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usskyblue

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #701
Sick Boy said:
Just bin him off.
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Sick Boy said:
It’s the usual attempts to shut down debate on here.
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Top debating m8
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #702
usskyblue said:
Top debating m8
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Says the guy banging on about an imaginary 'campaign'.
 

usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #703
Sick Boy said:
Says the guy banging on about an imaginary 'campaign'.
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Witch hunt then ?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #704
Irish Sky Blue said:
Evidence that he is having a negative effect here? If that's not the case why not trust Robins and give him a chance?
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Does that mean you don't trust Robins because Bright isn't being given a chance then?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #705
usskyblue said:
Top debating m8
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You do not want a debate and do not want it discussed for some odd reason
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #706
Irish Sky Blue said:
Where did he say that?
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Not engaging in the debate then?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #707
Irish Sky Blue said:
Not engaging in the debate then?
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The OP clearly understood the joke.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #708
better days said:
We have an U23 game at QPR tomorrow
Be interesting to see if Bright features
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From the same update Pask is at the Higgs now too. IMO he’s a more reliable option than Da Costa but Robins obviously doesn’t rate him
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #709
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Bright and Jones . If evere there were two opposites in character you have it right there
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I think Robins has gambled on the much higher professionalism in the group getting Bright to up his own levels. Like a trouble maker in school being put in a high achieving group
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #710
SlowerThanPlatt said:
From the same update Pask is at the Higgs now too. IMO he’s a more reliable option than Da Costa but Robins obviously doesn’t rate him
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Think better days said may be as much that pask wants first team football and can’t get it here
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #711
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think Robins has gambled on the much higher professionalism in the group getting Bright to up his own levels. Like a trouble maker in school being put in a high achieving group
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Often works too
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #712
Sky Blue Pete said:
Often works too
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Does it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #713
Sky Blue Pete said:
Often works too
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In schools yes it can, in football I don’t know many examples.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #714
Sky Blue Pete said:
Think better days said may be as much that pask wants first team football and can’t get it here
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Yes but I don’t think alienating players from the first team training ground and train with the kids is going to persuade them to move on quicker
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #715
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In schools yes it can, in football I don’t know many examples.
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Strange because when they did that at my school it often pissed off the other students and the bad student was soon moved.
 

better days

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #716
SlowerThanPlatt said:
From the same update Pask is at the Higgs now too. IMO he’s a more reliable option than Da Costa but Robins obviously doesn’t rate him
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Really don't know what's happening with Pask
He's miles better than Dacosta
Edit I know he wanted game time so maybe he asked for a move and couldn't find a taker
 
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #717
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think Robins has gambled on the much higher professionalism in the group getting Bright to up his own levels. Like a trouble maker in school being put in a high achieving group
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An interesting thought... is Bright actually around the first team much though?
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #718
COV said:
An interesting thought... is Bright actually around the first team much though?
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I haven’t seen him on any first team training photos for ages
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #719
Nick said:
Does that mean you don't trust Robins because Bright isn't being given a chance then?
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Why would I think that?
As far as I can see Bright hasn't reached a level where he could be considered. I saw him play against Mansfield, Nuneaton and Northampton. In none of those games did he look any where near the level required to challenge for a place.
The point I am making is that some people seem to be actively hoping he doesn't make it. Why?
Surely we would all hope he gets to a level where he can challenge for a first team place and make a difference to the team?

I would say that against Mansfield ( yes it was only Mansfield and it was only a friendly) he produced a couple of moments of magic and had the away end on their feet in what otherwise, from a City point of view, was a fairly drab game.

If, and at the moment it appears to be a big if, he can do it in the Championship, why not give him the time to do it, particularly as it appears he is not having a negative affect around the team?
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #720
Irish Sky Blue said:
Evidence that he is having a negative effect here? If that's not the case why not trust Robins and give him a chance?
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It's not about trusting Robins. He's on a tight budget and has to try and uncover talent on the cheap.
It's Bright I don't trust. If he messes up his own career then fine, I just don't want there to be any collateral damage.
 
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jordan210

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #721
Wana know who I feel sorry for in all of this. Polar Logistics. That was a shite pick for sponsorship !
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #722
Irish Sky Blue said:
Why would I think that?
As far as I can see Bright hasn't reached a level where he could be considered. I saw him play against Mansfield, Nuneaton and Northampton. In none of those games did he look any where near the level required to challenge for a place.
The point I am making is that some people seem to be actively hoping he doesn't make it. Why?
Surely we would all hope he gets to a level where he can challenge for a first team place and make a difference to the team?

I would say that against Mansfield ( yes it was only Mansfield and it was only a friendly) he produced a couple of moments of magic and had the away end on their feet in what otherwise, from a City point of view, was a fairly drab game.

If, and at the moment it appears to be a big if, he can do it in the Championship, why not give him the time to do it, particularly as it appears he is not having a negative affect around the team?
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Don’t want Bright to fail, pissed off we have used part of our tight budget on a player who can’t be arsed to get up to standard
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #723
clint van damme said:
It's not about trusting Robins. He's on a tight budget and has to try and uncover talent on the cheap.
It's Bright I don't trust. If he messes up his own career then fine, I just don't want there to be any collateral damage.
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which is very understandable, but what kind of collateral damage- its not as if anything the guy has done has made a jot of difference so far, the spirit among the team is obviously, visibly excellent.

Just all seems a bit disproportionate thats all- people claiming that someone wanted to bin Robins to accommodate Bright etc, when they didn't say that at all
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #724
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In schools yes it can, in football I don’t know many examples.
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This and no idea in football
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #725
Ccfcisparks said:
Don’t want Bright to fail, pissed off we have used part of our tight budget on a player who can’t be arsed to get up to standard
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Some work some dont
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #726
COV said:
which is very understandable, but what kind of collateral damage- its not as if anything the guy has done has made a jot of difference so far, the spirit among the team is obviously, visibly excellent.

Just all seems a bit disproportionate thats all
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But like I've said, one bad apple can change that, I've seen it happen. That doesn't mean it will in this case but if he's not going to even get a chance in the u23s why even risk having him around?
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #727
Sky Blue Pete said:
Some work some dont
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Some work because they don’t have the talent. Bright just can’t be arsed.
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #728
clint van damme said:
But like I've said, one bad apple can change that, I've seen it happen. That doesn't mean it will in this case but if he's not going to even get a chance in the u23s why even risk having him around?
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without wishing to fall back on the old chestnut its impossible not to do so in this case- MR is closest to it and he obviously thinks its worth persevering with, and thats good enough for me.

If he could somehow get himself fit & mentally ready then come Dec/ Jan with potential injuries & suspensions mounting up, it would be brilliant to have someone like him to introduce.

To be honest there have been so many rumours about what he's been up to I have no idea whats true and what isn't. One thing I'm pretty sure of from what I've read & heard- if Robins got the first inkling that he was disrupting the team he wouldn't be allowed anywhere near of any of them
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #729
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yes but I don’t think alienating players from the first team training ground and train with the kids is going to persuade them to move on quicker
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Why not, the feeling of not being wanted is horrible. Especially when your professional playing career is only about 15 years on average why would you waste a year of that rotting in under 23s with no development.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #730
COV said:
without wishing to fall back on the old chestnut its impossible not to do so in this case- MR is closest to it and he obviously thinks its worth persevering with, and thats good enough for me.

If he could somehow get himself fit & mentally ready then come Dec/ Jan with potential injuries & suspensions mounting up, it would be brilliant to have someone like him to introduce.

To be honest there have been so many rumours about what he's been up to I have no idea whats true and what isn't. One thing I'm pretty sure of from what I've read & heard- if Robins got the first inkling that he was disrupting the team he wouldn't be allowed anywhere near of any of them
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But he's not even getting in the u23s. How can a profeesional player let his fitness go that much?
Kanes not played first team for months but managed to last 90 minutes on Saturday.

If Bright actually manages to play some football at any level I might be a bit less wary of his motivation for being at the club.

As for the rumours, yes probably many are untrue.
But As keiron Dyer once said, half the stories about him were untrue, but people made them up because the other half weren't.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #731
Londonccfcfan said:
Why not, the feeling of not being wanted is horrible. Especially when your professional playing career is only about 15 years on average why would you waste a year of that rotting in under 23s with no development.
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Well Jobello and Hilssner are still here despite having that treatment
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #732
clint van damme said:
But he's not even getting in the u23s. How can a profeesional player let his fitness go that much?
Kanes not played first team for months but managed to last 90 minutes on Saturday.

If Bright actually manages to play some football at any level I might be a bit less wary of his motivation for being at the club.

As for the rumours, yes probably many are untrue.
But As keiron Dyer once said, half the stories about him were untrue, but people made them up because the other half weren't.
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If he doesnt make it here then as far as im concerned his proffesional career at any decent level top 4 tiers is finished.

Its last chance saloon.
 
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COV

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  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #733
clint van damme said:
But he's not even getting in the u23s. How can a profeesional player let his fitness go that much?
Kanes not played first team for months but managed to last 90 minutes on Saturday.

If Bright actually manages to play some football at any level I might be a bit less wary of his motivation for being at the club.

As for the rumours, yes probably many are untrue.
But As keiron Dyer once said, half the stories about him were untrue, but people made them up because the other half weren't.
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Motivation is the bottom line- if it was me I'd be looking at the table and thinking "I could potentially be a premiership player next year", not sure what more incentive there is really.
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #734
COV said:
Motivation is the bottom line- if it was me I'd be looking at the table and thinking "I could potentially be a premiership player next year", not sure what more incentive there is really.
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Money for Bright.
 

SleepyGinger

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #735
If he can’t look at what we’re doing at the moment and do everything in his power to get into this team and be part of this then I don’t think he ever will.
 
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