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Butts Park Arena is new home (6 Viewers)

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Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #666
martcov said:
He didn't know which side his bread was buttered on then... ( not a criticism of him ). It clearly states that the site has been identified by the Sky blues to build a stadium. And Les has revealed it. What more could he have said? If he said "a" site, then you could infer there was more than one. The quote says "the" site. It is the one where a stadium is to be built and has been found by the Sky Blues. The inference being that it is the site that the Sky Blues were looking for. No. You can't wriggle out of that. Les was wrong. I don't know why.
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Because for some sad people all they want to do is blame CCC for all our ills. And now we will get lots more of it after it looks like Reid and others were wrong.

Richardson fucked up. Higgs fucked up. CCC fucked up. SISU fucked up. And there were others that fucked up. But if you listened to some on here only you would think that all of our problems are down to CCC.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #667
Astute said:
Because for some sad people all they want to do is blame CCC for all our ills. And now we will get lots more of it after it looks like Reid and others were wrong.

Richardson fucked up. Higgs fucked up. CCC fucked up. SISU fucked up. And there were others that fucked up. But if you listened to some on here only you would think that all of our problems are down to CCC.
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But who has said 100% on here they think ccfc will build at the butts?

Which article had been pulled?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #668
Astute said:
Because for some sad people all they want to do is blame CCC for all our ills. And now we will get lots more of it after it looks like Reid and others were wrong.

Richardson fucked up. Higgs fucked up. CCC fucked up. SISU fucked up. And there were others that fucked up. But if you listened to some on here only you would think that all of our problems are down to CCC.
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Richardson again. I know it's panto season soon but you are sinking to the depths of skybluetony in your absurdity.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #669
Grendel said:
I said we'd never be moving to the m. Butts. More astute facts. Have you been on a Simon Gilbert training course?
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You had enough goes at me and others for giving reasons why we didn't see it happening or even being true.

Have you been on a Billy Bullshit course?
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #670
Grendel said:
Richardson again. I know it's panto season soon but you are sinking to the depths of skybluetony in your absurdity.
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I know. As you say he is innocent of all charges
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #671
Rob S said:
You know what's funny? Reading stuff like this and knowing what I know compared to what you think you know. I guess if you're over in Germany, opportunities to dig deeper are limited to Internet ferreting, but it's actually not that hard to find out what might be going on if you speak to people and keep your ear to the ground.

Very few people seem to have picked up on the major obstacle to all of this: the council. If the clubs & CCC and other national & EU bodies can come together, something good could be done if there is willingness for the clubs & council to work together. If not then it's a non-starter.
Bear in mind that it wasn't too long ago that the idea of an alleged new stadium in Coventry was itself, a non-starter, due to the position of the owner. Someone has been particularly persuasive maybe?

But, yeah...unless there is any willingness to move this forward, it ain't going to happen. However, it is very possible to build a suitable stadium in the Butts.
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Tim retracting the statement he made to RBC would be a good place to start. Presumably SISU's investors are now willing to work with CCC?
 

Rob S

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #672
martcov said:
RobS has been sucked in before as the mouthpiece of Les and his sources. Nothing against RobS.
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Good Lord, you're on fire tonight

You might consider that I have my own sources. And I'm perfectly capable of mouthing off for myself thank you...as is Les which why there's no point doing it on his behalf.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #673
Rob S said:
Good Lord, you're on fire tonight

You might consider that I have my own sources. And I'm perfectly capable of mouthing off for myself thank you...as is Les which why there's no point doing it on his behalf.
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So other than the Butts what are your sources saying?
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #674
skybluetony176 said:
The headline says "Coventry United FC in talks over Butts Park Arena ground share with Coventry Rugby Club" and this is confirmed by statements from NAMED representatives from both clubs. How much more substance do you want? The statements confirm the headline. It's not even like the article says it's a given that it will happen. Just the opposite in fact. Simon clearly done some homework and found out what obstacles will be in the way. I really can't see why you have a problem with the article. You clearly have a problem with the CT and it seems to have clouded your judgment of the article. Either that or you haven't actually read it.
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But what is the difference now from when CU said they had been considering a move to the Butts earlier in the year? They didn't move there and instead moved to Sphinx but said they would stay in contact with CRFC. From reading the article absolutely nothing has changed since then so why another piece on it.

The only thing I can see is that another paper has had a story saying CCFC have identified the Butts as a potential site.

Does this mean CU's move to the Ricoh previously reported in the Telegraph is off
 

Rob S

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #675
skybluetony176 said:
Tim retracting the statement he made to RBC would be a good place to start. Presumably SISU's investors are now willing to work with CCC?
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I get the feeling that there has been a change of heart, yes. Also, it'll be interesting to see how things pan out after the JR appeal etc.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #676
Grendel said:
It would in the championship.

We will not be going to the butts but it's a laugh anyway.
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Astute said:
You had enough goes at me and others for giving reasons why we didn't see it happening or even being true.

Have you been on a Billy Bullshit course?
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My fourth post on this thread.

Oh dear
 

Rob S

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #677
Astute said:
So other than the Butts what are your sources saying?
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Heh...pick a patch of grass in the Coventry 'area' ;-) Also, that I'm going down the pub so we can pick this up on Sunday lunchtime...
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #678
Rob S said:
Good Lord, you're on fire tonight

You might consider that I have my own sources. And I'm perfectly capable of mouthing off for myself thank you...as is Les which why there's no point doing it on his behalf.
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Threaten Martcov and Tony for a duel on a match day thread. Say you will be blindfolded with a water pistol and allow them rocket launchers.

You'll be fine. You know they will never turn up.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #679
Grendel said:
My fourth post on this thread.

Oh dear
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And that makes up for all of the crap and insults that you come out with?
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #680
Grendel said:
Threaten Martcov and Tony for a duel on a match day thread. Say you will be blindfolded with a water pistol and allow them rocket launchers.

You'll be fine. You know they will never turn up.
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It is an away game so neither will you.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #681
Rob S said:
I get the feeling that there has been a change of heart, yes. Also, it'll be interesting to see how things pan out after the JR appeal etc.
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It's probably a good idea to go public with that. Maybe it's already happened behind the scenes but if there's a statement made to the effect that they are looking at potential sites in Coventry but they need CCC's help as they're willing to now work with them will shift the onus onto CCC and gives the fanbase something to get behind.

I really can't think of a reason why TF wouldn't.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #682
Rob S said:
Heh...pick a patch of grass in the Coventry 'area' ;-) Also, that I'm going down the pub so we can pick this up on Sunday lunchtime...
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The Ricoh?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #683
Astute said:
And that makes up for all of the crap and insults that you come out with?
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What insults? When you keep telling lies what do you expect?

I have been extremely critical of Richardson and have started threads regarding sisu which have been highly critical.

You seem to struggle with fact absorption of the written word.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #684
Which article had been pulled? It would be telling if it had. Somebody help me out
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #685
skybluetony176 said:
I really can't think of a reason why TF wouldn't.
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Thought everyone was keen for him to keep his mouth shut? Even if he did say something like that it would just get a response of 'more BS from Fisher'.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #686
The nonsense about investors not dealing with CCC is absurd and was another glib comment.

Anyone who remotely believed that's how a hedge fund investment portfolio works really is beyond help.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #687
Rob S said:
You know what's funny? Reading stuff like this and knowing what I know compared to what you think you know. I guess if you're over in Germany, opportunities to dig deeper are limited to Internet ferreting, but it's actually not that hard to find out what might be going on if you speak to people and keep your ear to the ground.

Very few people seem to have picked up on the major obstacle to all of this: the council. If the clubs & CCC and other national & EU bodies can come together, something good could be done if there is willingness for the clubs & council to work together. If not then it's a non-starter.

Bear in mind that it wasn't too long ago that the idea of an alleged new stadium in Coventry was itself, a non-starter, due to the position of the owner. Someone has been particularly persuasive maybe?

But, yeah...unless there is any willingness to move this forward, it ain't going to happen. However, it is very possible to build a suitable stadium in the Butts.
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It is not possible to build a suitable stadium at the Butts. It may be possible to build a suitable stadium in Coventry. If you know so much ( I hope you do ), can you tell us if a study has been done comparing renting from Wasps with some revenues against renting a smaller stadium from SISUs Propco?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #688
martcov said:
It is not possible to build a suitable stadium at the Butts. It may be possible to build a suitable stadium in Coventry. If you know so much ( I hope you do ), can you tell us if a study has been done comparing renting from Wasps with some revenues against renting a smaller stadium from SISUs Propco?
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Out of interest when did you last go to the butts and look at the surrounding land?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #689
chiefdave said:
Thought everyone was keen for him to keep his mouth shut? Even if he did say something like that it would just get a response of 'more BS from Fisher'.
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If he started retracting some of the obvious BS he's spouted his customer base might be able to take what he says a little more seriously. Being taken seriously is probably something he should be striving to achieve given his position do you not think?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #690
skybluetony176 said:
If he started retracting some of the obvious BS he's spouted his customer base might be able to take what he says a little more seriously. Being taken seriously is probably something he should be striving to achieve given his position do you not think?
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He does get taken seriously though doesn't he?
 
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martcov

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #691
Nick said:
He could have said Coventry city are building a stadium at the butts, which would have said to me it's a goer.

Surely no journalist or paper should have their bread buttered, but you don't have an issue with those that do?
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He said the Sky Blues ( CCFC ). The site to build a stadium. How hard is that to figure out?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #692
Grendel said:
What insults? When you keep telling lies what do you expect?

I have been extremely critical of Richardson and have started threads regarding sisu which have been highly critical.

You seem to struggle with fact absorption of the written word.
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What a load of bollocks as usual. If you have been highly critical of Richardson why do you make out that our present predicament has nothing to do with him?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #693
martcov said:
He said the Sky Blues ( CCFC ). The site to build a stadium. How hard is that to figure out?
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It says they have identified the site, that's a long way a way from it happening...
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #694
Astute said:
What a load of bollocks as usual. If you have been highly critical of Richardson why do you make out that our present predicament has nothing to do with him?
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Because it doesn't.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #695
Grendel said:
The nonsense about investors not dealing with CCC is absurd and was another glib comment.

Anyone who remotely believed that's how a hedge fund investment portfolio works really is beyond help.
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Would you say that it was both unprofessional and irresponsible to make such a glib statement to officials from a local authority who you are trying to sell yourself to?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #696
Grendel said:
Out of interest when did you last go to the butts and look at the surrounding land?
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Why not ask those that have. There are enough of us. And just about all of us agreed that the plot of land isn't big enough. Not you though.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #697
Grendel said:
Out of interest when did you last go to the butts and look at the surrounding land?
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Oktober.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #698
martcov said:
Oktober.
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And are you a property developer?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #699
Nick said:
He does get taken seriously though doesn't he?
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RFC doesn't count.
 
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martcov

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  • Dec 11, 2015
  • #700
Nick said:
It says they have identified the site, that's a long way a way from it happening...
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So, did Les Reid explain it as such, or did he reveal "the site to build a stadium"?
 
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