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SBAndy

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  • Saturday at 1:49 PM
  • #36
shepardo01 said:
8m!
Surely we could strengthen over a few areas for that sort of outlay.
If 8m is the price, he won't be coming here.

If it were more of a reasonable deal, I'd be really happy with this though.
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Best we could do really is a loan with an obligation to purchase for, say, £10m if we went up.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Saturday at 1:54 PM
  • #37
robinsforever said:
Not for me. Kitching is getting better and has leadership qualities. Binks is fine as back up to him. I think we need an older head experienced right side CD to replace Latabadieure as for me he is too small for CD
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I don’t view Binks and Lati as strong back ups imo.

Looking at the defence last season, something needs to change. Aside from the fact that we conceded the most goals in the top half… tactically, if we’re trying to be more ball dominant and playing a high line, we probably need a CB with a profile of being athletic and more comfortable in possession.

Grimes slots in as a 3rd CB in possession to give the CBs (Thomas in particular) an easy passing lane so they don’t give the ball away in compromising positions (like MVE).

My gut instinct is that one of the CBs (Lati or Binks) will be moved on this summer.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Saturday at 2:04 PM
  • #38
8m then a no for me. 4-5m I would risk I think
 
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shmmeee

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  • Saturday at 2:04 PM
  • #39
Sick Boy said:
A baffling decision to say the least.
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I assume it was because he was a loan.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Saturday at 2:10 PM
  • #40
At the price they would want for Doyle, you could probably get Worrall from Burnley and have a load of change to spend in more crucial areas like a keeper.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Saturday at 2:12 PM
  • #41
I understood the preference of permanent over loan and agree with it. The problem is we had a season to look at Binks and still made the decision to sign. Odd one for me.
 

shmmeee

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  • Saturday at 2:13 PM
  • #42
Cally Fedora said:
I understood the preference of permanent over loan and agree with it. The problem is we had a season to look at Binks and still made the decision to sign. Odd one for me.
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He was a cheap young pickup that provides cover and might develop. Far from the oddest signing we’ve made
 
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SBT

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  • Saturday at 2:14 PM
  • #43
shmmeee said:
I assume it was because he was a loan.
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Yeah, I mean there’s no doubt who the better player is, and I’m sure Robins/Austin knew that. But you can see the rationale in betting on a permanent signing rather than doing another one year loan.
 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Saturday at 2:19 PM
  • #44
Swansea fans seem to think Darling will go to either Birmingham or Wrexham as both can offer him top level wages
 

chinamans view

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  • Saturday at 2:34 PM
  • #45
Doyle, Man/city turned down £10m last season, so fee would be more like £15/18 m. so you are way out with what he would cost.
 
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Cov4Ever

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  • Saturday at 2:50 PM
  • #46
Would be a class signing, was great in a mediocre Norwich side.

If anything he'd be one that would allow us to start pushing us towards the autos as it would work well alongside Thomas.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Saturday at 3:24 PM
  • #47
chinamans view said:
Doyle, Man/city turned down £10m last season, so fee would be more like £15/18 m. so you are way out with what he would cost.
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No Championship defender is worth that really are they?
 
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Balli001

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  • Saturday at 3:57 PM
  • #48
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Swansea fans seem to think Darling will go to either Birmingham or Wrexham as both can offer him top level wages
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Too young for Wrexham
 
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Bigal007

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  • Saturday at 4:19 PM
  • #49
Ccfcisparks said:
Question is, we sell Wright, Simms, BTA and others and our budget was £25m

would you be happy spending £8m on Doyle considering he can cover CB, LB and mean we could switch to 3 at the back.

The remainder of replacements spent with the remaining money.

for me Doyle is worth the money.
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Not a chance selling those 3 would net that sort of money.
 
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wingy

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  • Saturday at 4:24 PM
  • #50
SonofErnie said:
Fully aware of that. More a question of whether his standards have dropped or he has developed bad habits. It could impact his valuation.
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Well yeah if we're lucky !
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Saturday at 4:27 PM
  • #51
shmmeee said:
He was a cheap young pickup that provides cover and might develop. Far from the oddest signing we’ve made
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Fair enough. Squad player as cover. Players like Doyle have the ability to take us up a level.
 
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JoeCCFCPUSB

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  • Saturday at 5:09 PM
  • #52
I'd prefer Mcnally and Heggem both better than what we have and would cost literally combined the same as Doyle.

No doubt Doyle would be a great signing, but I think we need to offload both Binks and Lati, Doyle costing 8 million would be a huge chunk of our budget for just 1 player replaced.
 

stupot07

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  • Saturday at 5:12 PM
  • #53
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I don’t view Binks and Lati as strong back ups imo.

Looking at the defence last season, something needs to change. Aside from the fact that we conceded the most goals in the top half… tactically, if we’re trying to be more ball dominant and playing a high line, we probably need a CB with a profile of being athletic and more comfortable in possession.

Grimes slots in as a 3rd CB in possession to give the CBs (Thomas in particular) an easy passing lane so they don’t give the ball away in compromising positions (like MVE).

My gut instinct is that one of the CBs (Lati or Binks) will be moved on this summer.
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Lati and Binks weren't good enough in the 23/24 season, we all said we lacked the leadership and experience from losing McFadzean and instead of signing someone in that mould we signed Binks despite him already being second choice.
 
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skyblue_55

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  • Saturday at 5:14 PM
  • #54
There has to be question marks over Doyle , as he will never play for Man City , but they keep farming him out to championship clubs .
His lack of genuine pace is his big Achilles heel .
 
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robinsforever

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  • Saturday at 6:56 PM
  • #55
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I don’t view Binks and Lati as strong back ups imo.

Looking at the defence last season, something needs to change. Aside from the fact that we conceded the most goals in the top half… tactically, if we’re trying to be more ball dominant and playing a high line, we probably need a CB with a profile of being athletic and more comfortable in possession.

Grimes slots in as a 3rd CB in possession to give the CBs (Thomas in particular) an easy passing lane so they don’t give the ball away in compromising positions (like MVE).

My gut instinct is that one of the CBs (Lati or Binks) will be moved on this summer.
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Yes I agree and I'd move on Lati. Problem is do you think it's realistic Kitching and Doyle fighting for the shirt? I could see whoever isn't In the side wanting out. I hear what you are saying but I'd think Kitching now expects to be first choice.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Saturday at 7:39 PM
  • #56
Ccfcisparks said:
Question is, we sell Wright, Simms, BTA and others and our budget was £25m

would you be happy spending £8m on Doyle considering he can cover CB, LB and mean we could switch to 3 at the back.

The remainder of replacements spent with the remaining money.

for me Doyle is worth the money.
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No, he's not worth it plus his wages.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Saturday at 7:51 PM
  • #57
One of the few ex-players I wouldn't mind signing, at the time I kept telling people he would play for England someday. Progress seems to have stalled somewhat, but think a settled few years would have him flying.



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Marty

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  • Saturday at 8:18 PM
  • #58
If we can get him for the right money he'd be a great signing. Loan to buy or big bonuses on promotion/sell on clauses would be the way to get him I think.
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Saturday at 10:17 PM
  • #59
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I don’t view Binks and Lati as strong back ups imo.

Looking at the defence last season, something needs to change. Aside from the fact that we conceded the most goals in the top half… tactically, if we’re trying to be more ball dominant and playing a high line, we probably need a CB with a profile of being athletic and more comfortable in possession.

Grimes slots in as a 3rd CB in possession to give the CBs (Thomas in particular) an easy passing lane so they don’t give the ball away in compromising positions (like MVE).

My gut instinct is that one of the CBs (Lati or Binks) will be moved on this summer.
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I think Lati will be the one we see move on. A good versatile player, but if we are playing that high line then you're right about the type of profile that we need.
Lati makes me so nervous when he's in a tight spot, almost every game you can guarantee he's going to try that move where he plays for a foul.
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Yesterday at 1:03 AM
  • #60
Jimmy87 said:
I think Lati will be the one we see move on. A good versatile player, but if we are playing that high line then you're right about the type of profile that we need.
Lati makes me so nervous when he's in a tight spot, almost every game you can guarantee he's going to try that move where he plays for a foul.
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If Lati is happy being a versatile squad player, I'd keep him. I think he is a valuable player to have and has a good attitude.
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Yesterday at 1:14 AM
  • #61
play_in_skyblue_stripes said:
If Lati is happy being a versatile squad player, I'd keep him. I think he is a valuable player to have and has a good attitude.
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Tough one isn't it, it's whether or not he's happy to be sat on the bench.
If we want to make the step up, we need to improve at the back, which could mean possibly Kitching or Thomas even dropping to the bench, he'd be right down the pecking order, especially if we bring in a new RB cover.
 
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GC1976

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  • Yesterday at 3:25 AM
  • #62
Doyle has played 130 odd games at 21 years of age. That’s some going …
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Yesterday at 9:50 AM
  • #63
Bigal007 said:
Not a chance selling those 3 would net that sort of money.
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While I agree to an extent, if a club in Saudi or the USA 'wants' Hadji they could easily spend 15-18 million on him, even as on option on the bench. He is also a USA international and the USA are hosting the World Cup next summer. These factors create premiums and for the Saudi league he would be solid signing for an aspiring affluent club.

BTA - I think we had interest in January around the 3.5-4m mark?

Simms - Surely with the abilities he has shown, albeit not consistently, he must be a 4m player in today's market?

I think around 20 million for the 3 might be possible with the right agents targeting the right buyers.
 

Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Yesterday at 9:52 AM
  • #64
ccfc1234 said:
While I agree to an extent, if a club in Saudi or the USA 'wants' Hadji they could easily spend 15-18 million on him, even as on option on the bench. He is also a USA international and the USA are hosting the World Cup next summer. These factors create premiums and for the Saudi league he would be solid signing for an aspiring affluent club.

BTA - I think we had interest in January around the 3.5-4m mark?

Simms - Surely with the abilities he has shown, albeit not consistently, he must be a 4m player in today's market?

I think around 20 million for the 3 might be possible with the right agents targeting the right buyers.
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If we keep him he needs ahuge season to get involved in the USA squad , could be an incentive
 

Tommo1993

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  • Yesterday at 9:54 AM
  • #65
Can’t imagine our war chest is gonna be massive. Spending that amount on a defender would be quite disappointing imo, despite our back line being as dodgy as it can be, I think we’ve got big problems up front to fix.
 

Balli001

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  • Yesterday at 9:57 AM
  • #66
Tommo1993 said:
Can’t imagine our war chest is gonna be massive. Spending that amount on a defender would be quite disappointing imo, despite our back line being as dodgy as it can be, I think we’ve got big problems up front to fix.
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The striker problems would be able to be fixed if we sold the current ones. They would generate enough income to spend on decent replacements
 
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stupot07

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  • Yesterday at 11:23 AM
  • #67
GC1976 said:
Doyle has played 130 odd games at 21 years of age. That’s some going …
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That is a lot of games, he'll end up burning out in his late 20s.

For him, if he wants premier league football, he probably needs to move abroad for a season or two, and play top flight football like Maatsen and Van Arnolt did.

He's a good player but I do wonder if his lack of pace would be an issue with us playing such a high line.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Yesterday at 11:32 AM
  • #68
ccfc1234 said:
While I agree to an extent, if a club in Saudi or the USA 'wants' Hadji they could easily spend 15-18 million on him, even as on option on the bench. He is also a USA international and the USA are hosting the World Cup next summer. These factors create premiums and for the Saudi league he would be solid signing for an aspiring affluent club.

BTA - I think we had interest in January around the 3.5-4m mark?

Simms - Surely with the abilities he has shown, albeit not consistently, he must be a 4m player in today's market?

I think around 20 million for the 3 might be possible with the right agents targeting the right buyers.
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Simms goals last season alone will mean we should start the bidding at £5m
 
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quinn1971

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  • Yesterday at 11:45 AM
  • #69
skyblue_55 said:
There has to be question marks over Doyle , as he will never play for Man City , but they keep farming him out to championship clubs .
His lack of genuine pace is his big Achilles heel .
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we need a bit of pace at the back with that high line, des walker esque
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Yesterday at 11:49 AM
  • #70
I'd never spend £8m for a CB in the Championship.

He's quality but if you do the right scouting you can get 4/5 top players for that.
 
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