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ExmouthNeil

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #701
shmmeee said:
Me either! Just went down a Google hole after seeing him tagged in a goal celebration tweet.
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Lucky it wasn't a rabbit hole
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #702
shmmeee said:
Me either! Just went down a Google hole after seeing him tagged in a goal celebration tweet.
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What's a bad bunny?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #703
mark82 said:
What's a bad bunny?
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After extensive research I can confidently say: a rapper, I think?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #704
Chris1987 said:
Really ? Agents just generally fill their boots
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Yeah, the players are just being held hostage by them. In reality, the agents are hired by the players and the agents work on their instructions.
 

Covcraig@bury

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #705
mark82 said:
What's a bad bunny?
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A rampant rabbit with no batteries , just asked the wife
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #706
He's already been extended by the previous bunch was on verge of moving and that ends this summer, wouldn't have been a top deal I'm sure, can either give him what he wants or check out after the POF.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #707
Sick Boy said:
Yeah, the players are just being held hostage by them. In reality, the agents are hired by the players and the agents work on their instructions.
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I do think they can get into their head and influence what suits them as well as the player.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #708
ccfc1234 said:
I do think they can get into their head and influence what suits them as well as the player.
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Based on what exactly?
 

Skyblue_CP

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #709
NGL, after comments made by both Cal and Robins after the match on Saturday. I was quietly hopeful he might sign today, alas was not to be.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #710
AOM said:
On the subject of O'Hare, does anyone know what his goal celebration means?

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Still not got closure about what Vik's meant either
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Look into my Eyes


 

ccfc1234

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #711
Sick Boy said:
Based on what exactly?
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On the fact that my dad's mates son was an agent for Newcastle players around 2010, he was a bragging type (being polite!) and knowing I was into football took me and my dad to Newcastle. In the car he was mocking how little we paid our players and was very candid that he liked the merry go round of players on short term deals as he got paid well from signing on fees.
Regardless of my experiences do you think an agent will earn more from a contract extension or a player leaving on a free transfer to another team?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #712
ccfc1234 said:
On the fact that my dad's mates son was an agent for Newcastle players around 2010, he was a bragging type (being polite!) and knowing I was into football took me and my dad to Newcastle. In the car he was mocking how little we paid our players and was very candid that he liked the merry go round of players on short term deals as he got paid well from signing on fees.
Regardless of my experiences do you think an agent will earn more from a contract extension or a player leaving on a free transfer to another team?
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Do you think a player will earn more from a contract extension or leaving on a free to another team?
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #713
RegThell Donk said:
I really don't know how these things work but at the very least, yes can we not make him top earner with just a years extension? Surely there is money left from the transfers to cover this? The team will hopefully be gelled tight by then and if we hit the ground running next year, with a bigger squad to cover injuries etc, who knows? We've improved year on year under MR, ask him to show some faith with us, just one more year. He's young enough to still move on if we don't get promoted.
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Okay when/if he goes he will be on more than we can offer. But it was the same with Gyokeres and Hamer, it is about the desire to have the opportunity to play at a higher level, it is just that higher level will bring higher wages.

To be honest if any of our players don't have a desire to play at a higher level, they shouldn't be here. Because they wouldn't get us promotion with that lack of desire.
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #714
Sick Boy said:
Do you think a player will earn more from a contract extension or leaving on a free to another team?
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Depends on the club offering the extension and the player in question.
Some players are offered better terms to stay but move on for all sorts of reasons.
I suspect last time we renewed Kelly it was on better terms than he could have realistically got anywhere else.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #715
ccfc1234 said:
Depends on the club offering the extension and the player in question.
Some players are offered better terms to stay but move on for all sorts of reasons.
I suspect last time we renewed Kelly it was on better terms than he could have realistically got anywhere else.
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If they’re in demand the player will get a bigger signing on fee going on a free. Kelly was hardly in demand with other clubs in this division; his agent would have advised him to stay, I’m sure.
 
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robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #716
Sick Boy said:
If they’re in demand the player will get a bigger signing on fee going on a free. Kelly was hardly in demand with other clubs in this division; his agent would have advised him to stay, I’m sure.
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Yeah, and and agents role is to maximise outcome for the player…most of the time that will be money and incentives but if a player wants to go somewhere or stay somewhere the agent will make that happen. It’s really not as deep as people think it is most of the time
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #717
I saw something on X with a Celtic fan asking someone if the CoH on a pre-contract to them was true.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #718
AFCCOVENTRY said:
I saw something on X with a Celtic fan asking someone if the CoH on a pre-contract to them was true.
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Lol. Doubt it

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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #719
Going to Scotland is worse than going to Hull. At least Vik gets to spend his afternoons on the beach after playing pub football.
 

Skyblue_CP

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #720
Awful lot of trolls appearing recently.
 

itsabuzzard

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #721
Houdini said:
If O’hare leaves on a free, we need to protest against the ownership. With the funds King has received for Hamer and Gyokeres, there is no excuse to not give O’hare what he wants. He’s a talisman and we are a far inferior team without him.

Given our inability to replace Hamer and Gyokeres, it’s hard to imagine we’ll replace O’hare sufficiently.
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If there aren't any clubs out there willing to pay a fee, then what on earth do you expect the owners to do? As has been stated by quite a few posters, it appears we have to wait until the summer for this to be resolved.
On your other point, you could argue that given we're in a better position than this time last year, we have moved on from Gus and Vik, which can only be a good thing. The obsession with "replacing" players is tedious; MR has effectively built a new team. He's working wonders.
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #722
Houdini said:
Im no troll, also I’m a long term member who’s far more beloved than you
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If I'd have known it was you Boosh, I wouldn't have bothered replying.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #723
Houdini said:
Pay him the wages he wants.

As you don’t attend games, your opinion on our current squad is irrelevant
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Replying to your point rather than your ad hominem, have you considered the possibility that he wants to play for a "bigger" club in a "bigger" league?
 

itsabuzzard

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #724
Houdini said:
I thought once you knew I was Boosh you weren’t going to reply? Remember I was the reason you came back on here after your exile. Obsessed loser
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Apologies; I mistakenly thought you might be capable of reasonable discussion.
 

Astute

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #725
ExmouthNeil said:
I know there is no loyalty in football but I would have hoped for a 1 year extension with better terms and an opinion for him to leave at the end of the season if we don't get promoted.
I know we were duty bound as he was contracted to us during his injury but it would be nice to see a bit of a thank you for getting my career back on track...
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Look at his performances. Look at his goal celebrations. He is 100% behind trying to get us promoted playing his best football ever and he isn't even fit yet.

O'Hare has been a big reason we are where we are. A big part of the togetherness at our club. Look at him trying to get the supporters to make noise against Leicester. You can see how much it means to him.

I'm the same with O'Hare as with Hamer. A contract isn't a 1 sided thing. I'm not having a go at any player who is fulfilling their contract while giving 100% on the pitch. I would love him to stay yet understand he is ambitious and wants to test himself against the best.

If we go up I am sure he will stay. If we don't I'm sure he won't. But he owes us nothing. I have nothing but respect for him.
 
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Astute

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #726
Adge said:
Doesn’t Dewsberry Hall do it after scoring for Leicester?
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Have you seen his post match interview yet? He may be good. But overvalued and a bit of a twat.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #727
Astute said:
Look at his performances. Look at his goal celebrations. He is 100% behind trying to get us promoted playing his best football ever and he isn't even fit yet.

O'Hare has been a big reason we are where we are. A big part of the togetherness at our club. Look at him trying to get the supporters to make noise against Leicester. You can see how much it means to him.

I'm the same with O'Hare as with Hamer. A contract isn't a 1 sided thing. I'm not having a go at any player who is fulfilling their contract while giving 100% on the pitch. I would love him to stay yet understand he is ambitious and wants to test himself against the best.

If we go up I am sure he will stay. If we don't I'm sure he won't. But he owes us nothing. I have nothing but respect for him.
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Thats robins and Ohares take to ensure the squad and team still get the most out of him
Agent and Mr King are the ones who hold the keys
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #728
Houdini said:
If O’hare leaves on a free, we need to protest against the ownership. With the funds King has received for Hamer and Gyokeres, there is no excuse to not give O’hare what he wants. He’s a talisman and we are a far inferior team without him.

Given our inability to replace Hamer and Gyokeres, it’s hard to imagine we’ll replace O’hare sufficiently.
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If he leaves on a free it's because he wants to

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fatso

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #729
Houdini said:
Perhaps, but rumour has it he’s not even been offered a deal in line with our highest earners
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Well that depends on which bullshit rumour you're stupid enough to believe.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #730
Houdini said:
If O’hare leaves on a free, we need to protest against the ownership. With the funds King has received for Hamer and Gyokeres, there is no excuse to not give O’hare what he wants. He’s a talisman and we are a far inferior team without him.

Given our inability to replace Hamer and Gyokeres, it’s hard to imagine we’ll replace O’hare sufficiently.
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Quick Houdini… get the pitch fork out lad




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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #731
Houdini said:
Your whole personality is based on being fat. Loser
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Again, you choose to believe a forum handle.
FYI, I'm called Fatso because I used to be drastically underweight, and I was given a sarcastic nickname.
Don't believe everything you read/hear. Boosh
 
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fatso

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #732
Y
Houdini said:
didn’t ask to read your diary
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You'd struggle.
 
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Astute

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #733
Sky Blue Pete said:
Thats robins and Ohares take to ensure the squad and team still get the most out of him
Agent and Mr King are the ones who hold the keys
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And O'Hare?

If O'Hare has decided his next contract will be in the Prem if possible and we don't get promoted there's nothing King or his agent can do other than one looks to get him a Prem side and the other says thanks for the memories.

But we still have 19 games for us to get promoted or for us to just miss out and O'Hare given the choice of a probable relegation battle in the Prem or a serious challenge to go up as champions.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #734
No sense in moving to a bottom three PL club when you can go to a newly promoted team. That will probably also finish bottom three but at least you get a full season and a bit of hope.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #735
Houdini said:
Perhaps, but rumour has it he’s not even been offered a deal in line with our highest earners
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Assuming that's material to his decision
 
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