocre as you seem to think, why is he likely going to be playing at a higher level than us next season?
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I’ve not called him mediocre on any post, or any thread.

He’ll get his big move, and a deserved payday but that doesn’t mean he’ll be successful. McNulty, Bayliss and Bright got their big moves and things didn’t work out.

Saying a player isn’t on the same plane as Hamer or Gyokeres is not an insult. It’s more of an observation. Our recruitment policy is geared toward building a team that is not only good enough for promotion, but to stay up in the Prem.

Now, pose the question to you, would you be excited at the prospect of signing a L1/lower Champ AM the same stats COH?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #619
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I’ve not called him mediocre on any post, or any thread.

He’ll get his big move, and a deserved payday but that doesn’t mean he’ll be successful. McNulty, Bayliss and Bright got their big moves and things didn’t work out.

Saying a player isn’t on the same plane as Hamer or Gyokeres is not an insult. It’s more of an observation. Our recruitment policy is geared toward building a team that is not only good enough for promotion, but to stay up in the Prem.

Now, pose the question to you, would you be excited at the prospect of signing a L1/lower Champ AM the same stats COH?
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You’ve said he’s easily replaceable, which implies he’s average/mediocre.

Your final question is just embarrassing.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #620
Sick Boy said:
You’ve said he’s easily replaceable, which implies he’s average/mediocre.

Your final question is just embarrassing.
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That’s a stretch, every footballer at this level is replaceable.

What is embarrassing is that you and the other poster won’t answer a simple question.
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #621
Mucca Mad Boys said:
That’s a stretch, every footballer at this level is replaceable.

What is embarrassing is that you and the other poster won’t answer a simple question.
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COH has been more consistent and influential in his time here than Hamer was.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #622
Ccfcisparks said:
COH has been more consistent and influential in his time here than Hamer was.
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If you say so… now, would be happy if we wanted to sign a L1 AM with identical stats to COH.

Presumably, the answer is yes.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #623
So funny it’s the people who have spent years slagging off the player who is ahead of O’Hare in the side or taking the piss out of Biamou fans who are having a breakdown over this.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #624
Sick Boy said:
You’ve said he’s easily replaceable, which implies he’s average/mediocre.

Your final question is just embarrassing.
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He is replaceable. Might not be exactly the same type of player but we'll be ok in that position.
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #625
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
If you say so… now, would be happy if we wanted to sign a L1 AM with identical stats to COH.

Presumably, the answer is yes.
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If they were as influential as COH absolutely.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #626
Mucca Mad Boys said:
That’s a stretch, every footballer at this level is replaceable.

What is embarrassing is that you and the other poster won’t answer a simple question.
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The question has nothing to do with CoH as his stats aren’t from League One. It just comes across as bitter because he hasn’t signed a new contract. When he’s playing at a higher level than us next season I doubt his new club will be worrying about a hypothetical situation about what if his stats were from League One.

It appears Robins would certainly disagrees with you considering we offered him a substantial contract.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #627
mark82 said:
He is replaceable. Might not be exactly the same type of player but we'll be ok in that position.
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Of course he is but we’ll miss his quality and there’s a reason why he’ll be playing at a higher level than us next season.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #628
Grendel said:
We offered O Hare a new and improved contract to keep him - let’s see what Palmer gets offered having already had a reduction in pay this season
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How much did we reduce Palmer’s pay this season?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #629
Sick Boy said:
It just comes across as bitter because he hasn’t signed a new contract.
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This is all it is mostly, and it's a bit understandable to be fair, nobody likes seeing good players go for nothing. Hasn't happened to us since Keiren Westwood really
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #630
SBT said:
How much did we reduce Palmer’s pay this season?
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Whatever was in his contract after the Bristol pay discrepancy expired
 
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