SleepyGinger
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Yeah Morgan Rogers for them was impressive, maybe one we would of been in for in the summer if we knew we’d end up playing 433
Yeah Morgan Rogers for them was impressive, maybe one we would of been in for in the summer if we knew we’d end up playing 433Yeah it wasn't just the passing, it was the ball carrying and surging from deep that we miss. Middlesbrough had it in the first half, breaking through our press and then driving at the back 4 looking for those passes.
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Yeah.. man I miss watching him! Really hope there is some gem out there with a similar play style we can unearth. I'm stumped with my limited knowledge of UK based players. Just imagine a Hamer 2.0 in this team we'd be so good to watchYeah it wasn't just the passing, it was the ball carrying and surging from deep that we miss. Middlesbrough had it in the first half, breaking through our press and then driving at the back 4 looking for those passes.
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We seem to have accepted that Wright will miss a sitter a game and that it's part of the Haji package! He seems to beat himself up less when he misses one now too.A few real harsh scores for Simms He was good bar his miss. Did very well for the goal. Hadji made the correct decision just as Simms did last match. Great they are both getting in the right places. Bodes well for me, feels like he is at the same point Wright was before it all clicked.
Really hope he makes people look stupid
We seem to have accepted that Wright will miss a sitter a game and that it's part of the Haji package! He seems to beat himself up less when he misses one now too.
We just need to accept that Simms will also miss good chances and not get on his back about it. Like all our players, if they were better, they'd be in the premier league.
Will you still be saying that if Sakamoto has what is now his normal game, rips them apart and scores?We seem to have accepted that Wright will miss a sitter a game and that it's part of the Haji package! He seems to beat himself up less when he misses one now too.
We just need to accept that Simms will also miss good chances and not get on his back about it. Like all our players, if they were better, they'd be in the premier league.
League 1 standard by some of the shrewdies on here . Fear he will never get a fair crack by some of our fan base , pathetic the comments he receivesApparently Josh Eccles is our best 'key passer', ranking 15th in the Championship. Counterintuitively, Jay Dasilva is our next highest (17th in Championship)!
To be fair, most of that will come from taking corners. Corner takers always have higher key passes stats. He's taken over 100 corners this season.Apparently Josh Eccles is our best 'key passer', ranking 15th in the Championship. Counterintuitively, Jay Dasilva is our next highest (17th in Championship)!
Simms has gone from the old system of holding the line to now being up front with Simms. Something seems to be going to plan with the way they celebrate the other one taking their goalsEasy to forget Simms is still 22 (23 in a few days) he has loads of time to improve and bags of experience at our level and higher. He'll come good
League 1 standard by some of the shrewdies on here . Fear he will never get a fair crack by some of our fan base , pathetic the comments he receives
I've not rubbished them, just added context.I was just about to post that a spokesperson from the SDF (Sheaf Defence Forces) would be along shortly to rubbish the stats, but with true predictability, it's already happened...
Which website is that from?Key passes per game when you exclude set pieces:
Sheaf 2.70
Eccles 1.86
Top 5 FWIW:
Ayari(!) 4.10
Palmer 3.17
O'Hare 3.15
Dasilva 2.97
Sakamoto 2.80
I have excluded Hamer, as he was top with 6.25 but from 60 odd minutes played or whatever it was.
Which website is that from?
Simms has gone from the old system of holding the line to now being up front with Simms. Something seems to be going to plan with the way they celebrate the other one taking their goals
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I used the SCA (shot creating actions) stats for this.
And a couple of them have got into the box tooTo be fair, most of that will come from taking corners. Corner takers always have higher key passes stats. He's taken over 100 corners this season.
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That isn't the same metric as what is being talked about.
The formula also isn't correct as the per 90 weighting.
It's a pass that leads to a shot. That shot could come from anyway and be off any quality. The header from the defender here would be classes as a key passWhat is a “key pass”?
Key passes were being talked about, which is defined as:
KP -- Key Passes
Passes that directly lead to a shot (assisted shots)
I used shot creating actions, as it's possible to remove set pieces from the numbers
SCA (Live-ball Pass)
Completed live-ball passes that lead to a shot attempt
It definitely is, check your maths!
I'm not trying to discredit Eccles, I've been one of his biggest supporters on here for years. Nor am I trying to discredit Sheaf. I was just replying to the posts about key passes with and without set pieces.
Thomas by a mileThomas was clearly behind McNally when we signed him. Thomas loaned to L1, McNally to the Championship. Burnley would not sell us McNally only loan him. They clearly considered McNally the better player. Think McNally will come good at Stoke with the new manager but wonder which player will turn out the best?
It's different, look at the terminology. Your selection also includes fouls drawn and defensive actions which make up the total SCA formula. The maths also isn't right, the fractions from the total split into per 90 don't add up at all.
There's also multiple stats including through balls and GCA (completed live ball passes that lead to goals) that Eccles sits top of, which unsurprisingly hasn't made it into this conversation.
You say you are not discrediting Eccles, but that's exactly what you are doing. Someone posts a positive stat about him, and the same group of people come in and try to pull it apart, bending the stats as much as possible in the process to achieve said goal. If it was Sheaf in those stats, the response would be a lot different, as would the percentage of Kleenex tissues used in and around Coventry area.
Watch our 3rd goal and see who threaded the ball through for O'Hare, pass of the match for meWe miss a player that can make those decisive through passes which they were doing first half, cutting us open, Eccles slows us down too much at times, even when he has time on the ball his first instinct is to play backwards that said it was a fantastic TEAM performance from the lads and Saka just a whisker away from getting a hatrick and the ball over the top to Hadji...wow .....e i ei ei eio up the table and all that been a great festive seasonwatch us fuck it up against Oxford
you've finally lost it.
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I was pointing out facts. That is all. Not putting Eccles down. If you take corners you will get more opportunities for key passes, especially if you're playing as a CDM. FACT.You're obsessed with putting Eccles down at any opportunity, and refuse to acknowledge any time Sheaf makes a mistake. Swansea was another glowing insight to that, as was your leap to jump in here when someone posted something nice about Eccles.
A one liner about losing it and a a row of laughing emojis doesn't do much for that unfortunately.
It's different, look at the terminology. Your selection also includes fouls drawn and defensive actions which make up the total SCA formula. The maths also isn't right, the fractions from the total split into per 90 don't add up at all.
Thomas has looked a somewhat better footballer than McNally right from the start IMO. McNally has a longer neck though.Thomas was clearly behind McNally when we signed him. Thomas loaned to L1, McNally to the Championship. Burnley would not sell us McNally only loan him. They clearly considered McNally the better player. Think McNally will come good at Stoke with the new manager but wonder which player will turn out the best?
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