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LastGarrison

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #106
fatso said:
Well that was boringly predictable!
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Cheer up.

You're watching one of the best of all time.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #107
Usyk very likeable
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #108
Why do they make it sound like he wouldn’t be this good if Ukraine wasn’t at war?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #109
Evo1883 said:
Usyk very likeable
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Rarely cheer on a non Brit fighter but love him. Quality man and fighter
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #110
LastGarrison said:
Cheer up.

You're watching one of the best of all time.
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Yes, but against a very average opponent.

2 years after their first fight and Usyk was even more convincing
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #111
fatso said:
Yes, but against a very average opponent.
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One with power though, stuffed Fury and AJ twice as well. All far bigger men. Hope he retires as he’s done all he needs to do
 
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Samueljames1991

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #112
Usyk is a joke definitely in the heavyweight GOAT discussion now
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #113
CCFCSteve said:
One with power though, stuffed Fury and AJ twice as well. All far bigger men. Hope he retires as he’s done all he needs to do
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Usyk took Dubois jab out of the game by his footwork, he got Dubois over extending and picked him off with counter punches.

That was a master class in tactics. Not many people will appreciate just how good a game plan Usyk had.

Fury troubled Usyk with the uppercut, but Dubois never tried one, we know hes vulnerable to the body, but Dubois only tried one of note
 
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rob9872

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #114
Levels.
 
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Samueljames1991

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #115
fatso said:
Usyk took Dubois jab out of the game by his footwork, he got Dubois over extending and picked him off with counter punches.

That was a master class in tactics. Not many people will appreciate just how good a game plan Usyk had.
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Levels above anyone else in this era.

Best pure boxer since Mayweather
 
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tisza

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #116
I do like that the World Heavyweight champion is a proper boxer not some one punch specialist like wilder was.
Dubois picks up a paycheck but was never going to win.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #117
Usyk v holyfield would have been a good fight , I think Lewis would beat him though
 
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Samueljames1991

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #118
Evo1883 said:
Usyk v holyfield would have been a good fight , I think Lewis would beat him though
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Would of been some fight that
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #119
fatso said:
Usyk took Dubois jab out of the game by his footwork, he got Dubois over extending and picked him off with counter punches.

That was a master class in tactics. Not many people will appreciate just how good a game plan Usyk had.

Fury troubled Usyk with the uppercut, but Dubois never tried one, we know hes vulnerable to the body, but Dubois only tried one of note
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Dubois had to go for the knock out but is limited. Usky battered fury around the ring even though fury was 3-4 stone and half a foot taller and for his height an amazing mover, Usyk head and shoulders HW of his generation. Dubois has got power and hurt Usyk to the body first fight, if he could catch him could hurt him, but Usyk is just too good

What he’s done when considering his natural size is amazing
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 19, 2025
  • #120
CCFCSteve said:
Dubois had to go for the knock out but is limited. Usky battered fury around the ring even though fury was 3-4 stone and half a foot taller and for his height an amazing mover, Usyk head and shoulders HW of his generation. Dubois has got power and hurt Usyk to the body first fight, if he could catch him could hurt him, but Usyk is just too good

What he’s done when considering his natural size is amazing
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I'd like to see Usyk vs Parker next.

Parker has earnt the right for a crack at the undisputed title.

But if Usyk were to retire he'd go down as one of the best of all time. And certainly the best since Mike Tyson.
 

rob9872

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  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #121
Tyson massively overrated. Lewis was the best in that era easily.
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #122
rob9872 said:
Tyson massively overrated. Lewis was the best in that era easily.
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Mike tyson was and still is the best heavyweight since Ali.

Before his imprisonment he was untouchable. Before he started fighting purely for money he was unbeatable.
In his prime he'd of smashed Holyfield and Lewis out of the ring.

Prison cost him over 4 years out of the ring, and without Cus D'amoto he was never the same animal.

He is undoubtedly the most underrated heavyweight of all time. Genuinely the GOAT. His footwork and upper body movement has never been matched since.
He had genuine knockout power in both fists, as well as being a master of the dark arts.

As good as Usyk is today, he wouldn't of got near Tyson. The fact that Usyk can step up from Cruiserweight to be undisputed heavyweight shows just how average the division is today.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #123
No doubt on the winner thought Usyk looks a bit clumsy at times but then I haven’t stood next to
Him
 

ovduk78

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  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #124
Sick Boy said:
Dazn is genuinely awful. Count yourself lucky it’s not ppv with them.
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Just seen some highlights, commentator was awful, sounded like he was shouting in a phone box
 

rob9872

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  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #125
fatso said:
Mike tyson was and still is the best heavyweight since Ali.

Before his imprisonment he was untouchable. Before he started fighting purely for money he was unbeatable.
In his prime he'd of smashed Holyfield and Lewis out of the ring.

Prison cost him over 4 years out of the ring, and without Cus D'amoto he was never the same animal.

He is undoubtedly the most underrated heavyweight of all time. Genuinely the GOAT. His footwork and upper body movement has never been matched since.
He had genuine knockout power in both fists, as well as being a master of the dark arts.

As good as Usyk is today, he wouldn't of got near Tyson. The fact that Usyk can step up from Cruiserweight to be undisputed heavyweight shows just how average the division is today.
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Sorry mate, still disagree. He was awesome when he burst o the scene and as a young inexperienced fighter, destroyed everything in his path, but when he reached elite level, he didn't have the skill or knowhow to get the results. A smart fighter like Usyk or Lewis, would have too much for him imo. Tyson was a warrior and the best at what he did, but for pure boxing craft I think there's an argument he's not even in the top 10, although as with football or anything else its difficult to compare eras.
 
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