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Butts Park Arena is new home (9 Viewers)

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Grendel

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #701
Astute said:
Why not ask those that have. There are enough of us. And just about all of us agreed that the plot of land isn't big enough. Not you though.
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I am not a land developer. I didn't think you were either, or Martcov.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #702
martcov said:
It is not possible to build a suitable stadium at the Butts.
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Reckon you could fit a new stadium onto the site. Posted this pic before but something like Millwall have wouldn't be impossible.

 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #703
Nick said:
It says they have identified the site, that's a long way a way from it happening...
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Indeed. And if the pace it took them to identify one site is anything to go by we need a rolling ten year deal at the Ricoh.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #704
Grendel said:
Because it doesn't.
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So Richardson put our club in serious debt by spending money we didn't have. Somewhere between 30m and 60m depending on who says so. And we were losing a minimum 0.5m a month. So he sold our stadium without having another one built to move to. He used the money from HR to keep our club afloat whilst he jumped ship.

So why has our present predicament got nothing to do with Richardson?

And your next false claim that you make is that I accused him of selling off the right to buy back HR. You have pulled this one a few times. Just like on the stadium consultation thread. But when I ask you to show it to everyone you ignore the question or ignore the thread.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #705
chiefdave said:
Reckon you could fit a new stadium onto the site. Posted this pic before but something like Millwall have wouldn't be impossible.

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If only you were able to build something as big right next to present buildings and a railway line. Is it to the same scale?

At least if something like against planning laws CCC could be blamed.

And best of all who thinks it could and would happen.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #706
Has an article been taken down?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #707
Grendel said:
And are you a property developer?
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I have property and I can read and write.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #708
chiefdave said:
Reckon you could fit a new stadium onto the site. Posted this pic before but something like Millwall have wouldn't be impossible.

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Do you see a chance for 365 revenues or car parks? What do the residents think? What about the roads? Can they handle the traffic?
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #709
chiefdave said:
Thought everyone was keen for him to keep his mouth shut? Even if he did say something like that it would just get a response of 'more BS from Fisher'.
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Er no.

There are a few on here that question you if you believe anything he says And that is just because everyone knows that the 3 week comment was a lie.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #710
martcov said:
Do you see a chance for 365 revenues or car parks? What do the residents think? What about the roads? Can they handle the traffic?
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No. But don't let that stop people from saying differently.
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #711
Astute said:
If only you were able to build something as big right next to present buildings and a railway line. Is it to the same scale?

At least if something like against planning laws CCC could be blamed.

And best of all who thinks it could and would happen.
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It is to scale. You can build 4.5 metres away from the track.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #712
Rob S said:
I get the feeling that there has been a change of heart, yes. Also, it'll be interesting to see how things pan out after the JR appeal etc.
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Whenever was it any different, one failed SISU scheme after another, that is what I see.
It does not matter what the current intention is till something concrete happens it is a news paper story, that is all.

PS If CCFC move to the Butts from the Ricoh maybe Cov Utd will move there one day?
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-united-boss-says-club-7042511

The future is very uncertain..
 
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Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #713
chiefdave said:
It is to scale. You can build 4.5 metres away from the track.
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And how far away from the present buildings considering the height of the build?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #714
Astute said:
Grendel reminded us enough times in the past. And I quoted Grendel and another stupid post of his.

Wouldn't be quick to say he is wrong? Why was his story pulled? All I can think is he heard a whisper about Coventry Football club wanting to move at the Butts. He just got the wrong football club. Things like this will happen when trying to get scoops. But then we have people looking for excuses for him when one isn't needed and accusing another journalist of the same when he had waited for what looks like the truth.

Take it on the chin for once Grendel. Nobody can be right all the time. And you are wrong frequently enough to have admitted once at least.
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Which story has been pulled??
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #715
martcov said:
Do you see a chance for 365 revenues or car parks?
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Wasn't really suggesting we do a carbon copy of Millwall's stadium but if you want to read about some of the things they do to raise revenue look here:
http://www.millwallcommercial.co.uk

martcov said:
What do the residents think? What about the roads? Can they handle the traffic?
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I'm sure there will be NIMBY's who complain however the fact they've moved to an existing stadium, where permission for expansion has previously been granted, will count against them.

Being close to rail and bus terminals as well as the ring road and city centre car parks / park and ride I can't see it being any worse than HR was.

Would have thought those were things to be looking at in the unlikely event that this project moves forward and we get some detailed plans and a planning application submitted.
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #716
Astute said:
And how far away from the present buildings considering the height of the build?
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Plenty of football stadiums that are right next to other buildings, even housing. Again though I would have thought that was something to be looked at by architects when drawing up plans and discussed if we ever see said plans and a planning application is submitted.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #717
chiefdave said:
Plenty of football stadiums that are right next to other buildings, even housing. Again though I would have thought that was something to be looked at by architects when drawing up plans and discussed if we ever see said plans and a planning application is submitted.
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But how many new builds are like the one you are pushing?
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #718
chiefdave said:
Plenty of football stadiums that are right next to other buildings, even housing. Again though I would have thought that was something to be looked at by architects when drawing up plans and discussed if we ever see said plans and a planning application is submitted.
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Sure the old ones, but planning rules are stricter these days are they not?
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #719
Nick said:
Which story has been pulled??
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Didn't someone say that the Reid article has gone where he says we want to build on the Butts?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #720
Astute said:
Didn't someone say that the Reid article has gone where he says we want to build on the Butts?
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Did they? Who?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #721
chiefdave said:
Wasn't really suggesting we do a carbon copy of Millwall's stadium but if you want to read about some of the things they do to raise revenue look here:
http://www.millwallcommercial.co.uk



I'm sure there will be NIMBY's who complain however the fact they've moved to an existing stadium, where permission for expansion has previously been granted, will count against them.

Being close to rail and bus terminals as well as the ring road and city centre car parks / park and ride I can't see it being any worse than HR was.

Would have thought those were things to be looking at in the unlikely event that this project moves forward and we get some detailed plans and a planning application submitted.
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And how many years ago was HR built? How many people had a car in them days?
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #722
Nick said:
Did they? Who?
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Is it still there?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #723
chiefdave said:
It is to scale. You can build 4.5 metres away from the track.
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Isn't that a railway banking behind it though? Building 4.5mtrs from the railway lines will surely mean excavating a large section of the embankment. Can you see that being allowed? I would think that the bottom of the embankment is as near as you're going to be allowed to the railway lines.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #724
Astute said:
But how many new builds are like the one you are pushing?
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Not pushing it, just saying its not impossible.

Jack Griffin said:
Sure the old ones, but planning rules are stricter these days are they not?
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Millwall has a gap of 40ft on one side and 6.5ft on another, St Marys is 50ft. Sure there's more but they were the first that sprang to mind. Again though an issue for architects and the planning department.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #725
skybluetony176 said:
Isn't that a railway banking behind it though? Building 4.5mtrs from the railway lines will surely mean excavating a large section of the embankment. Can you see that being allowed? I would think that the bottom of the embankment is as near as you're going to be allowed to the railway lines.
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It's 4.5m from the nearest actual line according to Network Rail's guide for architects and builders.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #726
Astute said:
Is it still there?
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http://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/...-coventry-rugby-clubs-butts-park-arena-11299/
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #727
Jack Griffin said:
Whenever was it any different, one failed SISU scheme after another, that is what I see.
It does not matter what the current intention is till something concrete happens it is a news paper story, that is all.
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That's fair enugh. I would say it's to be encouraged if the club make noises through whatever channels that they would like t work with CCC however.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #728
Astute said:
Didn't someone say that the Reid article has gone where he says we want to build on the Butts?
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Another astute fact
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #729
Grendel said:
Another astute fact
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Fuck off you twat.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #730
chiefdave said:
http://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/...-coventry-rugby-clubs-butts-park-arena-11299/
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Cheers Dave
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #731
Astute said:
Fuck off you twat.
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Excellent response when proved wrong.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #732
Grendel said:
Excellent response when proved wrong.
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Better than wriggling around like some people......
 

italiahorse

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #733
Have I missed anything ?
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #734
When you guys have sorted this one out, can you crack on with the situation in the middle east?
 

Otis

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #735
italiahorse said:
Have I missed anything ?
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Some people maybe think a new stadium can be built at the Butt's when it clearly can't be.
 
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