Transfer Rumour Brandon Thomas-Asante (2 Viewers)

[skybluecam]

I'd just rather see a hungry player who has some experience (and goals) at this level and can actually compete and push Simms for the shirt. That didn't happen last season and as a result we had no choice to persist with Simms even when it was obvious to a blind man that he needed resting. (2 goals in his first 25 games for example)
Imagine if we'd had an alternative during that time!
I think BTA is an ideal signing (if it happens)

If we are serious about challenging this season we haven't time to develop another young kid.

What? Simms was rested plenty, very rarely started more than 2 games in a row first half of the season.

He's up to speed and firing now and we have Wright who can play centrally too.

I mean if Saddle is right and he won't cost more than 2m then he'd be a good signing. I just don't see WBA letting him go for that little.

 

[skybluecam]

Simms scored 1goal in 12 games for Everton

And 2 in his first 25 games for us.
So what's your point?

What's yours? BTA has never set foot in the prem and you've cherry picked stats from Simms' worst run of form?

 

[Saddlebrains]

I don't know if it is Thomas Asante

But I do know full well we will not be paying more than a couple of Million for a Godden replacement and that's a JH Promise

 

[PVA]

I can see us playing two strikers at times this season so we need three good options there, it's not like we're spending a couple of mil on a backup keeper or left back or something.

 

[skybluecam]

I don't know if it is Thomas Asante

But I do know full well we will not be paying more than a couple of Million for a Godden replacement and that's a JH Promise

It’s obviously not him then

 

[Balli001]

It’s obviously not him then

So if it is him do you confirm you will stop moaning about hypothetical transfer fees then?

 

[skybluecam]

So if it is him do you confirm you will stop moaning about hypothetical transfer fees then?

Yes, if we sign him for less than 2m it's a good signing.

 

[fatso]

What's yours? BTA has never set foot in the prem and you've cherry picked stats from Simms' worst run of form?

My point is (quite obviously) that any striker can have a lean spell, but MR has a habit of improving them and playing to their strengths. (Mark Mcnulty for example)

I'm sure the rest of the forum understood.

 

[fatso]

What? Simms was rested plenty, very rarely started more than 2 games in a row first half of the season.

He was rested for a player who's legs had gone (Godden)
And a player who's best position was off the left of midfield (Wright)

Mate, your having a mare today, do try and keep up.

 

[fatso]

Why can't the young kid we develop be Obikwu? He did well for Grimsby on loan and has scope for further improvement

He defo has scope to improve and be a really good option, but if we want promotion this season is he ready should Simms get a bad injury?

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

Yes, if we sign him for less than 2m it's a good signing.

I agree, on the cheap he’s a great pick up, but doesn’t really fit the model if we’re buying for £4/5/6 mil.

 

[skybluecam]

My point is (quite obviously) that any striker can have a lean spell, but MR has a habit of improving them and playing to their strengths. (Mark Mcnulty for example)

I'm sure the rest of the forum understood.

Thomas Asante isn't having a lean "spell" 11 goals is his best ever league return. He only managed double figures once in 4 seasons of League Two football.

He was rested for a player who's legs had gone (Godden)
And a player who's best position was off the left of midfield (Wright)

Mate, your having a mare today, do try and keep up.

Doesn't matter who he was rested for though does it? The point is of those 25 games many were cameo appearances of 20 mins or less, so saying he "only scored 2 in 25" is a tad misleading. Also completely ignores his excellent second half of the season.

 

[skybluecam]

I agree, on the cheap he’s a great pick up, but doesn’t really fit the model if we’re buying for £4/5/6 mil.

Exactly. And I just can't see them selling for that little.

 

[edgy]

I agree, on the cheap he’s a great pick up, but doesn’t really fit the model if we’re buying for £4/5/6 mil.

The model is changing. We brought a certain 25 year old (too old for the model??) last summer for £7m who is now worth twice that.

Extreme example, but just saying.

 

[KersleyDigs]

He's rapid. Really good option too push teams back when they play a high line.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

He defo has scope to improve and be a really good option, but if we want promotion this season is he ready should Simms get a bad injury?

Wasn't suggesting that , was saying we could have Thomas-Asante as back up and Obikwu as our "project " that some are obsessed with

 

[fatso]

Wasn't suggesting that , was saying we could have Thomas-Asante as back up and Obikwu as our "project " that some are obsessed with

Well if we do sign BTA (big if imo) that's exactly what we will have.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

Well if we do sign BTA (big if imo) that's exactly what we will have.

And would be good enough IMO

 

[fatso]

Thomas Asante isn't having a lean "spell" 11 goals is his best ever league return. He only managed double figures once in 4 seasons of League Two football.

So by your own figures he's a player who's improving all the time, and still at an age to continue that improvement.

Also, how many championship goals had Gyokeres scored when we brought him here?

Imo, your getting far too hung up on numbers.
It's clear that we are scouting players with the traits and talents that fit our style of play not some other teams. Trust that MR will play to the strengths of whoever we bring in.

 

[fatso]

And would be good enough IMO

I agree. I'd be very pleased if it happens.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

As ever, price is key. If (if) he were £5mil I'd agree entirely with you, but I'd be hopeful he wouldn't be.

What I'd like us to do while we're at it is look around for the EMCs and BTAs that were signed by Peterborough and West Brom - get the £300k signings in as well. It's fair to say though we're currently restricted in having to play one up front if anything happens to Wright or Simms, which makes us quite inflexible in terms of tactics. Currently we've zero competiton / cover, and if you think at the back we can pick from four established Championship level defenders, in midfield we have half a dozen of them... we do need a striker.

It’s easier said than done though, EMC’s club before Peterborough was Barnet in non-league. We’re just not likely to pick these players up and give them the game time to develop into multi-million pound players.

Two examples from our recent history; Allasani and Jodi Jones (post-injury).

 

[Calista]

As has been discussed recently, CCFC now have in place a very professional operation, and a lot of sophisticated evaluation of players that will enhance the squad and fit into our ways of working. Recruitment last season was mostly excellent, so they have already proved they know what they are doing.

So why are some people on here worrying themselves about rumoured targets, trying to tell the club what the 'model' is, and advising on detailed player valuations? I'm loving what is happening and I've got a lot of trust that there will be good reasons behind every new signing. If they get one or two wrong it won't be because they didn't take enough notice of the advice on SBT.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Formal thread as I haven't seen one. Contrary to a lot of posters I would like to see this happen. Very good on his day with bags of pace and a great bloke personality wise. Worked his way up the divisions shows character and a proper mentality we like to see in our players. Really want this guy in and before preseason hopefully.

It's just not going to happen, move on.

 

[Evo1883]

What? Simms was rested plenty, very rarely started more than 2 games in a row first half of the season.

He's up to speed and firing now and we have Wright who can play centrally too.

I mean if Saddle is right and he won't cost more than 2m then he'd be a good signing. I just don't see WBA letting him go for that little.

Simms played 9 minutes less than thomas asante and scored 2 more goals last season , it's hardly much better

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Simms played 9 minutes less than thomas asante and scored 2 more goals last season , it's hardly much better

According to transfermarkt hes also played nearly 60 games in his career on either wing.

It gives us cover for simms, and cover on both wings. Would be a shrewd signing.

 

[Evo1883]

To be fair , we don't even know if this player is of interest but he'd be a good squad option .. and an upgrade on godden which is what we want

 

[Chris1987]

As has been discussed recently, CCFC now have in place a very professional operation, and a lot of sophisticated evaluation of players that will enhance the squad and fit into our ways of working. Recruitment last season was mostly excellent, so they have already proved they know what they are doing.

So why are some people on here worrying themselves about rumoured targets, trying to tell the club what the 'model' is, and advising on detailed player valuations? I'm loving what is happening and I've got a lot of trust that there will be good reasons behind every new signing. If they get one or two wrong it won't be because they didn't take enough notice of the advice on SBT.

There now appears to be an obsession with some about only signing players who "fit the model". The model appears to be discounting anyone over the age of 23. What can possibly go wrong ?

 

[skybluecam]

As has been discussed recently, CCFC now have in place a very professional operation, and a lot of sophisticated evaluation of players that will enhance the squad and fit into our ways of working. Recruitment last season was mostly excellent, so they have already proved they know what they are doing.

So why are some people on here worrying themselves about rumoured targets, trying to tell the club what the 'model' is, and advising on detailed player valuations? I'm loving what is happening and I've got a lot of trust that there will be good reasons behind every new signing. If they get one or two wrong it won't be because they didn't take enough notice of the advice on SBT.

If I was trying to tell the club what to do I'd email them or rock up at Ryton, not post on a forum.

It's a discussion about a potential signing and I'm bored as fuck at work. It really isn't that deep lol

 

[Great_Expectations]

If we secure Rudoni and BTA, two proven Championship players, both with room to improve, for a combined ~£5.5/6m, that’s incredible business.

 

[Calista]

It's a discussion about a potential signing and I'm bored as fuck at work. It really isn't that deep lol

Fair comment. Some people are genuinely really worried though. Their worrying worries me

 

[eedyut]

Honestly, why do people care that some with childlike expectations and demands are dissppointed or "concerned" about potential signings? They obvously have no clout, so just let them be frustrated by their own impatience and petulance. They hardly back up their grizzling with anything that's tangible. Feedback from a few Albion mates suggest in the right team set-up, he'd be dangerous and more than capable at this level. What is realistically expected - 3/4 strikers all proven to be worth 20 goals a season at this level? I think anyone would appreciate that is pretty much unheard of, as is having just two, which we (almost) do. Not even close to being a strong rumour but BTA is definitey not a panic or make up the numbers player.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Honestly, why do people care that some with childlike expectations and demands are dissppointed or "concerned" about potential signings? They obvously have no clout, so just let them be frustrated by their own impatience and petulance. They hardly back up their grizzling with anything that's tangible. Feedback from a few Albion mates suggest in the right team set-up, he'd be dangerous and more than capable at this level. What is realistically expected - 3/4 strikers all proven to be worth 20 goals a season at this level? I think anyone would appreciate that is pretty much unheard of, as is having just two, which we (almost) do. Not even close to being a strong rumour but BTA is definitey not a panic or make up the numbers player.

Whatever happened to trusting the manager that’s took us from the depths of L2 to promotion chasing Championship team?

Every summer people moan about players who’ll become their favourite players. The lesson is, year in and year out, is to have patience and the players usually come good.

 

[mark82]

Its a rumour based on a rumour of someone that matches his age, nationality and something else.

His initials.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Never heard of him.

 

[skybluecam]

Never heard of him.

Thanks for your input