slowpoke
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Was he ? Burnley might like to think he was
Was he ? Burnley might like to think he wasPeople forget that he was going to leave to Burnley until he got injured.
And we should be confident that we already are doing that planning like we were doing for Haji Wright, Simms etc. The recruitment this season should give us confident that we can bring in some more gems if O'Hare inevitably leaves in the summer.He isnt signing lads
Stop reading into things
Me and a few others on here with links have all said the same. The kid wants a crack at higher money and higher level football
The most important thing is we identify his replacement ready for the opening of the window in the summer, we only get 1 crack at replacing someone like him
And we will hopefully this monthAnd we should be confident that we already are doing that planning like we were doing for Haji Wright, Simms etc. The recruitment this season should give us confident that we can bring in some more gems if O'Hare inevitably leaves in the summer.
And we should be confident that we already are doing that planning like we were doing for Haji Wright, Simms etc. The recruitment this season should give us confident that we can bring in some more gems if O'Hare inevitably leaves in the summer.
Has that come from your source who told you Vik wasn't leaving?Was he ? Burnley might like to think he was
Well he’s only got a fortnight.Wonder if Robins will wait to see how Torp fits in before jumping into the market to replace CoH ?
As it seems more and more likely that CoH is leaving, would be costly and unnecessary to get another AM in if Torp is a more than capable replacement. Not seen him play (other than a 4 min YT video) so a lot of this is guesswork.
Well he’s only got a fortnight.
Anything £1m plus - take it.
If we go up and could offer him a bigger wage maybe he would stay fingers crossedWhilst I accept he is leaving, I am really gutted. He is a proper hero and has been such a huge part of the revival. I don't blame him for taking the money and bigger club.
O’Hare said it was between his agent and the club. And it is. Otherwise what's the use of having an agent. And he won't know a lot until any other offers come in.Not difficult to understand just wish players would be honest.When he's asked about his contract he says that he knows nothing. I wish him all the best alot of the problem is agent's want there cut.
So when he says that it's between the club and his agent is he being honest or disingenuous? Surely he would know if he is considering the club's offer asking for 10k more or frankly stringing the fans along with ambiguous statements.O’Hare said it was between his agent and the club. And it is. Otherwise what's the use of having an agent. And he won't know a lot until any other offers come in.
What does that change for you if he did thatSo when he says that it's between the club and his agent is he being honest or disingenuous? Surely he would know if he is considering the club's offer asking for 10k more or frankly stringing the fans along with ambiguous statements.
I am still holding out hope they are negotiating and he wants to stay. But if not he should maybe be honest and say he wants to concentrate on his football and look at contracts at the end of the season.
Why do you think that it's all about the money?So when he says that it's between the club and his agent is he being honest or disingenuous? Surely he would know if he is considering the club's offer asking for 10k more or frankly stringing the fans along with ambiguous statements.
I am still holding out hope they are negotiating and he wants to stay. But if not he should maybe be honest and say he wants to concentrate on his football and look at contracts at the end of the season.
I do mean it. He’s a good player. I’d like us to keep him. But he’s not staying. We are much better cash wise with DK but in business terms he’s the equivalent of 2, possibly 3,000 season ticket sales. The counter argument is that keeping him short term could get us a play off spot and I understand that. It also assumes of course someone will pay. I suspect the deal is done and he’ll play out time till the summer.You can't mean that. He's on for 10 goals from midfield and is creating as much as he did last year. We've hit form since he's been back and he's played a big part in the turnaround.
We won't be able to replace his output, workrate and effect on the squad in this window unless we drop a lot of money (£5m+) on someone who's wages would dwarf his current salary.
If he had another year on his contract, he'd be worth as much as Hamer. The fact he doesn't is a sh*t mix of circumstances and SISU being short sighted. Enjoy him while he's here.
I see COH and Torp as very different players Martian. COH is a 10 and Torpy an 8 from everything I have read. I think at times we tried Hamer in the 10 position last year but it certainly wasn't his best position. I see Torpy paired with Sheaf with a 10 ahead of them - Torpy bombing forward Hamer style but from that deeper position on the pitch. The direct replacement in today's squad for COH is most likely Palmer - who I'm a huge fan of but I'm sure the scouts are 100% planning for a scenario where COH is not with us after May. I hope he stays but we're not in a strong position here - the player holds most of the cards.Wonder if Robins will wait to see how Torp fits in before jumping into the market to replace CoH ?
As it seems more and more likely that CoH is leaving, would be costly and unnecessary to get another AM in if Torp is a more than capable replacement. Not seen him play (other than a 4 min YT video) so a lot of this is guesswork.
I see COH and Torp as very different players Martian. COH is a 10 and Torpy an 8 from everything I have read. I think at times we tried Hamer in the 10 position last year but it certainly wasn't his best position. I see Torpy paired with Sheaf with a 10 ahead of them - Torpy bombing forward Hamer style but from that deeper position on the pitch. The direct replacement in today's squad for COH is most likely Palmer - who I'm a huge fan of but I'm sure the scouts are 100% planning for a scenario where COH is not with us after May. I hope he stays but we're not in a strong position here - the player holds most of the cards.
He wants to play in the top flight. If we go up he stays if we don’t he doesn’tSo when he says that it's between the club and his agent is he being honest or disingenuous? Surely he would know if he is considering the club's offer asking for 10k more or frankly stringing the fans along with ambiguous statements.
I am still holding out hope they are negotiating and he wants to stay. But if not he should maybe be honest and say he wants to concentrate on his football and look at contracts at the end of the season.
Exactly. Same as Vik and fair enough, just unfortunate we weren't smart enough to tie him down a big longer.He wants to play in the top flight. If we go up he stays if we don’t he doesn’t
That said if no top flight club comes in for him and he signs for relegated Burnley on a free…ouch.Exactly. Same as Vik and fair enough, just unfortunate we weren't smart enough to tie him down a big longer.
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He can suck my plums if he does it. In fact I'll make sure of it.That said if no top flight club comes in for him and he signs for relegated Burnley on a free…ouch.
What does it change? The clarification simply ends the speculation about if the two parties are in active negotiations or not and stops the press constantly asking about the matter and everyone can focus on football.What does that change for you if he did thatLiterally nothing
Either way he is holding tight and figuring it out at the end of the season…whether he avoids the question saying he doesn’t know, whether he says fuck off I fancy more money, or whether he says he will look at it at the end of the season
End result still the same isn’t it
God we have some strange fans
SISU gave him a new contract. He'd have been gone already without that.If he had another year on his contract, he'd be worth as much as Hamer. The fact he doesn't is a sh*t mix of circumstances and SISU being short sighted. Enjoy him while he's here.
Tricky in this bloody weather - I'm off to play footie this morning, and mine have gone into hidingHe can suck my plums if he does it. In fact I'll make sure of it.
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He can suck my plums if he does it. In fact I'll make sure of it.
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SISU gave him a new contract. He'd have been gone already without that.
Well yeah exactly. I mean I actually feel a bit sorry for him he didn't get his move as that must be hard to reconcile but of the many things to aim at SISU, tying him to a contract and him then getting injured ain't one of them!He’s literally only still here because he got injured.
“Oooh he loves it here and wants to touch all of the fans willies and stroke their backs and feed them grapes”
Ordinarily I'd agree with getting a fee for him rather than letting him leave on a free, but given the form he's in right now I think I'd risk keeping him and seeing if he can help us achieve promotion. If we manage that I think he'd stay anyway.No way any of Eccles/Sheaf/Allen are getting dropped for Torp yet. As for O’Hare, these protracted wranglings do my head in. It’s obvious he’s going. We should go all out to cash in on him this window. Anything £1m plus - take it.
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