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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #106
fernandopartridge said:
In that case CCFC should stop all the nonsense about being formed in 1883 as they weren't professional for their first 9 years or so.

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The Club turned professional, not nearly the same. Wasps FC set up a separate professional team, Wasps RFC while maintaining the amateur club Wasps FC and they both went their separate ways not long after. Good try though. No pun intended.
 

stupot07

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  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #107
skybluetony176 said:
The Club turned professional, not nearly the same. Wasps FC set up a separate professional team, Wasps RFC while maintaining the amateur club Wasps FC and they both went their separate ways not long after. Good try though. No pun intended.
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Wasps don't seem to think so...
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #108
That would be no different to MK Dons claiming that they have a 120year history. They clearly don't.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #109
First pro season was 96/97 with the top division made up of: Bath, Bristol, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, London Irish, Northampton, Orrell, Sale, Saracens, Wasps, West Hartlepool

Final amateur season was 95/96 with the top division made up of: Bath, Bristol, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, Orrell, Sale, Saracens, Wasps, West Hartlepool
London Irish and Northampton were the top 2 clubs in the second tier that season.

Are people really trying to claim that they aren't the same clubs?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #110
chiefdave said:
First pro season was 96/97 with the top division made up of: Bath, Bristol, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, London Irish, Northampton, Orrell, Sale, Saracens, Wasps, West Hartlepool

Final amateur season was 95/96 with the top division made up of: Bath, Bristol, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, Orrell, Sale, Saracens, Wasps, West Hartlepool
London Irish and Northampton were the top 2 clubs in the second tier that season.

Are people really trying to claim that they aren't the same clubs?
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Yes, this is Toni you're dealing with

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Grendel

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  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #111
fernandopartridge said:
Yes, this is Toni you're dealing with

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Just had a sneaky look at his inane drivel. Back onto ignore now.
 
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covmark

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  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #112
skybluetony176 said:
That would be no different to MK Dons claiming that they have a 120year history. They clearly don't.
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Fucking hell Tony. Have a day off.

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martcov

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  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #113
wingy said:
Some in the media have.
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The rugby club I used to sponsor for 16 years - before they forgot about points in our sponsorship contract- often refer to them as Coventry Wasps and have been invited to see them in action as part of their visit to Coventry to play CRFC in a friendly. The friendly is part of the 70 years City friendship Coventry/ Kiel.
 
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Moff

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  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #114
skybluetony176 said:
I don't disagree with any of that. It was the notion that the professional team of Wasps (Wasps RFC) somehow have a 150 year history, they don't. It was set up by the amateur team (Wasps FC) 30 years ago and split from the amateur team when they moved to Loftus Road in the mid 90's just 1 year after being formed leaving Wasps FC as an amateur only club at there original location where they still play today with their 150 year history as a separate entity.
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I don't know any Rugby fan that sees their professional team as a different one to when they were amateur, they are still the same.

I know a guy who played for Gloucester, and rightly proud of that fact. He was an amateur and does not consider the Professional Club to be a new one, or any different. They are one and the same with their long proud history.

I know Saints fans and Tigers fans who regard the professional team as the same team they supported in the amateur era, not from the day they turned professional, and its the same for Wasps.
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #115
duffer said:
Wasps are not nomadic. I'm sorry but this is a deliberately lazy form of expression that people use to justify hypocrisy. It's almost as though people don't know what nomads are. Wasps were based in London from their origins (which they notably haven't disclaimed) 150 years ago. Their fan base hailed from London and it's surrounds, and they remained in London in terms of their academy until very recently. Again, nomads by definition move from place to place aimlessly - until the Ricoh became available Wasps always looked to remain in or near London. Even Wasps owner when he bought the club said it; "Wasps are a London club." - why on earth would they call themselves 'London Wasps' if that also wasn't their intention at the time.

Wycombe to London is patently not Coventry to London unless you're an idiot or you're dancing on the head of a pin to avoid admitting an inconvenient truth. If moving to QPR and then Wycombe made Wasps nomadic, then what did moving from HR to the Ricoh and then to Northampton and back to the Ricoh make us? Nomadic is a crap argument, and it simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny I'm afraid.

Wasps moved from London to Coventry for business reasons that suited their owner at the time, in this case a very cheap deal on a stadium. If our owners, for business reasons that suit them at the time, decide to move us elsewhere then who here who accepts Wasps can complain? Either it's OK to move a club from its roots for the owner's business reasons, or it isn't.
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Lol!

Wasps are NOT a London club NOW.

Wasps have moved their home stadium at leat 5 times therefore they can be classed as nomadic.

FACT


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shmmeee

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #116
Forget Wasps, who's your Facebook friend?
 
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Hobo

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #117
skybluebeduff said:
Timothy said he had investors didn't he for new stadium/BPA upgrade?
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That could be CRFC planning to expand the stadium. It doesn't mean Fisher or SISU are bringing anything to the table.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #118
shmmeee said:
Forget Wasps, who's your Facebook friend?
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I was thinking that, can't be his missus either. Come on mate.
 

stupot07

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #119
shmmeee said:
Forget Wasps, who's your Facebook friend?
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fernandopartridge said:
I was thinking that, can't be his missus either. Come on mate.
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Mrs Stupot07. Didn't realise at the time, was going to take it down but tony had already quoted it.

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duffer

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #120
Fergusons_Beard said:
Lol!

Wasps are NOT a London club NOW.

Wasps have moved their home stadium at leat 5 times therefore they can be classed as nomadic.

FACT
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LOL!

I hadn't realised that WASPS (previously known as LONDON WASPS) had moved to Coventry NOW. Thanks for putting me right.

Coventry City:
  • Dowells Field: 1883–1887
  • Stoke Road: 1887–1899
  • Highfield Road: 1899–2005
  • Ricoh Arena: 2005–2013
  • Sixfields Stadium: 2013–2014 (ground-share with Northampton Town)
  • Ricoh Arena: 2014–present
Five moves, five grounds. FIVE! So Coventry City are officially 'NOMADIC'. I know this because you told me it is a FACT.

Let me just confirm this by saying the following to HELP YOU and PROVE that I am entirely right. END OF.

(Phew, it's really hard writing in the style of an eight year-old, I think I'll take a breather now).

Edit: Apologies FB if I've missed the intended humour in your post. If so, fair play, you got me.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #121
duffer said:
LOL!

I hadn't realised that WASPS (previously known as LONDON WASPS) had moved to Coventry NOW. Thanks for putting me right.

Coventry City:
  • Dowells Field: 1883–1887
  • Stoke Road: 1887–1899
  • Highfield Road: 1899–2005
  • Ricoh Arena: 2005–2013
  • Sixfields Stadium: 2013–2014 (ground-share with Northampton Town)
  • Ricoh Arena: 2014–present
Five moves, five grounds. FIVE! So Coventry City are officially 'NOMADIC'. I know this because you told me it is a FACT.

Let me just confirm this by saying the following to HELP YOU and PROVE that I am entirely right. END OF.

(Phew, it's really hard writing in the style of an eight year-old, I think I'll take a breather now).
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I think FB was being facetious mate

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shmmeee

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #122
stupot07 said:
Mrs Stupot07. Didn't realise at the time, was going to take it down but tony had already quoted it.

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Done well there son (I assume, having never met you. You could be an underwear model for all I know).
 
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duffer

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #123
fernandopartridge said:
I think FB was being facetious mate

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Bugger - if so I apologise for being snappy. I wish he'd have given me a clue though. Where's the 'facetious' emoji when you need it, eh.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #124
Just a thought on Butts Park. We're told by many its a non starter as it couldn't cope with more people than attend CRFC and the old folks will object to the noise.

So what happens when UB40 play there in a few weeks. Would imagine they are expecting a crowd as big as, if not larger, than we get and it should be a whole lot louder for longer. Doesn't seem to have been any problem putting that on.
 
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martcov

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #125
chiefdave said:
Just a thought on Butts Park. We're told by many its a non starter as it couldn't cope with more people than attend CRFC and the old folks will object to the noise.

So what happens when UB40 play there in a few weeks. Would imagine they are expecting a crowd as big as, if not larger, than we get and it should be a whole lot louder for longer. Doesn't seem to have been any problem putting that on.
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Take a drive round just before the gig and see what it's like. Good test.
 

clint van damme

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #126
chiefdave said:
Just a thought on Butts Park. We're told by many its a non starter as it couldn't cope with more people than attend CRFC and the old folks will object to the noise.

So what happens when UB40 play there in a few weeks. Would imagine they are expecting a crowd as big as, if not larger, than we get and it should be a whole lot louder for longer. Doesn't seem to have been any problem putting that on.
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a one of gig in the evening is different to early afternoon every other Saturday.
Would cause issues with access to Earlsdon High st and town so I don't think it would just be residents kicking off.
 

Nick

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #127
chiefdave said:
Just a thought on Butts Park. We're told by many its a non starter as it couldn't cope with more people than attend CRFC and the old folks will object to the noise.

So what happens when UB40 play there in a few weeks. Would imagine they are expecting a crowd as big as, if not larger, than we get and it should be a whole lot louder for longer. Doesn't seem to have been any problem putting that on.
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The old people and noise is a myth, some of them bang out shit loads of noise themselves.
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #128
chiefdave said:
Just a thought on Butts Park. We're told by many its a non starter as it couldn't cope with more people than attend CRFC and the old folks will object to the noise.

So what happens when UB40 play there in a few weeks. Would imagine they are expecting a crowd as big as, if not larger, than we get and it should be a whole lot louder for longer. Doesn't seem to have been any problem putting that on.
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Not only that but UB40 are fucking dreadful.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #129
chiefdave said:
Just a thought on Butts Park. We're told by many its a non starter as it couldn't cope with more people than attend CRFC and the old folks will object to the noise.

So what happens when UB40 play there in a few weeks. Would imagine they are expecting a crowd as big as, if not larger, than we get and it should be a whole lot louder for longer. Doesn't seem to have been any problem putting that on.
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Looking on line it seems to be sold out. Can't find anywhere where it says how many tickets have been sold or were available though.
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #130
skybluetony176 said:
Looking on line it seems to be sold out. Can't find anywhere where it says how many tickets have been sold or were available though.
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Think I read someone they'd sold 4,000 in the first few weeks on sale.
 

Otis

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  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #131
chiefdave said:
Think I read someone they'd sold 4,000 in the first few weeks on sale.
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Got a very large extended family those Campbell brothers.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #132
chiefdave said:
Think I read someone they'd sold 4,000 in the first few weeks on sale.
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If that was the full allocation isn't that the current capacity at the BPA?
 

duffer

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  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #133
skybluetony176 said:
If that was the full allocation isn't that the current capacity at the BPA?
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I'm guessing that they'll be using the pitch for the gig SBT, so it probably doesn't relate to the capacity at the ground for a game. Off the top of my head, I think that's claimed as around 4,000, but having been there this season when there was 2700 against Moseley I think that would be a pretty tight fit!
 

bawtryneal

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  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #134
Even if BPA is a potential go`er long term no way will it be ready for 2018/2019 season with planning issues, environmental studies, discussions with residents and building stands and infrastructure.
CCFC will have to inform the EFL by November/December this year of there concrete plans for the following season.
Over to you Mr Fisher, whats your real plan.
 
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martcov

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  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #135
bawtryneal said:
Even if BPA is a potential go`er long term no way will it be ready for 2018/2019 season with planning issues, environmental studies, discussions with residents and building stands and infrastructure.
CCFC will have to inform the EFL by November/December this year of there concrete plans for the following season.
Over to you Mr Fisher, whats your real plan.
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Probably: Fxxk this for a game of skittles. I'm off to my business interests elsewhere. Joy, you'd better find a new CEO sharpish...
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #136
bawtryneal said:
Even if BPA is a potential go`er long term no way will it be ready for 2018/2019 season with planning issues, environmental studies, discussions with residents and building stands and infrastructure.
CCFC will have to inform the EFL by November/December this year of there concrete plans for the following season.
Over to you Mr Fisher, whats your real plan.
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Nuneaton.
 

bawtryneal

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  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #137
wingy said:
Nuneaton.
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Agree.
Two options, Nuneaton or stay at the Ricoh.
 
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  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #138
wingy said:
Nuneaton.
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FWIW, I'd put Hinckley above there...

But anyway, throwing up some temporary stands would be a (relatively) quick job?
 
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Otis

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  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #139
Going to Hinckley this afternoon. Do you want me to take a sneaky peek?
 
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Steve.B50

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  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #140
Grendel said:
We will be paying seven fold that if we end up in a long term deal at wasps.
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Where is your evidence?
 
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